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3.I do agree that after a divorce alot of men get taken through the ringer but alot of women don't want it. In several states they are required to hand over to much. And also alot of women are made to take the child as a standard state practice and wether they want it or not the states require that the father pay child support. Point: my brother got a divorce and his ex didn't want child support because she knew he couldn't afford it,she didn't want him financially hurting, the state made him pay even though she went to them and told them she had her own money. So lets not listen to this man on shit like that shall we.
Here he also stated that women initiate 80% of divorces. Did he bother to look up what the 80% divided down to? Nope. Several are because of physical or emotional abuse or both, other are because they are being cheated, several are just because they grew apart, and again others are because they realized that they were being taken advantage of. Did he think about that or even look into why, nope.
And once again assuming that single mothers don't know how to find decent men because of an initial attraction to a guy is bullshit. That is like faulting a guy because he has a thing for blondes or asian girls. You cannot help what your initial attraction is for. But that does not mean a person cannot look deeper or in another direction. And this also seems to make no sense. As a decent man should he recommend giving yourself to her as a potential date to see a decent guy. This guy is not a decent man actually. He is telling you that all single mother play the victim, are sluts, but never put put at the same time and that they are hard working and care for their own ( he did word it like that but he did say they work all of the time and spend time with their kids), and are only out for good guys because their biological clock is ticking and that they want to take a man for his money and basically trick you into being the father for their kids basically dumping them on you.
If you are dumb enough to go out with a single mom and propose to her and not expect to act as a father figure to her kids and help out financially you are a egotistical moron. Plain and simple. Don't be that dumb. You are better than that.
4. He then blames her for not getting up earlier to ready herself. Has he tried to be a single parent? I doubt it. Once again that is even hard enough to do when you don't have kids or a spouse. This man is shallow. Don't be this guy. Be a better man than this. PLEASE! Be a better man. There is no real education in these videos.
He then says that if you commit to her she is basically asking to be a house wife which is completely unfounded. Most single mothers wouldn't dream of giving up their jobs because they need to know that if anything happens to this relationship she and her children will still be ok. She will more than likely drop some hours so she doesn't feel like she is dying because in a committed relationship you help take care of each other, in many ways, not always the same. And you both discuss it before hand. Of coarse you will help with the finances because that is what married people do. And once again if you commit to a single mother than it is no surprise that you will be their father. This is not something anyone of you want to take lightly. So ge needs to stop acting like this would be a surprise and stop acting like a victim to a decision he should have truely thought about before commiting. Most single moms will not date a guy unless they think they would be ok with her having children and what that entails.
This guy is an idiot. Let us watch some more and see what else he says that he didn't seem to truely think through shall we...
5. Bad boys are sexy. But that doesn't mean we all want to marry them. Like guys (sorry trying not to generalize) having a thing for hot and crazy. Same thing. It doesn't mean you want to marry them it conjures up sexual attraction. Once again that does not mean that these are the only types of peope girls or guys are attracted too. And if you are so shallow that you cannot see these kids for who they are that you get hung up on the fact that you are not the birthfather and so decide they they are lesser somehow then it actually shows that you are not a decent guy. Which this guy seems to be. So what if they were not produced with your sperm. So because of this these kids aren't worth it? What kind of self righteous bullshit is that?
Also in alot of these case the mothers already have homes and their own cars and 50-50 the men move in with the women not the other way around. Single moms are not leaches.And then he has the nerve to mock these children and calls them bastards. Once again if you are willing to probably be a father don't propose but don't drag her along. Don't be this shallow prick. You are better than this.
And what was that rant about everyone loving sex about?! She never said sex she said fun. Obviously his mind is in the gutter. And then she acts like she doesn't use birth control or condoms and is spreading STD's?! Where did that accusation com from? Out of his ass thats where.
Now he goes into a tangent about how they need to blame the woman putting make up on her. And once again act like she is playing a victim. She has already admitted to being attracted to the wrong type of guy and is searching for someone who is good. There is nothing wrong with wearing make up and she isn't playing a victim. The media isn't even making her out to be a victim. This guy I swear. Lets continue watching shall we...
And for the record I have 6 brothers so I am well acquainted with the plites of men. And even though they have been screwed over in many relationships does not mean that the women arent either. Relationships aren't easy. You just have to feel your way through them. So his childish mokery is ridiculous and petty. Not everyone is compatible. So yes there alot of failed relationships out there. And she may or may not be the problem but the same could be said for the guys. I am not seeing a double standard here in terms of advice being given. My brothers have hooked up with some "crazy pusy" which is the chick version of a bad boy. And yeah they got pregnant. But he should have worn a condom. It isn't like vaginas magically produce them. There were 2 people there doing the sexy time and it wasn't just the girls. My brothers were just as responsible as they were. The girls never asked for child support and they never took advantage of them. It just happened. However that being said they were all adults about it and they all did their part. Just because a chick gets pregnant doesn't mean she wanted to either.
My brother and there babies mothers tried to make it work but they never worked out. This did not mean they become enemies. And like a responsible adult wether they intended for a baby or not, like real men, my brothers did/ do work hard to try to be in their kids lives and provide in ways that they can and spend time with their children when they can. Having an open understanding in situation in situations like these is key. Everything will not be perfect. People need to try to really be understand of both sides which this guy is clearly doesn't.
 
