The (nearly) surefire way to tell if a porn star/influencer is actually gay or just gay-for-pay/straight

[Randomized]

The method is actually very easy.

Step 1: Check to see if they have their own OnlyFans account.
Step 2: If the content they post on their Onlyfans is mainly them having anal sex, blowjobs, rimming, etc. with other men, then they are very likely gay/bi. If their content is mainly thirst trap photos, naked pics, masturbation or them using sex toys, "bromance" content or content that is vaguely homoerotic and lewd but not pornographic, then they are straight. (Obviously if they post content with woman, they are probably straight as well).

I've noticed after seeing that many porn stars create their own onlyfans, that the openly gay/bi ones are constantly having gay sex while the gay-for-pay or straight identifying ones had less explicit content, but still wanted to appeal to that same demographic. The same pattern is also found when looking at celebs, models, and other famous people who also have onlyfans.

Now I know what you're thinking. There are straight men who do have gay sex in gay porn, so why wouldn't straight men also have gay sex on onlyfans? At first, I didn't understand why, but I think I've got a satisfying explanation. It makes sense if you think of porn star as an independent contractor, while creating an onlyfans is like creating a business. Porn stars (especially if they are straight) want easy and quick money.They want to get hired, work for 1 or 2 days, and get paid thousands immediately. Porn stars don't have to worry about anything else. They don't have to negotiate payments of everyone involved, they don't worry about flight or hotel rooms, invest in good cameras, worry about lighting or editing the video, or doing any marketing at all. If you start your own onlyfans, you can potentially get more money, but you must do everything yourself. It's a lot of hard work and it's time consuming, which means it's not fast and easy money anymore.

Gay men might do this regardless of the hard work because they're having gay sex anyway, so why not monetize it. But straight men don't actually want to have gay sex in the first place so it's a much harder ask to get them to put in all that work. It's much easier to do solo content like masturbation and dick pics, because that doesn't require much extra effort and you don't have to pay anyone.

Don't forget. Onlyfans profit isn't guaranteed. Straight men want quick and easy money for having gay sex, not to work for long hours to potentially get very little reward.

Caveats:
1. There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. I can name a few gay-for-pay porn stars off the top of my head who have their own OF and fuck other men on a consistent basis. But this is not particularly common.
2. Gay-for-Pay actors will sometimes fuck a man on another person's onlyfans. It's more common for a straight man to do that because they are getting paid by the owner of the onlyfans. It's more akin to the porn work because they might not need to get involved in the shooting/editing etc. and they could get paid upfront.
3. Sometimes companies will manage a performers onlyfans and take a cut. This takes a lot of the work out of onlyfans, but the performer gets less control and less profit. This is why it's so crucial to know if the porn star is doing the scenes on an onlyfans page that they manage, or if they are appearing on another persons page.

 

[bigboaster]

It can't be a "nearly surefire way" if multiple exceptions exist though lol. ijs. I think this theory is decent but a bit half baked. The easiest way to "know" a porn stars sexuality is to just accept whatever label they desire. Personally I don't think a performer's "real sexuality" should have any merit on their content. Who cares.

 

[Randomized]

It can't be a "nearly surefire way" if multiple exceptions exist though lol. ijs. I think this theory is decent but a bit half baked. The easiest way to "know" a porn stars sexuality is to just accept whatever label they desire. Personally I don't think a performer's "real sexuality" should have any merit on their content. Who cares.

I never said that it was an absolute rule, just a pattern i've noticed over time. Considering that i've seen content from hundreds of guys onlyfans, with only a handful of exceptions I'd say it is one of the more accurate ways of determining it. Don't forget, not everyone reveals their sexuality on social media, especially when there's money to be made by keeping it quiet. So you can't always tell who is what.

If you don't believe me, then test for yourself. Find your favorite pornstar that's confirmed Gay-for-pay, and see what kind of content their making on their onlyfans. Chances are really good that you wont find a lot of gay sex.

 

[adeob111]

This is an interesting conversation, and I have to say...when I think about the guys I've subbed on OF...your assessment is pretty much spot on. Really, I've never cared much about the true sexual orientation of the guys I use for my porn fix--but I find it neat how this lines up with things I've kinda noticed over the years.

