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None that THEY'D have ever recognized ANYWAY. That good ol manifest destiny mentality, eh?

Exactly. What is the point in the word games? We all know how this would have played out. You have what we want and our guns are bigger than yours. Hand it over or else. The victors in war are never charged with a crime.
 
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Are you suggesting if the indigenous people had immigration laws the European explorers and settlers would have honored them?
As I recall, the Indians of the plains and the Western US did
have a policy of not allowing the western movement of American citizens to come and settle on their land. They did not have a Secretary of State and a Congress to pass laws concerning immigration. It was a matter that the Chief said don't let those people settle here and that was it. The war between US army and the Native Americans was next.

The US army was dispatched to clear out the Native Americans so the American settlers could take whatever land they wished. The Native Americans did not gain citizenship in the US for several decades later.

More than a century earlier, the British made alliances with some tribes of Native Americans while the French made alliances with other tribes of Native Americans. These two wets of tribes had been at odds for a long time when European settlers came to settle.

The old "Divide and Conquer" doctrine was at play.

In general, the Native Americans east of the Mississippi River were allied with the British, and the Native Americans west of the Mississippi River were allied with the French.

The French and the British used the power of different Native American tribes to maintain their control of the land.

The next part that I wrote I moved to the Coronavirus thread so all could read it.
 

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All the past genocides are reflected in the culture today. It continues on the southern border with the family separation policy of the extremists in Washington, who ought to be hauled off to the Hague to face justice for their crimes. POTUS can't pardon himself from that Court, or pack it, and Joe Biden should personally sign the extradition papers.

What those fuckers are doing to those children and their families are classic Human Rights Abuses.

America should be ashamed.
 

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Where were these so called lawyers holier than thou mentally, when Hillary Clinton's emails were being erased? Or when the Obama administration stood idly by while Russia interfered in our election? As silent as the grave. That's where they were. Bunch of friggin Turncoats that's exactly what they are. I hope if Trump gets reelected they all lose their jobs.
What flavor koolaid did you drink?
 

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Big difference is that Trump is not a career politician. Biden had 47 years to make changes for all Americans. What did he do? Lined his own pockets from money from big pharmacy and insurance lobbyists. Helped his son Hunter.

Trump meanwhile hasn't been in Washington except for almost four years. Everything he's done you liberal lefties have criticized, bitched about. I sincerely hope you guys get to bitch about him for four more years. He's certainly done more for America than any President before him. And you can't blame Coronavirus on him nor the loss of life either. Although you guys have really tried to. At some point Americans have to take responsibility for their own actions.

You want to blame Coronavirus on someone blame China for not taking it more seriously at the onset. Biden and the rest of the liberal left called him a xenophobe for wanting to close the borders in January. Idiot's!

Meanwhile the Pelosi house has spent much of the first three years with impeachment and Russian collusion. All which turned out to be lies. Still you on the left persist. Still pissed off that Crooked Hillary lost. Bravo!
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I wasn't asking "them". I was asking g8gatsby. If you're interested in pitching in, feel free to point to indigenous laws that regulated immigration. It's not like the academic world is completely lacking awareness of indigenous law.

"Them" meaning the Puritans... or, for that matter, any OTHER European transgressor-invader-"conquistador." History clearly shows us "THEY" never gave a flying fuck about ANY indigenous peoples' laws or rights, written or unwritten, your "show me the law" response, notwithstanding.

 
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"Them" meaning the Puritans... or, for that matter, any OTHER European transgressor-invader-"conquistador." History clearly shows us "THEY" never gave a flying fuck about ANY indigenous peoples' laws or rights, written or unwritten, your "show me the law" response, notwithstanding.

I'm not seeing what your response has to do with the status of European settlers as "illegal immigrants".
 
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The Lincoln Project did a great job in turning out many Republicans to vote for Biden, and presumably a lot of fence-sitting Democrats and independent voters as well, right up to the last minute on November 3rd, (see video below). But, in my mind, they are still a Republican organization, and therefore, I am skeptical of their true long-run intent.

