the definition of homosexual sex

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Another age old question---Why do married men like shemales? Yeah, she has tits and a cock. The married man lets her FUCK him, but insists "It's not a gay act. She's a chick with a dick! She's a chick, I'm straight!" Motherfucker, you took a cock up the ass----THAT'S GAY SEX!...Then there's the men who are married, straight, and/or totally into pussy----BUT THEY TAKE A COCK UP THE ASS!---YOU'RE FUCKIN' GAY IF YOU TAKE A COCK UP YOUR ASS...THAT'S A GAY SEX ACT! I'm 99% gay, but I don't take it up the ass. It's strange when I think about it---I'm the gay one, he's the straight one....and I'm fuckin' HIM up the ass! Shit, I forgot my point here...Oh, here it is---IT'S ONLY SEX! Don't put a label on your sexuality. If you do, that limits your fun, pleasure, and opportunities. That 1% of me that's straight, that part could STILL eat pussy:redface:
If a married man gets pegged by his lawfully wedded wife, is that gay? Dan savage says not. (btw it's definitely sex)
 

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I've never really considered non-penetrative sex as "sex" but I also agree with the consensus in this thread that any orgasmic acts count as sex. Kinda seems like penetrative sex should have a word that refers to it specifically. Besides "fucking" at least, lol.
 

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I knew this thread would do well because there simply is not one definite answer. From what I gather, all "sexual acts" are still considered sex in some way or another. But alas the question still remains- is it still sex if it does NOT lead to an orgasm?
 

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Sex = Anything Considered Sexual In Nature Between 2 [Or More] Persons.
Sexual Intercourse = The Sexual Act of Penetration.
Homosexual Sex = 'Refer to [Sex]' + Of The Same Sex.
Heterosexual Sex = 'Refer to [Sex]' + Of The Opposite Sex.

Just my 2 cents worth. Easy concept.
 

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I don't get this 'lead to orgasm' crap. All sex acts lead there. Some just get there sooner than others...Sex is Sex. Why try to find a loophole in it? Are you 12 trying to convince your parents you did nothing wrong? I mean, come on already!

rawr
 

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I don't get this 'lead to orgasm' crap. All sex acts lead there. Some just get there sooner than others...Sex is Sex. Why try to find a loophole in it? Are you 12 trying to convince your parents you did nothing wrong? I mean, come on already!

rawr

is this directed toward me? I really have nothing to prove, a genuine inquiry. Some in here really only think it is considered sex if an orgasm is produced from the act. I don't personally find this to be true.
 

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Sex = Anything Considered Sexual In Nature Between 2 [Or More] Persons.
Sexual Intercourse = The Sexual Act of Penetration.
Homosexual Sex = 'Refer to [Sex]' + Of The Same Sex.
Heterosexual Sex = 'Refer to [Sex]' + Of The Opposite Sex.

Just my 2 cents worth. Easy concept.

this is explained very well and simply. thank you. everyone take note lol :smile:
 

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is this directed toward me? I really have nothing to prove, a genuine inquiry. Some in here really only think it is considered sex if an orgasm is produced from the act. I don't personally find this to be true.


No, i just kept seeing it in multiple posts. I find the idea verging on idiocy to be honest. I'm sorry if that hurts anyone's feelings but...yeah
 

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No, i just kept seeing it in multiple posts. I find the idea verging on idiocy to be honest. I'm sorry if that hurts anyone's feelings but...yeah


That's perhaps because you don't read to good. The OP asks what is the definition of gay sex, and he asks if one is a virgin even if one has engaged in a sex act but not orgasmed.

If the definition of a non-virgin is someone who has had sex and the definition of a sex act is any kind of act between 2 or more people which has the possibility of orgasm (which is exactly what you're saying) then a person who has engaged in those acts (regardless of whether they actually orgasmed) is in fact no longer a virgin.

a) that's my personal view, it's not some rule laid down in stone.
b) I'm not sure where you got the idea that people were saying that if you don't orgasm it's not sex, I don't actually see that in anyone's posts in the thread.
 
