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You can NOT be that fucking deluded

Same CLASS of people ??

WHAT THE FUCK ???

Romney's father was CEO of Rambler/AMC

OBama's father was CEO of NOTHING

Romney's father was Governor of Michigan

Obama's father never held elective office ANYWHERE

Romney was borne with a Platinum spoon in his mouth, went to private schools from day one and Daddy paid for it all.

Obama went to public schools, to college of scholarships and as a sitting US Senator he and Mickelle were still paying off their college loans when he sold his first book

Same class of people

RIIIGHT

Obviously you didn't read the post prior. Loose cannon! Go read what I posted previously.
 
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It lost her a hell of a lot of support amongst the undecided in 2016, but looking back, I'm so glad she said it!

I love the visuals that a "Basket of Deplorables" conjures up. Dim recall, that the editorial cartoonists at the time had a hay-day with that.

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And for many it has cost them their lives but that’s OK too. Prior to Trump we’ve often wondered how the Germans could have been so seduced by Hitler. Now we know how. Pretty easy. We’ve had a front row seat for four years now.
 
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You can NOT be that fucking deluded

Same CLASS of people ??

WHAT THE FUCK ???

Romney's father was CEO of Rambler/AMC

OBama's father was CEO of NOTHING

Romney's father was Governor of Michigan

Obama's father never held elective office ANYWHERE

Romney was borne with a Platinum spoon in his mouth, went to private schools from day one and Daddy paid for it all.

Obama went to public schools, to college of scholarships and as a sitting US Senator he and Mickelle were still paying off their college loans when he sold his first book

Same class of people

RIIIGHT

Color ok. Color. Can’t say it out loud.
 
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You really don't know the difference? Obama nor Trump are in the same class of people Romney is. But then again I wouldn't give you a plug nickle for either one of them.

And that's where we see things differently, or may just be looking at different things. I see both Obama and Romney (for all my reservations about the latter) exuding far more "class" than Trump. But of course, that's an incredibly low bar.
 

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What (I think) he means is Romney is old money and regardless of how much Trump may have, he will never be old money. That's the class difference referred to. The implication being that old money Romney, just could not lower himself to debate because of the blue blood upbring. I think it's a hogwash explanation for Mitt's shortcomings as a candidate. He's just a stiff guy with an elitist perspective. Obama is a different sort of elitist. Trump's an wannabe elitist. He grew up thinking he belonged to an elite class, but he's from Brooklyn and lacked innate talent and character to overcome his father's social status and raise himself up a class level. Plus, all the elite people he has ever met know that he is a load of BS, don't respect him and he hates them for it.

The Lincoln Project are great at anti- Trump, but I don't trust ex-neocons very much.
 
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What (I think) he means is Romney is old money and regardless of how much Trump may have, he will never be old money. That's the class difference referred to. The implication being that old money Romney, just could not lower himself to debate because of the blue blood upbring. I think it's a hogwash explanation for Mitt's shortcomings as a candidate. He's just a stiff guy with an elitist perspective. Obama is a different sort of elitist. Trump's an wannabe elitist. He grew up thinking he belonged to an elite class, but he's from Brooklyn and lacked innate talent and character to overcome his father's social status and raise himself up a class level. Plus, all the elite people he has ever met know that he is a load of BS, don't respect him and he hates them for it.

Yes, that's what I meant when I said he and I were looking at different things, and why I put "class" in quotation marks to suggest my use of the word differed from his. I'm interested, not in whether you have money, old or new, but rather in the traits and values you may demonstrate.

From that purely personal perspective, for what it's worth, I'm inclined to see Obama, not as elitist, but simply as elite. ;)
 

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What wrongs did Biden make right in the 47 years he was in office? What wrongs did Obama right? None. Politicians don't give a rat's ass about working and lower income citizens. They care about winning their next election.
They could care less whether you and I live paycheck to paycheck as long as they can become wealthy. Lobbyist and big pharmacy and insurance line their pockets. They don't actually care about us. To think they do just shows how naive one is.
Biden wasn't in power, that's a privilege the president has. Well according to Trump it is.
And just in case you forget the Senate repeatedly blocked anything Obama wanted to put through, they hung him out to dry refusing any bi partisan deals for the betterment of the country as a whole.
If you want to blame anyone for the fact nothing was done to help the working and lower class citizens then blame McConnell and huis cronies
And yes you nailed it on the head when you said "They care about winning their next election" Sums up Trump and his refusal to face the pandemic and the GOP for being more interested in lining their pockets even if it cost 3000,000 deaths.
Your were spot on, its all about the re-election, the setting up of a dynasty and the economy - hence the rump prep-occupation when the DOW rose to 3,000.
 

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Biden wasn't in power, that's a privilege the president has. Well according to Trump it is.
And just in case you forget the Senate repeatedly blocked anything Obama wanted to put through, they hung him out to dry refusing any bi partisan deals for the betterment of the country as a whole.
If you want to blame anyone for the fact nothing was done to help the working and lower class citizens then blame McConnell and huis cronies
And yes you nailed it on the head when you said "They care about winning their next election" Sums up Trump and his refusal to face the pandemic and the GOP for being more interested in lining their pockets even if it cost 3000,000 deaths.
Your were spot on, its all about the re-election, the setting up of a dynasty and the economy - hence the rump prep-occupation when the DOW rose to 3,000.


People keep calling them deaths related to the pandemic. But let's be real here. How many people die a year anyway? True, there may have been some deaths because of covid. But if you look at the death toll of humans prior to covid you'll find that roughly the same number of people die each year. To alot them to covid only is uninformed and stupid.
 

