The thread "speculating about what name RedDude will come back with needs to be locked. While it may not break the LETTER of the TOS, it certainly breaks the spirit of the TOS, and does not look good to prospective new members. LPSG has changed very much from even a year ago, and is not nearly as fun or interesting as it was before. I don't care what Red did or did not do in his suicide thread, but allowing that childish thread to stay up is redonkulous. Ban me if you like over this thread- after all it's only an online messageboard. I can still come on and jerk off to the copious amounts of porn on here.
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Both threads pertaining to RedDude are about to be closed (I was actually loading the page when a certain person whispered me in chat about this thread!)
They have been subject to moderator discussion, which is ongoing and not being helped any by the slow load times we're currently experiencing.
They have been subject to moderator discussion, which is ongoing and not being helped any by the slow load times we're currently experiencing.
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Oh so the slow load is n't just here on my computer. I've been slower here than elsewhere but have been having problems all over the net today. Cleared browser cookies cache thing and it still was slow then went black and then a message came up saying I'd closed incorrectly.
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Not just you...
I'm fine everywhere but here, and I know at least two of the other mods are having the same issue.
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Thats fine with me. course LOADS of thigs break the "spirit of lpsg" and you all do nada about them. 3 members come to mind. But whatevs.
I will respect the mods decision
even of i dont agree.
which i dont
Q? why wasnt subgirrls thread closed when she requested it to be cuz TF40 derailed it? Why was doogie888' closed when he requested it? And the second time cuz we were takin about popcorn? his complaint
ff topic derailment! How many threads have you let go (mods in gen) and even participated in fleshpiles (the very def of off topic, IMHO) as fine, while decideding to close others for lesser things?Not criticising, but generally wondering. There seems little consistency in some of the rulings.
I know you all are volenteers and coming to an agreement must be hard. I dont even know if you all just go by simple majority.
Sorry for any ruckus I caused.
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All decisions are based on a majority vote (aside from obvious minors, spammers and temp thread closures/removals) so there is no way I can sit here and give concrete reasons for each of the examples you give... I honestly can't speak for any other member of the team and tell you why each one voted a certain way on a specific report.
What I say is this:
1. Starting a thread does not give you ownership of the thread, the right to dictate the direction of the thread, or the right to demand it be closed.
2. Not all derailments are a bad thing, neither do they require our intervention.
3. Not all derailment reports are actual derailments and are more about people being pissy that they can't control what others think about the topic, or the natural direction the thread has taken.
4. We have a precedent for closing threads of this nature (the ones mocking RedDude) dating back a good 5 years, possibly more but I can't be sure as I wasn't a moderator prior to that.
5. Fleshpiles are a long standing and sorely missed tradition for LPSG - We should have more of them, in every thread going!
6. A lot goes on "behind the scenes" when we get reports, you aren't always privy to the full picture of what has and hasn't been done by ourselves or the members partaking in the threads. Were PMs reported that were sent from one member to another to further a disagreement that started in a thread? Did we send PMs to tell someone to cool it before we shut a thread down? Is there some history you aren't aware of that could make things more complex that they appear on the surface? There are a lot of things to consider when making a decision, and it isn't always easy...
What I say is this:
1. Starting a thread does not give you ownership of the thread, the right to dictate the direction of the thread, or the right to demand it be closed.
2. Not all derailments are a bad thing, neither do they require our intervention.
3. Not all derailment reports are actual derailments and are more about people being pissy that they can't control what others think about the topic, or the natural direction the thread has taken.
4. We have a precedent for closing threads of this nature (the ones mocking RedDude) dating back a good 5 years, possibly more but I can't be sure as I wasn't a moderator prior to that.
5. Fleshpiles are a long standing and sorely missed tradition for LPSG - We should have more of them, in every thread going!
6. A lot goes on "behind the scenes" when we get reports, you aren't always privy to the full picture of what has and hasn't been done by ourselves or the members partaking in the threads. Were PMs reported that were sent from one member to another to further a disagreement that started in a thread? Did we send PMs to tell someone to cool it before we shut a thread down? Is there some history you aren't aware of that could make things more complex that they appear on the surface? There are a lot of things to consider when making a decision, and it isn't always easy...
For future reference, perhaps report the thread, and post in the thread itself, instead of creating a new thread, referring to another thread that needs to be reported, so that the Mods don't have to go running all over the site trying to find all of the things that need to be closed/discussed?
P.S. Two different computers, two different browsers, two different networks, this is the only site giving me a lag.
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I honestly had no idea that RedDude was banned.
But after seeing the thread where he went bonkers I could see why. Dayum.
But after seeing the thread where he went bonkers I could see why. Dayum.
Perhaps I did, and perhaps by the time I saw it, it had been up for a full day.
When I make a mistake, I step up and admit it.
You're correct. I admit, it was totally my mistake. At the time, it was posted 13 HOURS ago, and the most recent UPDATE was on the same line, and was (then) 13 MINUTES ago. I saw 13 and 13, and registered the MINUTES, and that's why I was wondering, "Then why'd he wait so long to actually report it?", when I got on and had a look this morning.
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RedDude was a troll long before yesterday. His post history was chock full of misogyny and name-calling anytime a woman disagreed with him. His MO was also to then start sending out PMs one never requested. And though he'd stop if you asked him to, he always had to get in his last feeble dig. I don't see anything wrong with a few people blowing off steam when he's finally gone. If anyone is going to insist upon being a crybaby because that hateful whiner finally got the inevitable, they should just go join him if they miss him so much.
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