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I consider my imaginary sex and my masturbation sex too. And if it's about a female, it's gay sex, because of my plumbing. If somebody gets me to orgasm from heavy petting, that is definitely sex! And the lack of need for birth control makes it all the better

i have always liked this concept, "sex is what you make it" its actually very liberating
 

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If you suck a cock...THAT'S GAY SEX! If you fuck a guy up the ass....THAT'S GAY SEX! It's pretty obvious----When same sex individuals engage in a sex act, THAT'S GAY SEX! Some people do not consider oral sex, sex----EATIN' AIN'T CHEATIN' is their motto. If a married man and a woman, other than his wife, engage in oral sex, THAT'S FUCKIN' SEX! That is cheating!...If you and a bud jerk off together, THAT'S A GAY EXPERIENCE. If you and a bud jerk off each other, THAT'S GAY SEX. But, really, what does it matter? I like 69, kissing, body contact, cuddling, rimming, and fucking ass. With a guy. GAY, GAY, GAY! IF A MARRIED MAN LETS A trans FUCK HIM UP THE ASS, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAS TITS, THAT'S GAY SEX! If a married man sucks a cock or ass fucks another man, that's gay sex. Come on, you guys know gay sex is gay sex...By the way, I've known girls {18-20s} who have sex parties. They let the guys fuck them up the ass, in their mouth, but they won't let them fuck their pussy. That way, they can say they're a virgin:confused:
 
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Technically, just because an act makes someone orgasm, doesnt necessarily make it sex. I knew a guy that could orgasm from just having his nipples played with. I dont consider that "sex".
 

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Technically, just because an act makes someone orgasm, doesnt necessarily make it sex. I knew a guy that could orgasm from just having his nipples played with. I dont consider that "sex".


Technically what? There are no technical definitions of gay sex, and if he came from having his nipples played with what the hell do you call that if not sex? :tongue::biggrin1:

I mean you could call it forplay I suppose but forplay usually doesn't include the possibility of orgasm.

What do you call BDSM play?
 

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According to a lot of cultures, it's not sex unless you're the one being penetrated.
This is the case in most Islamic societies. From Wikipedia:

If one is the individual doing the penetrating, it is not regarded as sex. However, if one is being penetrated, it is, indeed classed as sex. Eminent scholars of Islam, such as Sheikh ul-Islam Imam Malik, and Imam Shafi amongst others, ruled that Islam disallowed homosexuality and ordained capital punishment for a person guilty of it.[1] Homosexual activity is a crime and forbidden in most Muslim-majority countries. In the Islamic regimes of Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen, homosexual activity is punished with the death penalty. In Nigeria and Somalia the death penalty is issued in some regions.[2]

Liwat is regarded as a temptation,[34] and anal intercourse is not seen as repulsively unnatural so much as dangerously attractive: "one has to avoid getting buggered precisely in order not to acquire a taste for it and thus become addicted."[35] In practise, the segregation of women and the strong emphasis on virility can lead to adolescents and unmarried young men seeking sexual outlets with males younger than themselves - in one study in Morocco, with boys in the age-range 7 to 13.[36] But deep shame attaches to the passive partner.[35] Similar sexual sociologies are reported for other Muslim societies from North Africa to Pakistan and the Far East.[37] In Afghanistan in 2009, the British Army was forced to commission a report into the sexuality of the local men after British soldiers reported the discomfort at witnessing adult males involved in sexual relations with boys. The report stated that there was a tradition of such relationships in the country, known as "bache bazi" or
boy play, and that it was especially strong around Kandahar.[38]

Raphael Patai
in The Arab Mind, has argued that among some Arabs homosexuality can be justified as an expression of power. The “active homosexual act is considered as an assertion of one’s aggressive masculine superiority, while the acceptance of the role of the passive homosexual is considered extremely degrading and shameful because it casts the man or youth into a submissive, feminine role”.[39]
In Saudi Arabia, the maximum punishment for homosexual acts is public execution. This however does not mean Muslims do not engage in homosexual relations. The difficulty of establishing relations with the opposite sex, due to the segregation of the sexes, means some men become involved with other men.[3] In some areas, such as Afghanistan, this has also encouraged widespread paederasty.[3]
 

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If one is the individual doing the penetrating, it is not regarded as sex. However, if one is being penetrated, it is, indeed classed as sex.

I assume this only applies to homosexual sex otherwise all heterosexual men would be virgins. Even so the inconsistency is ridiculous.
 

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According to a lot of cultures, it's not sex unless you're the one being penetrated.

Bull

In all human cultures intimate genital contact is considered sexual contact. Even just rubbing.

All "notions" that oral or manual contact does not constitute sex are individual rationalizations that people make to excuse themselves from guilt or responsibility.

"oh, baby, I wasn't having sex with her... it was just a BlowJob... I would never cheat on you..."


Evasions are evasive because they try to sidestep condemnation that the person making the evasion knows full well is deserved.

In point of fact... merely Kissing someone other than your committed partner is going to be seen by that partner as infidelity.


The only real cultural difference is in how severely they view sexual indiscretions...
In France, they consider such things to be expected and fairly trivial... in the US, such things can be marriage ending, or even career ending.


Absolving oneself thru parsing language is nothing more than a con job...
and what is more... its a con no one ever really falls for.