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People keep calling them deaths related to the pandemic. But let's be real here. How many people die a year anyway? True, there may have been some deaths because of covid. But if you look at the death toll of humans prior to covid you'll find that roughly the same number of people die each year. To alot them to covid only is uninformed and stupid.
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People keep calling them deaths related to the pandemic. But let's be real here. How many people die a year anyway? True, there may have been some deaths because of covid. But if you look at the death toll of humans prior to covid you'll find that roughly the same number of people die each year. To alot them to covid only is uninformed and stupid.
To alot almost three hundred thousand deaths to covid is right, they tested positive, its on the death certificate and its in ADDITION to the usual numbers of deaths caused by flu and old age.
Talk about the uninformed!
 

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People keep calling them deaths related to the pandemic. But let's be real here. How many people die a year anyway? True, there may have been some deaths because of covid. But if you look at the death toll of humans prior to covid you'll find that roughly the same number of people die each year. To alot them to covid only is uninformed and stupid.
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)


Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
 
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Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)


Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

I'm sure if Obama was president he'd be using the correct numbers.

COVID-19 Is Now the Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.
It kills more people than the flu, contrary to Trump’s claims, and also surpasses stroke, Alzheimer’s and diabetes

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To alot almost three hundred thousand deaths to covid is right, they tested positive, its on the death certificate and its in ADDITION to the usual numbers of deaths caused by flu and old age.
Talk about the uninformed!


Not buying out. 2018 8.6 % 2019 8.7% 2020 8.8%. You are failing tp realize that adding covid to a death certificate gives extra money for research.

Now hoo look at how many Americans die from heart disease, cancer, stroke, unintentional death by accident., etc etc...

You keep listening to the wrong news sources and taking everything they say as gospel. There's definitely something lacking in ther mentality of people who do this. Research for yourself tp find the truth. But hey Biden will bs in there soon and will contribute next's years deaths to him. Ha ha.
 

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"Them" meaning the Puritans... or, for that matter, any OTHER European transgressor-invader-"conquistador." History clearly shows us "THEY" never gave a flying fuck about ANY indigenous peoples' laws or rights, written or unwritten, your "show me the law" response, notwithstanding.

All that b.c. has said is true. Some scientists now have concluded that about 60 millions of the indigenous peoples lived in the Americas. Why did the population take such a drastic drop? And when did this drastic drop in indigenous people happen.

This article covers the time from 1492 to somewhere in the 1600s. The issue of what European settlers and their descendants, particularly Andrew Jackson did that was horrible to the Native Americans is not covered in this article or this post as this happened much later in time. There is no excuse for the treatment that the European settlers and their descendants treated the Native Americans in the 1700s and 1800s.

This article is about what happened to the people. I found this fascinating because until I read this article, I thought that there weren't more than a few million indigenous people in the Americas in 1492. I was wrong.

European colonization of the Americas killed 10 percent of world population and caused global cooling.

I found this source that has used scientific methods to make its conclusion that there were about 60 million indigenous people living in the Americas in 1492. What happened to them? Most died from European diseases.

"While Europe was in the early days of the Renaissance, there were empires in the Americas sustaining more than 60 million people. But the first European contact in 1492 brought diseases to the Americas which devastated the native population".

This source concludes that diseases from Europe were the primary cause of such a drastic drop in population in the population of the peoples of the Americas from 1492 until the 1600s. 56 million died from four diseases brought to the Americas from Europe.

Several quotes to consider:

"Europeans brought measles, smallpox, influenza and the bubonic plague across the Atlantic, with devastating consequences for the Indigenous populations."

"multiple waves of epidemics hit Indigenous immune systems that had evolved in isolation from Eurasian and African populations for 13,000 years."


For comparison: Consider some studies believe that the bubonic plague by itself had earlier wiped 30 % of the population of Europe.

"People who didn’t die from smallpox, died from the following wave of influenza. Those who survived that succumbed to measles. Warfare, famine and *colonial atrocities did the rest in the Great Dying." (*Our shame.)

"A figure of 90 percent mortality in post-contact America is extraordinary and exceeds similar epidemics,"

To determine the number of people who lived in the Americas in 1492, scientists used the following figures to arrive at 60 million people living in the Americas in 1492:

"about 10 percent of the landmass of the Americas, had been farmed or under another human use when Columbus arrived. ... Europe 23 percent and in China 20 percent of land had been used by humans at the time."


The article does give other statistics and information.
 

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People keep calling them deaths related to the pandemic. But let's be real here. How many people die a year anyway? True, there may have been some deaths because of covid. But if you look at the death toll of humans prior to covid you'll find that roughly the same number of people die each year. To alot them to covid only is uninformed and stupid.

@Gj816 - Willfully ignorant much?


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Not buying out. 2018 8.6 % 2019 8.7% 2020 8.8%. You are failing tp realize that adding covid to a death certificate gives extra money for research.

Now hoo look at how many Americans die from heart disease, cancer, stroke, unintentional death by accident., etc etc...

You keep listening to the wrong news sources and taking everything they say as gospel. There's definitely something lacking in ther mentality of people who do this. Research for yourself tp find the truth. But hey Biden will bs in there soon and will contribute next's years deaths to him. Ha ha.
Sorry but you have listened to to many conspiracy theories.
And yes, Trump is totally to blame, but like so many other problems he is passing on to Biden Trump will always say "it wasn't me"
 

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Sorry but you have listened to to many conspiracy theories.
And yes, Trump is totally to blame, but like so many other problems he is passing on to Biden Trump will always say "it wasn't me"


Google is your friend. Death rate in the US. Faststats CDC