You know, my church is on the brink of failure, and since it is one of the most historically rich (though not financially at this point) churches in the entire country, that's really a sad thing. You know what I think its biggest problem is? Crybabies. Any organization has them, the problems occur when there is no balance between action oriented people, and their whiny counterparts. Don't get me wrong. An organization needs its crybabies. Who else is going to remind that organization where it came from? After all, change is good and neccesary, but like anything else, only beneficial in moderation. Anything that doeesn't evolve will die. Life has only two stages: growth, decay. However, it is usually not desireable to have something change so much that it isn't even the same creature anymore. Crybabies loudly, and freaquently remind us not to change everything too quickly, or too completely. Crybabies are annoying (sorry, crybabies, you are) and tend to drive away action-oriented beings (AOB). This happens because the AOB wants to get away from whiny, crybabies, or because the AOB believes the whiny crybabies and goes off to find an organization that is "The way this place was in the old days" and then the AOB puts his energy into making that place even more fabulous. Here, crybabies here tend to make typical crybaby posts on other threads. But they fail to realize they have become part of the very problems they are describing. A crybaby post is not informative, or supportive. It also will rarely inspire someone to seek the crybaby's friendship (unless another crybaby comes along). Instead of reading an entire thread that doesn't appeal, especially after discovering that you were disinterested in the original post, why not stop when you see the direction is not for you? Why not start threads that you would like to read? Write an essay about your huge endowment and the impact it's had on different aspects of you life, and post that. Some of the crybabies here are from the era of hippies. Didn't hippies used to say, "If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem." ? Boycott the threads that you think are threatening the usefulness of the site, and start some provocatrive ones yourself. This IS the type of support I give by the way. I tell someone when their shit stinks, and then celebrate with them when they flush the toilet. Hmm. Sorry about the gross analogy. Crybabies: Your shit stinks. Go flush the toilet.