 

[Dr_Feelgood_LV]

Easy. When they fuck only women and/or their wife/girlfriend IRL (or never show anything besides themselves on OF) outside of porn or sex work. A true gay man can never be paid enough to do otherwise, if they can even manage to get hard and maintain it for pussy and eat it with full gusto to begin with. Lol. If they do fuck (and date!) both men and women outside of work for pure pleasure without requiring to be paid, they're true bisexuals, which is truly rare in my experience. Most people who do dabble in some bi-activity have very specific sexual stuff that they seek from those homosexual acts that they usually couldn't get from women easily or at all, and that makes their thing more of a fetish than a genuine sexual orientation in which they'd actually also seek emotional connection and possible serious committed relationships with their same-sex partners they really like, which again is indeed rare. So the more appropriate term for such "physical pleasure seeking only bi men" is "heteroflexible/bility" that i consider more of a fetish or sexual inclination that is very much distinguishable from true bisexuality by the absence of same-sex sexual/emotional attraction and deeper interest into the partner beyond the sexual acts, which should be the defining hallmark of homo/bisexuality. True bisexuality is so rare that it doesn't surprise me why a lot of gay guys actually doubt its genuine existence while most straight men who do dabble in gay acts whether it be in exchange for pay or not still identify as straight because their dabbling is truly just optional as opposed to pussy being essential to them like it's air and water. They would even pay for pussy the same way we are willing to pay for porn, OF or sex from them if we think it's worth the price to get what they're willing to offer in exchange.

Heteroflexibles, on the other hand, have as their hallmark the ability to be attracted to the specific homosexual act/s only that's part of their fetish without having any sexual/physical attraction to, and much less any emotional desire for any deeper connection with their gay partners. I don't even need to ask them about these specifics because they're something you just feel intuitively, that there is just no way this could ever lead to cuddling and talking about each others' hopes and dreams after the sex and more, which is more often than not just you sucking their dicks like nobody's business (lol) and like their girls could never give them, even as they couldn't live without them.

You know how and why I'm so sure about these findings after my extensive experience with them? It's because I realized that I'm their mirror opposite.: I'm a homoflexible. I'm gay and am only sexually/emotionally attracted to (masculine) men but have a particular fetish for straight men while also being open to playing with their girls in a threesome and actually LOVE eating pussy. But do I seek women by themselves and even date them? Heck no. In fact, most of these men would rather have a girl with us or me in drag or wearing pantyhose and shit like those lol, if those options were available. That is why I couldn't call myself a true bisexual the same way those guys couldn't see themselves as being other than straight guys who are just open-minded and occasionally (usually rarely);seek something specific in gay men that their women couldn't offer/do well or just refuse to do, or that they don't have the courage or real option to open up about with their women (like getting pegged, rimmed or ass-fingered).. Or in the case of the professional sex workers, could only do it for pay.

 

[Dr_Feelgood_LV]

It can't be a "nearly surefire way" if multiple exceptions exist though lol. ijs. I think this theory is decent but a bit half baked. The easiest way to "know" a porn stars sexuality is to just accept whatever label they desire. Personally I don't think a performer's "real sexuality" should have any merit on their content. Who cares.

Really, though, sexual orientation can still be reliably defined by how we've always defined it and that's simply by what gender/sex the sexual/emotional attraction is directed towards. If it's towards the opposite of what is considered yours, it's hetero and so on. As I discussed above, however, SEXUAL ACTIVITIES by humans in themselves are determined by so much more than just our innate sexual orientations. We have fetishes and other proclivities that couldn't possibly be defined and limited by our principal sexual driving forces geared towards biological procreation alone that in itself is also subverted by the existence of same-sex attraction that occurs all throughout the animal kingdom with no exception and seems to be a hindrance to that primal imperative, at least superficially and as far as our current understanding of genomics, biological evolution and evolutionary psychology goes.

Bottom line is that our old-school terms (i.e. straight, gay, bi) are far from being adequate and complete representations of the whole breadth, spectrum and variation within human sexuality (which is a separate topic from gender identity, and that in itself is its own complex animal lol) in our verbal language, the connotations and the commonplace understanding associated with them even as their traditional main defining characteristics remain to be true and valid for and within their original contexts and senses as I illustrated for our basic sexual orientation, which I think is actually pretty simple and the most stable aspect of it all. What complicates and confuses us are all the other stuff we seek on top of it because the most basic stuff is just, well, basic and boring to a lot of us.

