The Mona Lisa

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warmhorizon said:
Just a really quick rant here but: Has anyone on here actually SEEN the real Mona Lisa and if so what did they think?

Yes, I have seen it, but not quite close up. Being short as I am did not help. The protective cover in front of it reflected some light from the window (? - it was some 20 years ago) made it worse. I hope they have changed the protective glass to the non-reflective type by now.

After some 5 minutes of trying to see it, I left to admire other artifacts in the museum.
 

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Stronzo said:
Now that is one experience over which I'm truly envious. I've only glimpsed the phenomenon of which you speak through the lens of the National Geographic Society. I can only imagine.

I had wanted to go since I first saw a photo when I was teenager. I first went just as UNTAC were setting up shop and lets say the situation in the country was 'fluid'. I was in Malaysia when I heard that visas could be....'acquired' and no way was I missing out on that chance.

Sadly the last time I went, Siem Reap (nearest main town) was more like Costa del Cambodia than than the Cambodia I fell in love with, but that's progress, so they tell me. Plus for the first time I had to pay and it cost me $80 to get in...but still worth every cent.:rolleyes:

Borobudur is reminicent, smaller but no less inspring. I have still to visit Bagan and I'd love to see the plain of jars. One day without doubt.

Imagination barely scratches the surface...:smile:
 

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Stronzo said:
The only 'view' I enjoyed was the tour group of Swedish high school boys who seemed to enjoy how fucking much I was cruising them...:cool:

lol!

Way to make lemonade out of lemons, stronz. :rolleyes:

As for me, I've yet to tour any of the art museums of Europe. Someday.

I did see a collection of Monet's best works during a U.S. tour stop in Portland. I thought they all lived up to their billing as magnificent works of a master.

Biggest art gallery surprise I ever encountered? Glad you asked. It was the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum in Oklahoma City.

http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org/

I thought it would be filled with tacky kitsch like John Wayne's jockstrap or Clint Eastwood's boots or some such but I was pleasantly surprised to see it chock full of quality paintings, murals, photos and western themed sculpture. Its worth a look if you ever pass by there.
 

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leonardo14.JPG


versus

leonardo7.JPG


A better comparison is here

Personal opinion? I don't think so.

But he might have been gay, anyway.
 

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ClaireTalon said:
I've seen the Centre Pompidou, and the Musée d'Orsay, which reflect my taste in arts way better than the Louvre. They're also less haunted by tour groups, which is always a plus for me. I hate to visit a place where I'm surrounded by tons of tourists babbling.

Yes, if at the d'Orsay...go directly to the top floor. Most beautiful works of the 19th c and maybe ever created are located there. They also have a nice restraunt that is a copy of a Bque./Rococo design. It is enjoyable and should not be missed.

As for Mona Lisa. Part of understanding the painting is to understand something of the artist. It is also a pop culture reference. I really enjoyed seeing it. I think the one on display is a copy...but just for preservation of the painting. The picture is fun to see because it is famous for being famous too. It really became famous, becasue many years agao it kept getting stolen. It became a running joke of the time period. That history is lost to the modern audience but the fame remained.

Also, when you go to a muesum...try to get a headset. It really gives music and background of the art/artisit and makes the trip worth the while because it establishes mood and background and context. Just to walk in and take a quick look at art often leaves the viewer nonplussed
 

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excellent Cube.. just excellent. Thanks.

'famous for being famous'! That's exactly right. I want to be your friend. That whole post is inspired.

It's like calling the Mona Lisa Paris Hilton!!:tongue:

By the way... look at the number of that last post of yours!!:eek:

spooooooooookay!
 

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highly overrated and i'm taking as an art student :D

maybe the most famous Leonard work, but not the brightest one...

i think is just a matter of taste... i preferr something less famouse that fit my tastes better :D

btw is a masterpiece, envelopoed in shroud of mistery. that's her fortune and her misfortune ^^ and that's why she's so famous *_*

come to Florence or Rome and u will see a lot more still located in their original places :p
 

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palicao said:
highly overrated and i'm taking as an art student :D
:eek: sporco traditore italiano!!! :tongue:

maybe the most famous Leonard work, but not the brightest one...
Mi piace moltissimo che in inglese hai scritto "Leonard"!!:biggrin1: Molto divertente!!

i think is just a matter of taste... i preferr something less famouse that fit my tastes better :D
per esempio? Forse il mio pisello americano sarebbe meno famoso??:wink:


come to Florence or Rome and u will see a lot more still located in their original places :p
SENZA ALCUN DUBBIO!! Adesso stai scrivendo la verità il mio amico carino. Ma hai dimenticato la mia città preferita: Venezia!

