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Thnx for linking us to yet another excellent primer on asshole Republican style piss-on-you economics.

Every Republican president since Reagan save for Bush I has said tax cuts (mainly for the rich) are our one and only savior. And like the conservatives here they never have or offer any proof. Though we have immediate proof who benefits the most from them. But never mind that.

The tax cut duct tape is out and the deficit they cried for 8 years under Obama not a problem anymore.

Republicans’ tax-cut myth is about to crumble




 
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The point was, strictly, making a dig at attributing the disaster to climate change (no, I don't take a hard stance against that idea as Ms. Coulter does, but I am a proponent of giving people an honest reading).

Just more of that Coulter natural disaster humor we all love.
 

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Just more of that Coulter natural disaster humor we all love.

Yeah, using disasters for humorous purposes is definitely ethical grey area. I would suggest that using them to make political points is also, and the playing field is full of figures (across the board) who do that. Hell, I've done it a few times in the wake of Islamic terrorist attacks, and I'm not confident it was the right thing to do. I think it's worthy of note that what she was poking fun at was not the disaster itself or its victims particularly, but rather at climate change theorists. So I don't know that her purposes were particularly different from those who are using the disaster to make points for environmentalist ideology.
 

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I think it's worthy of note that what she was poking fun at was not the disaster itself or its victims particularly, but rather at climate change theorists. So I don't know that her purposes were particularly different from those who are using the disaster to make points for environmentalist ideology.

It's not ideology, but science, that matters. And it's Coulter's lack of credentials that distinguishes her from her targets.
 

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Yeah, using disasters for humorous purposes is definitely ethical grey area. I would suggest that using them to make political points is also, and the playing field is full of figures (across the board) who do that. Hell, I've done it a few times in the wake of Islamic terrorist attacks, and I'm not confident it was the right thing to do. I think it's worthy of note that what she was poking fun at was not the disaster itself or its victims particularly, but rather at climate change theorists. So I don't know that her purposes were particularly different from those who are using the disaster to make points for environmentalist ideology.

I think maintaining a sense of humor can help with tragedies, it's just important not to make those jokes at the expense of the victims of those tragedies.


So jokes like this I still find to be in good taste even if the humor's a little dark:


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But jokes like this I find to be in piss poor taste:


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Credentials never bothered a good honest conservative now did it?


Consider as support for that premise:

Well, Mike Huckabee would like to be transgendered for a day so he can parade through the girl lockers' rooms. Immaculate morals (sorry, wrong adjective, as he's not an idol-worshipping Catholic).

Ted Cruz thinks sex toys should be banned but somehow Twitter "likes" hardcore porn with bisexual women.:eek: Teddy, Teddy...stop touching those titties.

Gotta love Ted and Mike - always acting like Jesus.

I somehow forgot to mention the net worth of St. Joel Olsteen of Texas, valued at 60 million. He tirelessly feeds the hungry and the poor from his millionaire mansions, just like dear Mother Theresa. What a disciple! Just pray and convert and you will be blessed with great sex and great wealth. Just ask now!
 

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On Tuesday last week in another thread, a member wrote a reply to one of my posts in which he accused me of "spreading liberal talking point lies" and in which he attempted to portray the Republican party as the party appealing to more Black people, immigrants, other minorities, and "blue collar folk."

Commentary that, imo, was probably not all THAT coincidental, considering that just the week before, at the CPAC convention (which featured a stage that "just happened to be" designed like a Nazi symbol) Ted Cruz and other "luminaries" went at lengths to portray likewise - the grand OLD party as the party of the working class.

Also not coincidental considering Cruz again appeared on March 1, on Fux, to sell the same b.s. PABLUM. (See BELOW, Seth Meyer's coverage of this, Wednesday night's "A Closer Look" starting at around 4:30 mark and again at 7:50).

But then again, all of this SPIN AND MISDIRECTION is PAR FOR THE COURSE for the grand OLD party, who via jimmy rigged JIM CROW manipulations of gerrymandered districts, voter suppression, and the Electoral College, has managed to occupy the Oval Office by winning ONLY ONE popular election in 30 FKN YEARS, then fuck everything up (10 of the last 11 RECESSIONS occurred under THEIR MAL-administration), after which Democrats have to come to the rescue and RIGHT THE SHIP.