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6. Make up and age critique?! Really? She i beautiful first off. And the make up that was applied is the natural approach. Because she doesn't want to look more bold. And if she put on red lipstick and smokey eye shadow then no doubt he would call her desperate, fake and whorish.:rolleyes:
And then the tears into her becaause of her age! Are you kidding me?! He basically just said that she is ugly and will just get uglier because of this. She hit a wall and is going down here from there. Basically telling any woman this age isn't worth it. :eek: What the hell is wrong with this guy? And then he mocks her arms.. He is a shallow self centered egotistical jerk. He thinks of himself as a decent man? And then acts like decent people treat other people this way. He seems to think decent men treat women, especially single women as whores and parias. That is not what decent peope do or how they think. Decent men/people do not assume things like this, and they do not mock a person because of their age or appearance. None of this has to do with the person's character. Which by the way is the important part.o_O
His next arguement is that she has no time to exercise because she has no time to get ready in the morning. Bullshit! I would wake up and look like a mess. Then put ny kids on the bus. Finally have a chance to get myself ready, because I have to focus on helping my kids get ready for school, and then I had time to workout after they left. Also so what if she eats at McDonald or BK? What is that supposed to prove? I mean really. And then he calls her a depreciating asset. This one statement says alot about how he views atleast single moms.He just seems to be looking for things ro complain about. Let us see what else he says that is shallow and judgemental shall we. By the way, NOT A DECENT GUY!
This guy has never had a successful relationship I bet. See now I am assuming which typically isn't nice, but I am taking into account the way he openly views women and what he seems to expect, which by the way is ridiculous. No woman in their right mind would want to be with such a shallow ass. But that is my opinion. I am not stating these things as facts like he seems be pushing his opinions.
7. A date! Sorry but only an idiot or someone who doesn't know anything about the real world would fallow his advice! The guy seems to be delusional. Is he in a happy for both parties, successful and productive relationship? I tend to doubt it.
Next he mock the man for his mode of dress insults him and her by mocking his good manners and kindness by telling her she is beautiful and then calls her mom vagina sloppy! And that wasn't everything he said. @sangheili90 Please don't be like this guy talking in this video. This man is not decent. He is mean and hateful! Can you not you not hear it?
And so what if he paid for her dinner. Perhaps she paid for his or they paid for their own or perhaps the show paid for it which is the most likely. The guy who made this video is a stooge.
And when she mentions dating someone her age he goes off on a once again assumed tangent about how she has been fucking "boys" younger than her and got pregnant by them. That is not at all what she said or even eluded too. Gah! This guy is an ass! And besides. What does that make guys like the dude who made the video? He says she is to old which means he fucks girls younger than her. So by his logic he is fucking young girls. Doesn't that make him a terrible slut too?
I mean really what doez he think an inspiring woman is? What is his definition of an inspiring woman would be. And the guy knows he is dating a single mom so it isn't a surprise that she has kids and would expect him to have a good relationship with her kids. And yes he would deserve everthing that came with dating a single mom. Including having a woman who has his back, someone who would love him no matter what, the love and admiration if having kids. The guy talking in this video has no concept of commitment or a healthy relationship. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE IDIOT! HE IS SO IGNORANT!