Now that the presidential election is settled, I will trust the intent of TLP a lot more, if they now focus their money and creativity on the crucial January 5th run-off for Georgia's two seats in the Senate. Without winning them both, Mitch McConnell and other Trump loyalist Republicans will still be in control of the Senate, and they will just continue to be obstructionists to progress in this nation.

If The Lincoln Project puts their money where their mouths are, and backs-up "firebrand" Rev. Raphael Warnock, against the 1% "darling", insider-trading, Republican Senate appointee, Kelly Loeffler, and newcomer Jon Ossoff, against one term do-nothing, fellow insider-trading, Republican David Perdue, then they will have my deepest respect.

In Georgia Senate runoffs, the focus — and the fire — is on Raphael Warnock
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/georgia-senate-runoffs-focus-fire-is-raphael-warnock/

"If Warnock and Ossoff both win, they would knot the upper house at 50 seats for each party, with the tie-breaking vote belonging to Democratic Vice President Kamala D. Harris once she takes office on Jan. 20. The success of the Ossoff-Warnock pairing will determine whether Joe Biden’s administration is able to enact an ambitious agenda or whether Republicans can blunt Democratic power."

How the attack ads in Georgia’s Senate runoff races are shaping up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/17/how-attack-ads-georgias-senate-runoff-races-are-shaping-up/

"Whichever party wins both Georgia Senate runoff races will have done so because it successfully motivated more of its voters to come to the polls again in January. And that means doubling down on partisan attacks against the other side."

As coronavirus ravaged U.S. economy, Georgia Sen. Perdue saw an opportunity


Senate Ethics Panel Drops Insider Trading Probe Into Kelly Loeffler


As of September 5, 2018, there have been 1,974 members of the United States Senate, but only ten have been African American. I may be naïve about "Deep South" politics, but, it appalls me that Georgia, and several other southern states have never been represented by an African American Senator in the 20th or 21st Centuries.

A/B
 
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The Lincoln Project did a great job in turning out many Republicans to vote for Biden, and presumably a lot of fence-sitting Democrats and independent voters as well, right up to the last minute on November 3rd, (see video below). But, in my mind, they are still a Republican organization, and therefore, I am skeptical of their true long-run intent.

Now that the presidential election is settled, I will trust the intent of TLP a lot more, if they now focus their money and creativity on the crucial January 5th run-off for Georgia's two seats in the Senate. Without winning them both, Mitch McConnell and other Trump loyalist Republicans will still be in control of the Senate, and they will just continue to be obstructionists to progress in this nation.

If The Lincoln Project puts their money where their mouths are, and backs-up "firebrand" Rev. Raphael Warnock, against the 1% "darling", insider-trading, Republican Senate appointee, Kelly Loeffler, and newcomer Jon Ossoff, against one term do-nothing, fellow insider-trading, Republican David Perdue, then they will have my deepest respect.

The Lincoln Project is campaigning for a Democratic Senate with a new ad - dailykos.com

by Voidstuff, Saturday November 07, 2020 · 12:58 AM CST- EXCERPT:


I figured that the Lincoln Project would be our ally until Nov. 3 or Dec. 8 at the latest and then go back to being the bad guys. Not so fast. They’re with us until at least January. Here’s a new ad they’ve released in support of Jon Ossoff for Senate:

We’re staying in the fight: to defeat Trumpism we must also defeat David Perdue.

Let’s elect Jon Ossoff. pic.twitter.com/p7IAPaCaZY — The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) November 6, 2020

So, they’re not just about beating Trump. They’re about beating Trumpism. Maybe they’re not as bad as we thought.


 

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^ @b.c. - Good to know! Looks like the author and I were on the same "wavelength". But, TLP are still Republicans. We'll see their true colors, and what they will turn out to really be, after January 20th.