And throughout it ALL, they've consistently managed to FUCK the American people, including their own working class, middle class, and working poor constituency, while lining their own pockets and those of the FILTHY RICH.

And I'm not saying many Democratic lawmakers don't profit from and hobnob with the wealthy. But AT LEAST they, by and large, TRY to do something for the average JOE. They don't OPPOSE AND OBSTRUCT that which could be of benefit to THE PEOPLE then lie their asses off about who's to blame.

And the SAD part is, their constituency fall for it and EAT IT UP. EVERY time. And that's because the grand OLD party know that all they have to do is conjure up some dog-whistle demon "other" BOOGIE MAN, and their lemmings will fall RIGHT IN LINE.

FACT is, they've been pulling that racist smoke and mirror bullshit ever since ol RONNIE singled out a single errant "welfare queen" to demonize the whole. But in TRUTH they've done little or NOTHING for the middle class, labor, collective bargaining, or a decent minimum wage for the working poor, to name a few.

Just this last week NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM VOTED FOR the much needed Covid 19 bill. PAR FOR THE COURSE:

Not one Republican voted to help Americans in the midst of the COVID Pandemic. Not one.

MSNBC host, former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough says there's 'no doubt' that the GOP is 'unsavable'

GOP's 'anti-democratic' rhetoric on HR 1 signals a disturbing battle to maintain America's fragile democracy - Alternet.org

Paul Gosar Spoke At A White Nationalist Conference. The GOP Doesn't Care. | HuffPost


However, those interested in ACTUALLY LEARNING about how much the grand OLD party cares about THEM, (as in, TRUTH, not bullshit ALTERNATE REALITY) just MIGHT "flip" back through the pages of THIS thread. Or the QUITE excellent thread BLOCKED, courtesy of @sargon20.

That is, IF there were interested in THE TRUTH.

Blocked | LPSG

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On Tuesday last week in another thread, a member wrote a reply to one of my posts in which he accused me of "spreading liberal talking point lies" and in which he attempted to portray the Republican party as the party appealing to more Black people, immigrants, other minorities, and "blue collar folk."

Commentary that, imo, was probably not all THAT coincidental, considering that just the week before, at the CPAC convention (which featured a stage that "just happened to be" designed like a Nazi symbol) Ted Cruz and other "luminaries" went at lengths to portray likewise - the grand OLD party as the party of the working class.

Also not coincidental considering Cruz again appeared on March 1, on Fux, to sell the same b.s. PABLUM. (See BELOW, Seth Meyer's coverage of this, Wednesday night's "A Closer Look" starting at around 4:30 mark and again at 7:50).

But then again, all of this SPIN AND MISDIRECTION is PAR FOR THE COURSE for the grand OLD party, who via jimmy rigged JIM CROW manipulations of gerrymandered districts, voter suppression, and the Electoral College, has managed to occupy the Oval Office by winning ONLY ONE popular election in 30 FKN YEARS, then fuck everything up (10 of the last 11 RECESSIONS occurred under THEIR MAL-administration), after which Democrats have to come to the rescue and RIGHT THE SHIP.

And throughout it ALL, they've consistently managed to FUCK the American people, including their own working class, middle class, and working poor constituency, while lining their own pockets and those of the FILTHY RICH.

And I'm not saying many Democratic lawmakers don't profit from and hobnob with the wealthy. But AT LEAST they, by and large, TRY to do something for the average JOE. They don't OPPOSE AND OBSTRUCT that which could be of benefit to THE PEOPLE then lie their asses off about who's to blame.

And the SAD part is, their constituency fall for it and EAT IT UP. EVERY time. And that's because the grand OLD party know that all they have to do is conjure up some dog-whistle demon "other" BOOGIE MAN, and their lemmings will fall RIGHT IN LINE.

FACT is, they've been pulling that racist smoke and mirror bullshit ever since ol RONNIE singled out a single errant "welfare queen" to demonize the whole. But in TRUTH they've done little or NOTHING for the middle class, labor, collective bargaining, or a decent minimum wage for the working poor, to name a few.

Just this last week NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM VOTED FOR the much needed Covid 19 bill. PAR FOR THE COURSE:

Not one Republican voted to help Americans in the midst of the COVID Pandemic. Not one.