 

[Dr_Feelgood_LV]

Oh BTW, you guys wanted to know how you could test if a guy is really straight? It's the dumbest and easiest method ever but it never fails. Lol. Show them or find out if they're into girl-on-girl porn (here again, I don't consider this subgenre that's specifically geared towards straight men - their own L4P lol - true lesbian porn except if the performers identify as gay IRL and exclusively/preferably do scenes only with girls, but even then it's not the same as porn made by lesbians for lesbians.) Lmao, I know it's hilarious and ironic (but that's again the weird and fantastic human sexuality for you -- watching homosexual acts done by their own objects of desire turns straight men on). But it's the most foolproof litmus test for guy straightness ever that I've also determined through decades of interaction with them (even most of my best friends are straight guys). Even if it's not their main thing, all of them will at least get a semiboner from just seeing it if not a full hard on lol. But let me know if you even know one gay guy who does NOT get disgusted/nauseated, let alone get turned on by it. Lol. So it's at the very least a reliable gayboi detector. And there's no way their body language can't betray them, although straight men will likely comment something funny or their approval right away with no hesitation, and then everyone gets over it. If they show annoyance or have to think about what to say, then change the subject and comment something unnecessarily harsh or serious like societal misogyny and sexual abuse of women in porn and the #metoo movement...hmm lol.

I remember having a regular fuck buddy who was the typical truck-driving blue-collar macho guy who worked the oil fields in ND, had a girlfriend whose pussy he loved talking about because he said she liked to put nice fruity flavors and stuff in it lol, and he loved her more than anything in thr world. There was no way he would leave her for anything. But he had a fetish for lacy panties and pantyhose. Something about their textures turned him on. So he wanted to see and feel me in them and also to wear them for himself. I don't even like lace and panties and anything feminine (and yet I'm the gay one lol) and here he was so happy and content that he found somebody who was comfortable with him and allowed him without any judgment all the freedom to explore his sexual fantasies no one else knew he was into. But he also could only get off to girl porn, no guys and dick in sight allowed in his phone whatsoever. And yet he loved playing with me and fucking me and everything I did to him. That was actually one of the major times that it CLICKED for me after my initial confusion, but it took months for me to finally realize what it was all about because it was the exact same pattern in all the others. They alll just had different stuff they were into but they had all the same stable constsnts. And I was supposed to be the "queer" one lol. I feel so square and boring compared to a lot of them actually.

 

[chocchub]

I remember having a regular fuck buddy who was the typical truck-driving blue-collar macho guy who worked the oil fields in ND, had a girlfriend

How would you personally classify him? Bi?

 

[Ehame]

TL;DR

 

[MilfBanger78]

Dr feelgood makes some good points.

I make about half my income from Onlyfans/chaturbate...mostly doing it solo so of course 90% of the fanbase is gay/bi...i dont classify myself as bi, i do have a big-cock fetish hence why Im here lol.. I dont really consider it gay for pay per se (poetry lol) cuz I do play with guys too, orally.

 

[dfw051980]

For gay pride month I unfollowed all straight or gay baiting / teasers (with the exception of one cause he’s nice and hot).
Only my gay fam gets my nut this month.

 

[deleted13334721]

The method is actually very easy.

Step 1: Check to see if they have their own OnlyFans account.
Step 2: If the content they post on their Onlyfans is mainly them having anal sex, blowjobs, rimming, etc. with other men, then they are very likely gay/bi. If their content is mainly thirst trap photos, naked pics, masturbation or them using sex toys, "bromance" content or content that is vaguely homoerotic and lewd but not pornographic, then they are straight. (Obviously if they post content with woman, they are probably straight as well).

I've noticed after seeing that many porn stars create their own onlyfans, that the openly gay/bi ones are constantly having gay sex while the gay-for-pay or straight identifying ones had less explicit content, but still wanted to appeal to that same demographic. The same pattern is also found when looking at celebs, models, and other famous people who also have onlyfans.

Now I know what you're thinking. There are straight men who do have gay sex in gay porn, so why wouldn't straight men also have gay sex on onlyfans? At first, I didn't understand why, but I think I've got a satisfying explanation. It makes sense if you think of porn star as an independent contractor, while creating an onlyfans is like creating a business. Porn stars (especially if they are straight) want easy and quick money.They want to get hired, work for 1 or 2 days, and get paid thousands immediately. Porn stars don't have to worry about anything else. They don't have to negotiate payments of everyone involved, they don't worry about flight or hotel rooms, invest in good cameras, worry about lighting or editing the video, or doing any marketing at all. If you start your own onlyfans, you can potentially get more money, but you must do everything yourself. It's a lot of hard work and it's time consuming, which means it's not fast and easy money anymore.

Gay men might do this regardless of the hard work because they're having gay sex anyway, so why not monetize it. But straight men don't actually want to have gay sex in the first place so it's a much harder ask to get them to put in all that work. It's much easier to do solo content like masturbation and dick pics, because that doesn't require much extra effort and you don't have to pay anyone.