Honest to gawd... I don't understand how, after the last four years, and especially right now, that those people can remain associated with that repugnant party?

A/B
 
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The Lincoln Project did a great job in turning out many Republicans to vote for Biden, and presumably a lot of fence-sitting Democrats and independent voters as well, right up to the last minute on November 3rd, (see video below). But, in my mind, they are still a Republican organization, and therefore, I am skeptical of their true long-run intent.

Now that the presidential election is settled, I will trust the intent of TLP a lot more, if they now focus their money and creativity on the crucial January 5th run-off for Georgia's two seats in the Senate. Without winning them both, Mitch McConnell and other Trump loyalist Republicans will still be in control of the Senate, and they will just continue to be obstructionists to progress in this nation.

If The Lincoln Project puts their money where their mouths are, and backs-up "firebrand" Rev. Raphael Warnock, against the 1% "darling", insider-trading, Republican Senate appointee, Kelly Loeffler, and newcomer Jon Ossoff, against one term do-nothing, fellow insider-trading, Republican David Perdue, then they will have my deepest respect.

In Georgia Senate runoffs, the focus — and the fire — is on Raphael Warnock
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/georgia-senate-runoffs-focus-fire-is-raphael-warnock/

"If Warnock and Ossoff both win, they would knot the upper house at 50 seats for each party, with the tie-breaking vote belonging to Democratic Vice President Kamala D. Harris once she takes office on Jan. 20. The success of the Ossoff-Warnock pairing will determine whether Joe Biden’s administration is able to enact an ambitious agenda or whether Republicans can blunt Democratic power."

How the attack ads in Georgia’s Senate runoff races are shaping up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/17/how-attack-ads-georgias-senate-runoff-races-are-shaping-up/

"Whichever party wins both Georgia Senate runoff races will have done so because it successfully motivated more of its voters to come to the polls again in January. And that means doubling down on partisan attacks against the other side."

As coronavirus ravaged U.S. economy, Georgia Sen. Perdue saw an opportunity


Senate Ethics Panel Drops Insider Trading Probe Into Kelly Loeffler


As of September 5, 2018, there have been 1,974 members of the United States Senate, but only ten have been African American. I may be naïve about "Deep South" politics, but, it appalls me that Georgia, and several other southern states have never been represented by an African American Senator in the 20th or 21st Centuries.

A/B


To call The Lincoln Project Republican's is a bit of a stretch. Even if they insist they are Republicans. The may have formerly been Republicans. But clearly to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense they are Democrats and independents at best.

Never Trumpers, who turned on their party because they are exactly what they accuse Trump of being. Sore losers, divisive, ego maniacs.

The proof is in the pudding. They are backing Democrat candidates in Georgia'. Which if they can pull it off would give the Senate into the hands of Schumer and the Democrats. Giving all three branches of government into the hands of the Democrats.

No Republican in their right mind wants that to happen. We see them for what they are.
 

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Or maybe they TOO are tired of Moscow Mitch's DO NOTHING Senate, who covered for the criminal-in-chief's attempt to extort a foreign government for dirt on his political rival,

who has some 395 BILLS, many of them BIPARTISAN, sitting on McConnell's desk,

and who STALLED on additioinal stimulus relief for MILLIONS of Americans, yet managed to ram through the remainder of hundreds of INCOMPETENT and UNQUALIFIED Trump judgeships, before ducking out for the holidays.
 

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Meanwhile he's managed tp get through some judges and change ther dynamic of many courts. Yet to claim to be Republican while backing Democrat candidates who, given the opportunity will tax and spend for four years. Doesn't make one any less a Democrat.
 
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Honest to gawd... I don't understand how, after the last four years, and especially right now, that those people can remain associated with that repugnant party?

A/B

Hillary got many things right about them but none as spot on as this:
'half' of Trump supporters are 'deplorables'

I take that back she said half we now can safely up that number to 100%.