And yes that is why alot of these men do not commit. They are not ready for a family or are scared by one. It doesn't mean she is a leaper. It is ok if you are not ready for a ready made family. I get that but that does not mean she is tainted. You can not be ready for a family and not be a jerk about it. Ass. And then he goes and calls her a trolup and says he had sex with boys and that is how she got pregenant. This man assumes to much. Once again she could have been married first BEFORE she got pregnant. She could be a widow, they could have just grow apart. She could have been cheated on. This guy is an asshole to spread lies and willfully insight misunderstanding and sexual discrimination.:( BE A BETTER MAN THAN THIS. THIS IS NOT HOW DECENT MEN BEHAVE.
And then he mocks a DECENT man for being happy an willing to be a potential father. Heaven forbid someone is will to accept her, her family, and their lives as his own. That is commitment and being a great person. Once again it is ok if you don't want to date single moms because you are not ready or willing to have a ready made family. But don't make shit up about them to make your self feel better. Just admit that isn't what you are looking for. And that is ok. Just don't lie to yourself or others about these moms and situations because of you unwillingness no matter what this douch says.This guy has a really problem with thinking all single moms are sluts and users. Now there are a few in existence. No lie but to generalize all single moms into that catagory is highly shitty and asinine. This man is incompetent in the area of women. He clearly doesn't know what is up.
And he is right alot of single moms will stay single the rest of their live because they never found a decent man who was willing to accept their kids into their live. And then his comment about their sexual value on the market plummets. Wow! Sexual value on the market. It is clear the guy who made this video is only interested in modelesk young college girls. Because he doesn't seem to realize that a person character and compatability and willingness to evlove and grow and communicate is the key to a successful relationship. He only cares about the surface physically, and is grossly hung up on age and "sexual value". He is right alot of guys that do date single moms are stupid pieces if shit looking for a piece of ass because there are not many decent guys out there who are willing to help her raise her children. Creeps seem to come out of the wood work when a single mom tries to date but that doesn't mean that is what they are looking for. And alot od these guys pretend to be something they are not and then flake on the moms like this guy said when something "better comes along.". That isn't her fault that she was tricked and used. It is the dicks fault who tricked her and dumped her. That has nothing to do with her value. That is the assholes fault for leading her on.
He even admits to just using these women for booty calls. He also admits to being a single guy in his mid 30's. Which isn't terrible at all but it says nothing in his favor of what to look for when it comes to commitment and relationship. He just looks for ass. So he is the last person you need to go to for understanding the opposite sex. He doesn't look past the surface. And he made up most of the bullshit he said about single moms. This guy does not deserve you time or admiration.
And he calls guys who date single moms stupid or desperate that is just plain insulting. I do know guys who date single moms because they are desperate, stupid is never a reason. There also those who date single moms because unlike some they are not afraid or are ready for that type of commiment.
@sangheili90 Please do not believe this man. I watched this entire video, which I hated by the way, because I want to save you before you go down a path that is hard to pull yourself back from. I watched this whole thing so I know what you are talking about when you say or think thing like this. But this video was full of ignorance. And you are a smart man. You are industrious and hard working. You are so smart, but these are untruths. You are beautiful and funny but this is not the way to be.

