Okay guys, for the last few days I've been mulling and deliberating about what to do about this nonsense with Jacinto, but I now think it best to go ahead and tell what I think I know.
Jacinto was not real, nor did he die. This person posed as an image for all those years and for whatever reason has decided to no longer post as that character. He led a lot of us on a wild goose chase, and caused a very nasty and devisive argument on the board, for which I am not pleased with my own part. I defended him from what felt like unjust persecution, when it fact it was quite warranted.
I had hoped this would all just die down and go away, but then when KoolKat posted his confession, it became clearer to me that this type of thing is not nearly so unusual as I would have believed and I thought perhaps as a group this was worth talking about. I am of the opinion that we should not promote this type of behavior, and I'm going to use this as my example why. Despite what the perpetrator of the fraud is thinking, the people getting to know that image are investing real emotion, I know more than one of us cried real tears over this "death".
I am now publishing the PMs I exchanged with a member known as Placebo, who along with PontyPete, Dantesco, KidBroTrouble, NoImporta, and probably a few others are also the poster known as Jacinto.
Jacinto, Placebo, NoImporta, PonyPete, jonb and whoever else you are,
Well, I talked to your "father" twice yesterday and he said he never heard of Jacinto OR Diego. The gig is up, sorry. It took me a while, but I found the pattern. You're much better than a lot of people who do this because you actually post more than one place, but I definitely found speech patterns. Still I wasn't sure.
Who was it that first mentioned Diego? I was thinking it was Panthera. That would have made sense that an older member would know Jacinto's brother's name. I did not. Despite our talks, I didn't recall his brother's names. See, I read the post in the help desk about how we'll never know, and you finally wrote enough that I was sure. I was so happy! Then I searched your posts and read every one. Your first post was the one where Diego was mentioned! Now, what kind of moron would join an online forum after hearing of a friend's death, not introduce HIMSELF, and tell "Diego" to just let him know when and where, and he'd be there! Did you really think that didn't look weird? How would Diego know who "Placebo" (nice touch) was when you had only joined moments before! The clincher was the join date- the same date "Jacinto" "Died". I laughed so hard I almost shit my pants, honestly! I felt like I was watching Angel Heart and I just got to the end and found out I was the devil. This was a pretty good plot twist.
Facts- I didn't always tell Jacinto when I'd be calling, he just asked me to call on the weekends when he'd be at his "parent's" house. That was you. Maybe you're in college away from home during the week. There was never a time when I called that you weren't there, so you couldn't have been a casual visitor. I remember your dad yelling at you "Get off the damned phone, write a letter!" We laughed so hard because he had no idea how much we write! Anyway, that was the same guy I talked to yesterday.
You speak several different languages, it would be no problem for you to speak like Ricky Ricardo for me, or like some white guy's son the rest of the time.
I respected Jacinto too, I know you know that. I still got the best blowjob advice I ever got from anyone from him, and believe me I'm grateful. If he was a fabrication, he made no less impact. BUT, if he was around your house frequently enough to take my unexpected phone calls, your father would have known his first name!
Oh god, it does all make sense now. I think you DID tell me you went to your parent's home in Shreveport on the weekends, you said it wasn't as good as New Orleans, but it was better than the little town that wasn't Jena where you were teaching. That's where I heard of Shreveport before.
Your profile says your 42. If you didn't want to get caught, why would you make such obvious mistakes, and why post your real hometown after you went so far out of your way to protect it? I think you're getting tired. That's okay, and I really am not going to make this public news. This site may still have some value when it's all said and done, we'll have to wait and see. I won't be the one to bring it tumbling down.
I don't need you to verify this, it's as clear as it could be. If you ever felt bad for making me cry, you could explain why you did it someday. Until then, I'll assume this conversation is over.
Your friend, Jana
ps. your grammar and spelling are as flawless as always.
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Originally Posted by Placebo
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Originally Posted by madame_zora
I figured out that I talked to you on the phone last night. You can probably fill in the rest.
There is a call on ID that says UNKNOWN CALLER. I assume that was you.
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To make it really fukcing simple, I've been calling "Jacinto" at YOUR house- what do you make of that?????
