The end of democracy in America.

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TThe Chinese government place strict limitations in the number of children a family could have based on concerns of overpopulation, and it applied to everyone in the country.

You sure type a lot of nonsense. The Chinese government enforces one child policy selectively, based on region and ethnicity. You are such a pompous phony. If you spent a quarter of the time getting an education as you do posting on these boards, you might have something of value to contribute someday.
 

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VinylBoy said:
The Chinese government place strict limitations in the number of children a family could have based on concerns of overpopulation, and it applied to everyone in the country.

You sure type a lot of nonsense. The Chinese government enforces one child policy selectively, based on region and ethnicity. You are such a pompous phony. If you spent a quarter of the time getting an education as you do posting on these boards, you might have something of value to contribute someday.

You should follow your own advice:
The one-child policy (simplified Chinese: 计划生育政策; traditional Chinese: 計劃生育政策; pinyin: jìhuà shēngyù zhèngcè; literally "policy of birth planning") refers to the one-child limitation applying to a minority of families in the population control policy of the People's Republic of China (PRC). It officially restricts married, urban couples to having only one child, although it allows exemptions for several cases, including rural couples, ethnic minorities, and parents without any siblings themselves. - One-child policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The law, as I suggested before, doesn't only focus on one particular kind of family or group, as illustrated by the bolded line of text. You claim that it's based on ethnicity, when it's clear that there's no exclusivity towards any specific minority nor does it state that any naturally born citizen to China is exonerated from the rule. You also ignorantly claim that it's based on region, when the law clearly makes mention and provides stipulations for those in urban AND rural areas. Is there another particular type of region we're supposed to be aware of for this law, or did you dream one up in that so-called "reality" of yours just so you could try and talk shit?

Furthermore, what was proposed by another member of this board is that we have similar legislation in America based on a person's financial and/or physical ability. And as you can see (if you actually read information about the law as well as previous comments made on this thread), those personal stipulations are not contemplated in the Chinese law. In fact, in some cases people are actually allowed to have additional children if the first was born with a disability - In most rural areas, families are allowed to apply to have a second child if the first is a girl, or has a physical disability, mental illness or mental retardation. Which means, if a couple in China lived in a rural area and gave birth to someone who was born with Down syndrome (as it was discussed before on this thread), they may be allowed by the government to have another child. Under the suggestions made by the other board member, just the existence of that possibility would deem that same couple ineligible. Same example, two entirely different results.

Don't worry... I won't ask you for an apology. We can agree to disagree and occasionally we can all make mistakes. In this case, however, I didn't make one. And considering this is the third time you've taken shots at me on my intellect based on nothing more than a silly dispute on a penis site, I do feel compelled to tell you right now to shut the f*ck up. Welcome to my ignore list. :rolleyes:
 
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You sure type a lot of nonsense. The Chinese government enforces one child policy selectively, based on region and ethnicity. You are such a pompous phony. If you spent a quarter of the time getting an education as you do posting on these boards, you might have something of value to contribute someday. [emphasis added]

Indeed!

"...Ethnic minorities were exempt from parts of the policy, which applied mainly to the Han ethnic majority that constitutes more than 90 per cent of all Chinese.

There have also been claims of genocide, through state-imposed abortions among pregnant women of the Uyghur ethnic group, which seeks an independent Turkestan homeland.

Human rights activists complain that the one-child policy has led to the practice of eugenics, and that the Chinese state uses it as a method of social engineering. ..."

Factfile: China's one-child policy - Times Online
 

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Indeed!

"...Ethnic minorities were exempt from parts of the policy, which applied mainly to the Han ethnic majority that constitutes more than 90 per cent of all Chinese.

There have also been claims of genocide, through state-imposed abortions among pregnant women of the Uyghur ethnic group, which seeks an independent Turkestan homeland.

Human rights activists complain that the one-child policy has led to the practice of eugenics, and that the Chinese state uses it as a method of social engineering. ..."

Factfile: China's one-child policy - Times Online

Indeed not.
I've already posted my information on the law, and based on its wording it's clear that no particular ethnicity is completely exonerated from its rule. Even the link you provided suggests that it wasn't 100% and that it was only certain parts of the policy. So it doesn't matter how you twist the numbers and position your arguments to suggest otherwise. More than 9 out of 10 people born in China were recognized under one ethnicity. Considering the overall ethnic breakdown of the country, it's safe to assume that much of the exemptions were made just to preserve some level of diversity in the country -

The Han Chinese are the largest ethnic group, where some 91.59% of the population was classified as Han Chinese (~1.2 billion). Besides the majority Han Chinese, 55 other "nationalities" or ethnic groups are recognised in mainland China by the PRC government, numbering approximately 105 million people, mostly concentrated in the northwest, north, northeast, south, and southwest but with some in central interior areas. The major minority ethnic groups are Zhuang (16.1 million), Manchu (10.6 million), Hui (9.8 million), Miao (8.9 million), Uyghur (8.3 million), Tujia (8 million), Yi (7.7 million), Mongol (5.8 million), Tibetan (5.4 million), Buyei (2.9 million), Dong (2.9 million), Yao (2.6 million), Korean (1.9 million), Bai (1.8 million), Hani (1.4 million), Kazakh (1.2 million), Li (1.2 million), and Dai (1.1 million). - List of ethnic groups in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, the Chinese government place strict limitations on the number of children a family could have based on concerns of overpopulation, and it applied to everyone in the country. Case closed. It wasn't just based on ethnicity or region as Zayne (who is now on my ignore list) implied.

And let's not even bring eugenics into the equation, as it wasn't that long ago that the same practice was happening in our own country. I already provided links to the problems that have arisen in North Carolina earlier. Again, someone suggested that our country should run tests on people to see if he or she is financially & physically able to have a child. That person also tried to draw similarities between this particular Chinese law and what he was suggesting. However, nobody has presented any evidence to suggest any of those stipulations have any bearing to the exercising of the Chinese Law. Until someone does, it doesn't matter how pompous, stupid, or "liberal" you think I am. His idea & the Chinese Law are barely similar in ideology, but NOT in practice.

And even if you are able to find that info, that still doesn't change the fact what is being suggested for lawful consideration in the United States is nothing more than class warfare given the stipulations presented. Since when should our government be giving out permits to procreate based on financial stability or physical health status? Who in their right mind would ever think this is a wonderful idea? Kinda funny how some people talk so much about the ills of China and get worried about our country becoming like them, but out of their own sense of inflated entitlement for being a taxpayer would consider legislation based on one of that country's most controversial laws to be enacted here. Greed & hypocrisy knows absolutely no limits with some of the blindly ideological around here. But yeah, because I pointed it out I'm supposed to be the problem... right? :rolleyes:
 
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