I want you to have success and have healthy relationships. I know you are looking. And this man will destroy all hope for you if you fallow and believe what he says.
I beg you sweety to please not be like him. He is not decent. It is ok to not want to date a single mom. But this is not the way to go about it or think about them. This is not 95% of single moms. Do not pidgeon hole them or you. Go be successful! Just don't be like him.:(

And to quote Garth from Wayne's World, " If this guy were an ice cream flavor he would be pralines and dick!"
 
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Listen up, Sangheili. I know you've been told before, and I know that you're not willing to listen, but you really need to know this.

The MRA path that you've chosen to walk is counterproductive. I can understand that rejection is terrifying and that it can be frustrating not to be able to approach women. The MRA movement is based on that fear and that frustration. When you desperately and obsessively want to possess an object that you can't seem to get a hold of, it's reasonable to make a detailed plan to succeed in obtaining that object (be it a house, a car, a super famicom system, it doesn't matter). The problem is that, because men's right activists can't seem to find love or sex, they've applied this same logic to women, meaning that the entire movement is based on objectification. Because they don't understand what's wrong and refuse to believe that the problem can lie withing themselves, they have to perceive women as some sort of alien species that all think, feel, act and react alike to certain things. That their actions can be figured out by understanding some kind of underlying system on which their every action is based. The idea is that once you understand this system, you can manipulate women into accepting your reactionary world view. In other words, the MRA movement has overlooked the very important fact that women are just human beings. The systems you're looking for doesn't exist. The more you objectify, the more you evaluate women on their "dating value", the more you complain about the world being unfair and oppressive towards you specifically, and the more you refuse to accept that it might be you and not the world or women, the more disabled you will become when it comes to establishing a meaningful relationship.

Listen, all you can do is to live life and do things you enjoy in social settings. Talk to women as the human beings they are, stop thinking about sex and relationships, just live your life. Don't think of women as something that needs to be figured out, stop thinking that any contact with women should be an attempt to get a romantic date, stop thinking that no woman is worth having a friendship with. Quit all the creepiness and just god damn talk to people. If you do this, you will one day befriend a woman. You will gradually come to notice that everything that comes out of her mouth is a solid stream of pure gold. And suddenly you'll notice that you can't stop thinking about her. Not about fucking her or how she will be a perfect stay at home wife for you, but just thinking about the sheer radiance of her presence. And then you'll notice that she smells better than anyone else in the world and one day you will look into her eyes and realize that she's made you feel like no system, no broken code or no solved equation ever could. And in that moment, I promise you that you won't care about her "dating value". It won't matter if she's a single mom, if she's infertile, if she's rich or poor. None of it will matter.
That was one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard in my life. Who ever has you is very blessed. I am quite happy for her( or him, I haven't looked at your profile)!
 

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That was one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard in my life. Who ever has you is very blessed. I am quite happy for her( or him, I haven't looked at your profile)!

Thanks, Gelfingfay.

I think it's worth pointing out also that when women say that they are attracted to bad boys, they obviously don't mean that they are attracted to men that have a bad personality. It's a romanticized idea about an independent man who doesn't care about typical conventions. A man who's completely his own (these are traits that are undeniably attractive in both men and women). Obviously it doesn't mean that women are turned on by the idea of a man who will burst into their house drunk at night to beat them, or a guy who will cheat on them repeatedly and leave as soon as he gets them pregnant. What people tend to call a bad boy isn't necessarily a bad person.

It's actually somewhat annoying that people have taken to the term "bad boy", because it gives the MRA guys ammunition to claim that the reason they can't get women is because they are nice guys, and that women never, ever want guys who are nice. So when women don't want to be with those MRA types, it's simply because they are too nice, and you can't ask a person not to be nice, so the problem can't possibly stem from a flaw within themselves. It must be a problem with the world being discriminative towards men who are nice and a problem with women being programmed to like assholes. Obviously this view has no basis in reality. Women don't like assholes, and people who've succumbed to the views of MRA aren't nice guys. Quite the opposite, in reality. MRA guys are desperate men that have let their frustration turn them into misogynists, because it's easier to claim that there's something wrong with womanhood than to admit that there's something wrong with yourself. Which is not very nice at all. Kind of an asshole thing to do, actually.
 