At my father's house, to be more precise. I make quite a lot of that because I do happen to be a lot closer to Jacinto and his family than I've let on at the board. But I know what you're implying and that's your prerogative. I know he lived and I know he died.
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All I really want to know is why did you send me on a wild goose chase after jonb, he probably doesn't exist either, right? jonboi?
I have to assume that jonb exists because Jacinto, the real Jacinto, told me that he met jonb while he was in California. I had been reading Jon's posts since I first logged onto LPSG seven years ago. I had been reading Jacinto's posts for some time before I realized that I knew the poster making them.
I have no beef with you. I actually appreciate your posts. I don't care for someone making assumptions about who I am, but I do respect your right to your own opinions. If you want to believe I'm Jacinto, by all means, do so. But please realize that your beliefs don't affect my reality. I have no desire to be the lived and I respect his memory now.aken for someone that I'm not regardless of the respect that I hold for that someone. I respected Jacinto while
I hope the order of that makes enough sense, but it's blue, red, then purple. I go no further response.
Further, the poster known as jonb, who was supposedly in Berkley last year and mysteriously stopped posting- yeah, the same jonb that Kidbrotrouble asked me to find to tell of Jacinto's death- He was in Dayton fucking Ohio! Yes, the same shitty little Dayton Ohio That I lived in all last year. I don't know if he met me in real life, but he sure as hell knew I was there, and he sure as hell stopped posting about six weeks after I left. Coincidence, perhaps, until I considered how many times Jacinto egged on my curiousity about him. He kept telling me how gorgeous jonb was, and after he stopped posting, Jacinto bugged me a couple times about if I knew where he was. I think now that he knew jonb was in Dayton and wanted me to find out.
Anyway, here are some links to the person behind the fraud. To Dee and Monty, I hope I have made sufficient apologies, but I would like to offer them publicly as well. While I defended what I thought was a friend, in the end I helped a very sick person continue his masquerade.
*links edited for privacy reasons
Now, I found these things pretty easily, so I don't know if they're really him or another front, but now you know what I know. Sorry for all the trouble guys, I wish I had read the signs better.
Jacinto was not real, nor did he die. This person posed as an image for all those years and for whatever reason has decided to no longer post as that character. He led a lot of us on a wild goose chase, and caused a very nasty and devisive argument on the board, for which I am not pleased with my own part. I defended him from what felt like unjust persecution, when it fact it was quite warranted.
I had hoped this would all just die down and go away, but then when KoolKat posted his confession, it became clearer to me that this type of thing is not nearly so unusual as I would have believed and I thought perhaps as a group this was worth talking about. I am of the opinion that we should not promote this type of behavior, and I'm going to use this as my example why. Despite what the perpetrator of the fraud is thinking, the people getting to know that image are investing real emotion, I know more than one of us cried real tears over this "death".
I am now publishing the PMs I exchanged with a member known as Placebo, who along with PontyPete, Dantesco, KidBroTrouble, NoImporta, and probably a few others are also the poster known as Jacinto.
Jacinto, Placebo, NoImporta, PonyPete, jonb and whoever else you are,
Well, I talked to your "father" twice yesterday and he said he never heard of Jacinto OR Diego. The gig is up, sorry. It took me a while, but I found the pattern. You're much better than a lot of people who do this because you actually post more than one place, but I definitely found speech patterns. Still I wasn't sure.
Who was it that first mentioned Diego? I was thinking it was Panthera. That would have made sense that an older member would know Jacinto's brother's name. I did not. Despite our talks, I didn't recall his brother's names. See, I read the post in the help desk about how we'll never know, and you finally wrote enough that I was sure. I was so happy! Then I searched your posts and read every one. Your first post was the one where Diego was mentioned! Now, what kind of moron would join an online forum after hearing of a friend's death, not introduce HIMSELF, and tell "Diego" to just let him know when and where, and he'd be there! Did you really think that didn't look weird? How would Diego know who "Placebo" (nice touch) was when you had only joined moments before! The clincher was the join date- the same date "Jacinto" "Died". I laughed so hard I almost shit my pants, honestly! I felt like I was watching Angel Heart and I just got to the end and found out I was the devil. This was a pretty good plot twist.
