mgtow and mra guys make some valid points but their methodology is stupid, and also against them. Because of the ambiguity of the language being used, they do not understand that, freedom and power will come with responsibilities and accountability. They are so bitter about the current situation since they were raised with traditional ideas, so they are not well-equipped for the alteration of the society. I dont even know where to start... I will try to cut it short.
Those guys, and maybe also you OP, need to stop idealizing the female gender. What we call woman is just human female. And femininity is not being 'gay-ish' or 'girly', it is something else. Traditionally;
human female + femininity = woman
human male + masculinity = man
Femininity : Submissive, denies responsibility and accountablity, doesnt need to take care of themselves financially and also doesnt need to take care of others as financially, needed to be protected and has no obligation to protect, something that can be captured, allowed to be emotional, allowed to fail or not be succesful and also most of times prohibited to achieve success, allowed to be beautiful and praised by their body, center object of sexual desire, joint of social interactions... etc.
Masculinity : Dominant, responsible and accountable both for themselves and others, has to take care of themselves financially and others, noone need to protect them but they must protect others and themselves, someone that captures, not allowed to be emotional, not allowed to fail and allowed and must be successful, can not be beautiful, must crave for sexual object all the time, provider for social interactions... etc.
You need to understand that femininity (submission) is not slavery at all or masculinity (domination) is not complete possesion. If you are feminine, it means you deny your responsbility and accountability, if you are masculine, it means those denied responsibilities will be your burden and you will be held accountable for them. This can also be seen as the dominant (masculine) is a slave, and submissive (feminine) is its' owner.
'women's liberation', 'empowered women' are not exactly what you think. Women are allowed to become more masculine, which will be followed by forcing them to become more masculine as well as forcing males to become more feminine. Also, this will break the female monopoly over the femininity. It never was only ''men opresses women'', you know, it was also and mostly females didnt want to let males to have more feminine character and want to keep their monopoly over it.
Traditionalists idealize female gender as heroin, a desire object, so males have to compete each other, and be able to protect and provide for them in order to get one of them, so society will know they are successful, if not, you are a human no more. This is slavery in the mind. This keeps females achieving and explore the life, burden them with the 'so-called holy' mother figure only and also keeps males stressed, and burdened with females' denied agency/responsibilities.
Today's feminist movement also doing the same thing because of traditionalists. The actual danger is women's liberation+traditionalist ideas, which will be a complete slavery for males. This means females are liberated but also still keeping their monopoly over femininity, and still denying their agency and responsibilities.
So... what needs to be done is to leave traditionalist ideas, they dont mix well with women's liberation.
If females are leaving prostitution and getting sluttier, then males need to stop being sluts and lean a bit into prostitution. Yeah, males are sluts not females. Slut : promiscuous and always ready, Prostitute : Having standards and expect some type of payment.
Have some standars and principles, i have high standars when it comes to females. I'm not going have sex with any females i encounter, i'm not desperate. Oh and equal means equal. I dont value females more than i value males, but most males are so stupid they dont even value themselves, because most of them are mentally slaves to so-called divine femininity. I'm all for not paying for females and i dont, and i dont see it as an obligation. I dont feel any obligation to protect females as well. We are not living in some post-catastrophic times so protecting females is an absurd idea. All females must work and earn their life, they can not depend on anyone. If males are dying in wars, then females must die as well... etc etc list goes on. ınstead of crying, just change your way of thinking.
Stop idealizing females, speak to them as human beings like you are, rather than a divine object that will illuminate your life, because they are not and actually they far from it. You dont have to ''man up'', stop being tooooo much ''man''. Stop it, let it go. Relieve yourself from your burdens.
Hope my english level was enough to express my thoughts.