MSNBC host, former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough says there's 'no doubt' that the GOP is 'unsavable'

GOP's 'anti-democratic' rhetoric on HR 1 signals a disturbing battle to maintain America's fragile democracy - Alternet.org

Paul Gosar Spoke At A White Nationalist Conference. The GOP Doesn't Care. | HuffPost


However, those interested in ACTUALLY LEARNING about how much the grand OLD party cares about THEM, (as in, TRUTH, not bullshit ALTERNATE REALITY) just MIGHT "flip" back through the pages of THIS thread. Or the QUITE excellent thread BLOCKED, courtesy of @sargon20.

That is, IF there were interested in THE TRUTH.

Blocked | LPSG

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I selected Blocked | LPSG and found a very lengthy list of acts designed for someone in the middle class that have been blocked by Republicans. This list comes from 2016. There are many more blocked acts since then I'm sure!
 
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I selected Blocked | LPSG and found a very lengthy list of acts designed for someone in the middle class that have been blocked by Republicans. This list comes from 2016. There are many more blocked acts since then I'm sure!

Indeed there are. An estimated 395 BILLS, passed by the House, many of them BIPARTISAN accumulated on MOSCOW MITCH'S desk in just the LAST YEAR of Trump's MAL-administration, and the toad fkng laughed and BRAGGED about it. Moscow Mitch makes clear the 395 House-passed bills are dead, but they're alive for the election

Their GO TO explanation for OBSTRUCTING legislation aimed at helping even their OWN fkn CONSTITUENCY is to proclaim such legislation as a "left wing pet project." As if Covid relief for MILLIONS of America (for example) is a "pet project."

HINT: To them, ANY legislation that doesn't DIRECTLY benefit THOSE b-------------ds or their right winged fat cat CORPORATE CRONIES is a "pet project."

And in tonight's "Last Week Tonight" John Oliver tears them a new a-----ole on exactly that same thing in two segments: the first, how Fux News's "alternate reality" replaces real news with BULLSHIT false flags, and the second, how state unemployment systems fail to meet the needs of its people - the WORST offenders being (you GUESSED it) Republican led states like North Carolina, Tennessee, and Florida. (see entire segment below):

Statistics show that the GOP is one of the most far-right, fascist political parties in the world

GOP senators meltdown after Democrats roll over them and pass the COVID aid bill - Raw Story

John Oliver takes down Fox News for refusing to cover domestic terrorism over fake 'canceling' of Dr. Seuss - Raw Story


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The following is a must read if you are really interested in the Senate filibuster rule and how it might be changed or done away with soon. The title doesn't indicate this but the last part of the article is about where the state of the Senate rule for filibusters is at the present time and where it might go in the immediate future.

There is a real chance that the filibuster might be abolished or at least somewhat changed.

Republicans are inadvertently setting themselves up for defeat in the Senate

Heather Digby Parton, Salon

Much of the article is about how Republicans for 30 years have not played bi-partisanship while the Democrats have.

The article goes on to explain how instead of doing away with the filibuster some Democrats are leaning to some kind of reform that allows for extensive debate, but has a way to an eventual vote preventing a minority to completely determine whether bills could or could not be passed by the majority.*

A few quotes from the article:

"Bipartisanship has been dead for nearly 30 years, at least when it comes to Democratic initiatives. Yet Republican legislation rarely suffers the same fate.

Back in 2001, when the Senate was at 50-50, as it is now, 12 Democrats crossed the aisle to vote for George W. Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

"The vote was before 9/11 so it wasn't driven by the compulsory "national unity" bipartisanship that ruled Washington for several years after the attacks."


"It appears that 48 Democratic senators are now on board with some kind of reform. ...

"While both Manchin and Sinema have said they will not vote to eliminate the filibuster altogether, ...

"Sinema indicated in a letter to a constituent that she may be open to reviving the talking filibuster because today's "virtual" version makes it just too easy. ...

"And this weekend Manchin seemed to indicate the same."


Many may wonder including me if the filibuster as presently written in Senate rules can be used for votes to change the rules of the Senate.

It is my recollection that rule changes are basically a vote yea nor nay with very limited debate as in each senator gets five minutes and that is it.

If my memory is correct, which sometimes it isn't, this would mean that fifty Republican five minute slots of debate time would equal 4 hours and ten minutes. There might be a need for a Democratic senator to refute some comments by Republican senators.

I suspect any Democratic comments intended audience would be the press and the American people, not Republican senators.