Facts- I didn't always tell Jacinto when I'd be calling, he just asked me to call on the weekends when he'd be at his "parent's" house. That was you. Maybe you're in college away from home during the week. There was never a time when I called that you weren't there, so you couldn't have been a casual visitor. I remember your dad yelling at you "Get off the damned phone, write a letter!" We laughed so hard because he had no idea how much we write! Anyway, that was the same guy I talked to yesterday.
You speak several different languages, it would be no problem for you to speak like Ricky Ricardo for me, or like some white guy's son the rest of the time.
I respected Jacinto too, I know you know that. I still got the best blowjob advice I ever got from anyone from him, and believe me I'm grateful. If he was a fabrication, he made no less impact. BUT, if he was around your house frequently enough to take my unexpected phone calls, your father would have known his first name!
Oh god, it does all make sense now. I think you DID tell me you went to your parent's home in Shreveport on the weekends, you said it wasn't as good as New Orleans, but it was better than the little town that wasn't Jena where you were teaching. That's where I heard of Shreveport before.
Your profile says your 42. If you didn't want to get caught, why would you make such obvious mistakes, and why post your real hometown after you went so far out of your way to protect it? I think you're getting tired. That's okay, and I really am not going to make this public news. This site may still have some value when it's all said and done, we'll have to wait and see. I won't be the one to bring it tumbling down.
I don't need you to verify this, it's as clear as it could be. If you ever felt bad for making me cry, you could explain why you did it someday. Until then, I'll assume this conversation is over.
Your friend, Jana
ps. your grammar and spelling are as flawless as always.
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Originally Posted by Placebo
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Originally Posted by madame_zora
I figured out that I talked to you on the phone last night. You can probably fill in the rest.
There is a call on ID that says UNKNOWN CALLER. I assume that was you.
Quote:
To make it really fukcing simple, I've been calling "Jacinto" at YOUR house- what do you make of that?????
At my father's house, to be more precise. I make quite a lot of that because I do happen to be a lot closer to Jacinto and his family than I've let on at the board. But I know what you're implying and that's your prerogative. I know he lived and I know he died.
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All I really want to know is why did you send me on a wild goose chase after jonb, he probably doesn't exist either, right? jonboi?
I have to assume that jonb exists because Jacinto, the real Jacinto, told me that he met jonb while he was in California. I had been reading Jon's posts since I first logged onto LPSG seven years ago. I had been reading Jacinto's posts for some time before I realized that I knew the poster making them.
I have no beef with you. I actually appreciate your posts. I don't care for someone making assumptions about who I am, but I do respect your right to your own opinions. If you want to believe I'm Jacinto, by all means, do so. But please realize that your beliefs don't affect my reality. I have no desire to be the lived and I respect his memory now.aken for someone that I'm not regardless of the respect that I hold for that someone. I respected Jacinto while
I hope the order of that makes enough sense, but it's blue, red, then purple. I go no further response.
Further, the poster known as jonb, who was supposedly in Berkley last year and mysteriously stopped posting- yeah, the same jonb that Kidbrotrouble asked me to find to tell of Jacinto's death- He was in Dayton fucking Ohio! Yes, the same shitty little Dayton Ohio That I lived in all last year. I don't know if he met me in real life, but he sure as hell knew I was there, and he sure as hell stopped posting about six weeks after I left. Coincidence, perhaps, until I considered how many times Jacinto egged on my curiousity about him. He kept telling me how gorgeous jonb was, and after he stopped posting, Jacinto bugged me a couple times about if I knew where he was. I think now that he knew jonb was in Dayton and wanted me to find out.
Anyway, here are some links to the person behind the fraud. To Dee and Monty, I hope I have made sufficient apologies, but I would like to offer them publicly as well. While I defended what I thought was a friend, in the end I helped a very sick person continue his masquerade.
*links edited for privacy reasons
Now, I found these things pretty easily, so I don't know if they're really him or another front, but now you know what I know. Sorry for all the trouble guys, I wish I had read the signs better.
And a few other select people I talk to. So jonb was made up too? :OI just ate a sandwich called 'Chicken New Orleans' btw, tasted like shit.