God how I love that you call "Leonardo" ... "Leonard" Somehow that brings him right down to human dimension eh?
 

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Stronzo said:
:eek: sporco traditore italiano!!! :tongue:

ROFL


Stronzo said:
Mi piace moltissimo che in inglese hai scritto "Leonard"!!:biggrin1: Molto divertente!!

and what about if i call Michelangelo as Michael LOL

btw i forgot Venice, that's true. plenty of wonderful things there too, even if the cultural and artistic center of that period was the Florence-Rome axis :biggrin1:

I'm in love with Pontormo btw... if u ever go to Florence don't miss his Deposition in St.Feliticita church, is... i don't know... astonishing O_O
 

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I was at the Louve back in April...it was nice there was alot of ppl around the Mona Lisa and we tried to get a pic of it but the guards were like hawks. We then went to see the Virgin on the Rocks
 

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Strangely enough most fantastic work of art I have ever seen is the collection of megalithic golden Goddesses in one of the shrines in Nikko, Japan. It's not even a museum, it's an actual temple, but the craftsmanship is absolutely amazing! They look brand new!
I managed to find a picture of one of them, but it doesn't do it justice size wise. I actually had to look almost straight upwards to see the tops of them!
I also found a picture of the monkey carving from the Shinkyusha, next to Toshogu shrine, which surprised me as it is the very first See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil thing and I always believed it to be a Christian creation.
Well, you learn something new every day eh?
 

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palicao said:
I'm in love with Pontormo btw... if u ever go to Florence don't miss his Deposition in St.Feliticita church, is... i don't know... astonishing O_O

I don't know it palicao (purtroppo) but I'll take your word for it and make sure I do!

My great great great grandfather was an American "scultore" in Firenze and worked during the "Garibaldi" period of the 1860s and 70s in his studio on the via guelfa in Firenze for twenty years after being wounded at Antietam (American Civil War battle).

He went to Europe to "regain his health" and in the process stayed twenty years and produced signifcant sculpture. He married only upon his return to the States. I've only been to Florence once and the thing that stands out in my mind most are Michelangelo's sculptures lining the entryway at the Galleria dell' Accademia heading toward "il Davide" where they are emerging from rock.

Michelangelo once when asked what he was doing after spending hours looking at these very stones said "sto lavorando"! Do you know the story?

I'm very glad you're here! :smile:


Questo?

http://www.bergerfoundation.ch/Jardin/images/rouge/IMG_SMALL40.jpg
 

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Stronzo said:
excellent Cube.. just excellent. Thanks.

'famous for being famous'! That's exactly right. I want to be your friend. That whole post is inspired.

It's like calling the Mona Lisa Paris Hilton!!:tongue:

By the way... look at the number of that last post of yours!!:eek:

spooooooooookay!

So funny, I almost used P. Hilton as an example. So many types of art in the world...both historic and new..it is like comparing apples and oranges. It takes all of it to really to make pieces unique. Since this post...I thought about Paris all day...but I confess I was mainly thinking about the desserts. Thanks Stonzo...back at you
 

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Stronzo said:

yes!
but, belive me, not a single reproduction can match the vibrant color it has :D
like neon color hehehe

i certain case the difference between a reproduction an the real piece is, if not totally accurate, at least comparable in some way.

in this case, there is no way. to match that coulors u have to use pantone's color *_*

that's why i like mannersim lol
 

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Da Vinci's best portrait of a woman is undoubtedly Lady with an Ermine in Krakow. The photo in the above link doesn't do it justice but it's quite spectacular. I was at the museum on a Saturday and spent 5 minutes looking at it without another tourist in sight. If you're a Da Viinci fan, it's a must see.
 
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