If I am correct, then within five hours after the filibuster bill is brought up for passage, any debate would be over and the vote taken. The filibuster would be abolished or at least major changes would be made in the filibuster rule.

That would be two major victories for the Democrats who only have a majority when Harris is there to break the tie. And the president is a centrist!

I now have real hope now that Biden, the Senate and the House will really be able to enact what the American people want to be enacted and turn this nation to a path that the Founders of the Republic intended when they wrote the US Constitution!

*One change I would want to put in the bill to modify the filibuster is that when a bill is being filibustered, only half a Senate day can be devoted to the filibuster being done so that the Senate can continue on with other business of the Senate.

It is foolish to let a filibuster shut down all committee meetings and the Senate to stop considering all other needed bills.

In the past, filibustering was being done continuously 24 hours a day to keep the filibuster alive for days, sometimes weeks before a closure bill, which can be voted on at any time, was past to limit the debate or the filibustered bill was withdrawn. This also needs tweaking.
 

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^ NOT to mention, @Freddie53 that the prevailing argument against doing away with the filibuster is that not having it could favor a Republican controlled senate, an argument ENTIRELY predicated upon the belief that THEY wouldn't eliminate it at some future date if they DID regain control. Which, given what they've defended and pulled of LATE, is sure as HELL not guaranteed.

Anyway, continuing with the theme of HOW REPUBLICANS FUCK THEIR OWN CONSTITUENCY, I'm reposting this story that I posted in another thread, which shows in nicely colored graphics (for those either inclined to disavow FACTS or who need information in the form of visual stimuli) the BIG DIFFERENCES in who benefits from Democratic ideas as opposed to the grand OLD party:

One chart shows the dramatic difference between Biden's American Rescue Plan and the Trump tax scam - by Aldous J Pennyfarthing (author of "Dear Fucking Lunatic") - dailykos.com

I still remember when Donald Trump got up in front of a throng of masochistic fools and said, of his plutocrat-friendly 2017 tax cut bill, “This is going to cost me a fortune, this thing, believe me. This is not good for me. ... I think my accountants are going crazy right now.”

I was gobsmacked, because I still naively believed that you can’t lie all day, every day about things that are obviously and demonstrably untrue and get away with it.

Ha ha ha ha!

Oh, Aldous, you callow simp. That’s not how the world works. The way to a MAGA voter’s heart is through his chafed and irritated asshole, not his brain or pocketbook. All you have to do is shout something about forcing Mexico to pay for a racist wall you’ll never actually build and racists will believe any fucking thing you say, no matter how absurd it is.

In fact, soon after Trump had rapaciously Dutch-ovened his most loyal followers with this brazen lie, he told his wealthy Mar-a-Lago “friends” (I’m still convinced Trump has no actual, bona fide “friends,” for much the same reason my tapeworm hasn’t had any luck with online dating) that they had “all just got a lot richer." This was mere days after telling the rest of us that the tax bill would be "one of the great Christmas gifts to middle-income people."

In other words, he was lying. Big-league.

But I suppose we plebes can be forgiven for misunderstanding the abstruse details of a complex tax-reform bill, even if the bottom line was that most Americans were getting crumbs while the rich were getting fire-hosed with canapés and fancy soft European cheeses. Again.

But here’s one way to demonstrate the stark difference between Trump’s phony “middle-class” tax cut and what Joe Biden just did for the American people—a chart that shows it all in beautiful reds and blues:

The top 20% of households reaped 65% of benefit from Trump’s tax cuts. The bottom 20% got 1%. The American Rescue Plan gives aid to those who actually need it. My @Morning_Joe chart: pic.twitter.com/Ptq9Hpu3KA — Steven Rattner (@SteveRattner) March 8, 2021
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One chart shows the dramatic difference between Biden's American Rescue Plan and the Trump tax scam - by Aldous J Pennyfarthing (author of "Dear Fucking Lunatic")
In fact, soon after Trump had rapaciously Dutch-ovened his most loyal followers with this brazen lie, he told his wealthy Mar-a-Lago “friends” (I’m still convinced Trump has no actual, bona fide “friends,” for much the same reason my tapeworm hasn’t had any luck with online dating) that they had “all just got a lot richer." This was mere days after telling the rest of us that the tax bill would be "one of the great Christmas gifts to middle-income people."

In other words, he was lying. Big-league.

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Love that line!

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