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I agree with everything you have said except for just a few points because. I have no personal experience with enough guys that are of this mind set and "approach". My husband was considered a "bad boy" or a punk. But he has/ had integrity. He was patient. He was an ass but it was those who treated people unfairly.
Actually I do know one guy that looks acts a little like this but not that bad. He lost his wife because he thought it was ok to lie to his fiance about moving out of his mothers after they got married and he didn't. Which surprise he didn't do so she moved in with them. They he treat his wife like crap and let his mother berate her and hassell her to get on it and make her some grandkids. She finally convience him to move out so they can have their own lives and they get a place but he never moves in and gets his ass dumped because he refused to make a very basic change for his new life. The one he signed up for. That was a failed marriage. Because he kept blaming her for things that she wasn't responsible for. Never saw himself as thw problem. And they got divorced. And no she did not take him to the cleaners. They just divorced.
 
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Listen up, Sangheili. I know you've been told before, and I know that you're not willing to listen, but you really need to know this.

The MRA path that you've chosen to walk is counterproductive. I can understand that rejection is terrifying and that it can be frustrating not to be able to approach women. The MRA movement is based on that fear and that frustration. When you desperately and obsessively want to possess an object that you can't seem to get a hold of, it's reasonable to make a detailed plan to succeed in obtaining that object (be it a house, a car, a super famicom system, it doesn't matter). The problem is that, because men's right activists can't seem to find love or sex, they've applied this same logic to women, meaning that the entire movement is based on objectification. Because they don't understand what's wrong and refuse to believe that the problem can lie withing themselves, they have to perceive women as some sort of alien species that all think, feel, act and react alike to certain things. That their actions can be figured out by understanding some kind of underlying system on which their every action is based. The idea is that once you understand this system, you can manipulate women into accepting your reactionary world view. In other words, the MRA movement has overlooked the very important fact that women are just human beings. The systems you're looking for doesn't exist. The more you objectify, the more you evaluate women on their "dating value", the more you complain about the world being unfair and oppressive towards you specifically, and the more you refuse to accept that it might be you and not the world or women, the more disabled you will become when it comes to establishing a meaningful relationship.

Listen, all you can do is to live life and do things you enjoy in social settings. Talk to women as the human beings they are, stop thinking about sex and relationships, just live your life. Don't think of women as something that needs to be figured out, stop thinking that any contact with women should be an attempt to get a romantic date, stop thinking that no woman is worth having a friendship with. Quit all the creepiness and just god damn talk to people. If you do this, you will one day befriend a woman. You will gradually come to notice that everything that comes out of her mouth is a solid stream of pure gold. And suddenly you'll notice that you can't stop thinking about her. Not about fucking her or how she will be a perfect stay at home wife for you, but just thinking about the sheer radiance of her presence. And then you'll notice that she smells better than anyone else in the world and one day you will look into her eyes and realize that she's made you feel like no system, no broken code or no solved equation ever could. And in that moment, I promise you that you won't care about her "dating value". It won't matter if she's a single mom, if she's infertile, if she's rich or poor. None of it will matter.

Bravo and thank you. He won't listen, but when good men like you step up and dilute his bile it warms my heart <3

Surely I can't be the only one who finds it amusing that the angry, frustrated, isolated virgin is trying to school everyone else. OP, you have zero credibility - nobody is interested in your sad little opinion or that a girl was mean to you on the internet once. Boo-fucking-hoo. Single mothers don't want mean spirited personality vaccuums around their children, they love them you see, so you're safe. Well, you were safe anyway, absolutely nobody is seeking you out, but you're especially safe from single mothers. Which should make you happy :)

You are a clueless wonder and assume way too much. Your inexperience with life and relationships is showing. I wonder how many of the guys on here you have offended too with your rants? You see women aren't like gremlins where you spill a glass of water on them and five miniatiure versions pop out. Those children have fathers, regardless of the family dynamic, most of whom love them too and they might take exception to the vitriol with which you view their children.

Run along now, wouldn't want to pick a fight with a man.
 

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The thing about all this MRA stuff is that it has bugger all to do with gaining any rights for men, it's about taking rights away form others.

Yeah, it's actually an anti female rights movement. In essence, they just want to regain patriarchy. They want gender structures to function like they did 60 years ago. You will never find a men's rights activist who advocates for the right homosexual men. It's all about men who think that society has installed a personality in women that they never had to begin with. They want to take all personality out of the equation because they can't survive in a society where their money isn't enough for them to get women to be obedient. The advances in female rights have finally given women the luxury of deciding for themselves who they should spend their lives with (some places in the world, at least), and this has created a world where a number of men can't function, because their personalities are deeply flawed.

It was bound to happen. It's just so damn unfortunate that those events coincided with the prevalence of the internet.
 

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Well, I mentioned before that I've seen MRAs raise decent points on certain subjects in the past. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But these issues could still be more accurately described as 'human rights' than anything else.
 
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Well, I mentioned before that I've seen MRAs raise decent points on certain subjects in the past. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But these issues could still be more accurately described as 'human rights' than anything else.

Well, sure, even a blind hen finds a grain of corn sometimes, but I'm sure that if there ever were any legitimacy to the movement, it was all lost with the rise of the internet. The movement can only be defined by its anti-feminism, and in the rare cases where they've stumbled upon a legitimate concern, more often their not, their answer isn't to improve men's rights, but rather (like pointed out by Swoon) to revoke rights that have been instated to protect women. The movement doesn't have an identity of its own. It is purely based on reactionism. So even if they've raised decent points on certain subjects, I've never seen them propose a proportionate and acceptable suggestion on how to approach those concerns.
 
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Usually we get the finished product red pill popper/PUA/MRAer/whatever around these parts. They burst onto the scene bleating hysterically about 'game', all piss and wind. They are usually in deep denial about their own motivations and will vehemently reject the idea that their inability to connect with women and their refusal to be introspective about their failure has paved the way for their current philosophy. They latch on to their philosophy because it's far more soothing to the ego to imagine that your 'problem' is that you are just too 'alpha' or 'traditional' than to recognise that you are coming from a place of inadequacy and fear of that inadequacy. Now the OP can try and reinvent himself as much as he likes... but he can't erase his post history. You can literally track his evolution and peek behind the curtain, Wizard of Oz style. It's actually quite sad.
 

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Well, sure, even a blind hen finds a grain of corn sometimes, but I'm sure that if there ever were any legitimacy to the movement, it was all lost with the rise of the internet. The movement can only be defined by its anti-feminism, and in the rare cases where they've stumbled upon a legitimate concern, more often their not, their answer isn't to improve men's rights, but rather (like pointed out by Swoon) to revoke rights that have been instated to protect women. The movement doesn't have an identity of its own. It is purely based on reactionism. So even if they've raised decent points on certain subjects, I've never seen them propose a proportionate and acceptable suggestion on how to approach those concerns.
Oh, agreed. I was really just playing devil's advocate, maybe just for the sake of there actually being something of value for an actual grownup to discuss in this thread.
 
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I agree with one thing from that OP video. The buck does stop with the woman on pregnancy. Now I'm not letting men off the hook for not having protection. However if the guy forgot, ran out, or just didn't bring protection, then the final decision to still have sex does end with the woman. It does get me irked that most women put this solely on the man's shoulders and blames the man. What happened to no means no? Well you actually have to say no.
 

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I agree with one thing from that OP video. The buck does stop with the woman on pregnancy. Now I'm not letting men off the hook for not having protection. However if the guy forgot, ran out, or just didn't bring protection, then the final decision to still have sex does end with the woman. It does get me irked that most women put this solely on the man's shoulders and blames the man. What happened to no means no? Well you actually have to say no.
Also about the whole buck with pregnancy the onus soon might no longer be on the woman

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ill-is-still-so-hard-to-swallow-a7400846.html

So men we'll soon have equal responsibility in that department.