Don't forget. Onlyfans profit isn't guaranteed. Straight men want quick and easy money for having gay sex, not to work for long hours to potentially get very little reward.

Caveats:
1. There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. I can name a few gay-for-pay porn stars off the top of my head who have their own OF and fuck other men on a consistent basis. But this is not particularly common.
2. Gay-for-Pay actors will sometimes fuck a man on another person's onlyfans. It's more common for a straight man to do that because they are getting paid by the owner of the onlyfans. It's more akin to the porn work because they might not need to get involved in the shooting/editing etc. and they could get paid upfront.
3. Sometimes companies will manage a performers onlyfans and take a cut. This takes a lot of the work out of onlyfans, but the performer gets less control and less profit. This is why it's so crucial to know if the porn star is doing the scenes on an onlyfans page that they manage, or if they are appearing on another persons page.

My dude..porn studio aren't paying thousands though. The black studios are paying $500 and the white ones $800-$1000 a shoot. That money can be made on a good night as a bartender. I don't buy this "gay for pay" thing but maybe that's just me huh?

 

[MilfBanger78]

My dude..porn studio aren't paying thousands though. The black studios are paying $500 and the white ones $800-$1000 a shoot. That money can be made on a good night as a bartender. I don't buy this "gay for pay" thing but maybe that's just me huh?

True, studios aint paying much for males, never have, and its sporadic... maybe 5-6 shoots per month, less now since onlyfans has taken over... the old porn model of biz is dying out..... I've watched "gay for pay" guys make $300-400 a night on chaturbate after they have put the work in to build their base for a while...I've made $200 on cam a few times and a big onlyfans base... I used to make $100-200 a night bouncing at bars but then you gotta be around a bunch of drunk trash every night lol. It really depends on your lifestyle

 

[Blue027]

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The method is actually very easy.

Step 1: Check to see if they have their own OnlyFans account.
Step 2: If the content they post on their Onlyfans is mainly them having anal sex, blowjobs, rimming, etc. with other men, then they are very likely gay/bi. If their content is mainly thirst trap photos, naked pics, masturbation or them using sex toys, "bromance" content or content that is vaguely homoerotic and lewd but not pornographic, then they are straight. (Obviously if they post content with woman, they are probably straight as well).

I've noticed after seeing that many porn stars create their own onlyfans, that the openly gay/bi ones are constantly having gay sex while the gay-for-pay or straight identifying ones had less explicit content, but still wanted to appeal to that same demographic. The same pattern is also found when looking at celebs, models, and other famous people who also have onlyfans.

Now I know what you're thinking. There are straight men who do have gay sex in gay porn, so why wouldn't straight men also have gay sex on onlyfans? At first, I didn't understand why, but I think I've got a satisfying explanation. It makes sense if you think of porn star as an independent contractor, while creating an onlyfans is like creating a business. Porn stars (especially if they are straight) want easy and quick money.They want to get hired, work for 1 or 2 days, and get paid thousands immediately. Porn stars don't have to worry about anything else. They don't have to negotiate payments of everyone involved, they don't worry about flight or hotel rooms, invest in good cameras, worry about lighting or editing the video, or doing any marketing at all. If you start your own onlyfans, you can potentially get more money, but you must do everything yourself. It's a lot of hard work and it's time consuming, which means it's not fast and easy money anymore.

Gay men might do this regardless of the hard work because they're having gay sex anyway, so why not monetize it. But straight men don't actually want to have gay sex in the first place so it's a much harder ask to get them to put in all that work. It's much easier to do solo content like masturbation and dick pics, because that doesn't require much extra effort and you don't have to pay anyone.

Don't forget. Onlyfans profit isn't guaranteed. Straight men want quick and easy money for having gay sex, not to work for long hours to potentially get very little reward.

Caveats:
1. There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. I can name a few gay-for-pay porn stars off the top of my head who have their own OF and fuck other men on a consistent basis. But this is not particularly common.
2. Gay-for-Pay actors will sometimes fuck a man on another person's onlyfans. It's more common for a straight man to do that because they are getting paid by the owner of the onlyfans. It's more akin to the porn work because they might not need to get involved in the shooting/editing etc. and they could get paid upfront.
3. Sometimes companies will manage a performers onlyfans and take a cut. This takes a lot of the work out of onlyfans, but the performer gets less control and less profit. This is why it's so crucial to know if the porn star is doing the scenes on an onlyfans page that they manage, or if they are appearing on another persons page.

Not actually true, I think some do the second thing without any straight scenese and have a boyfriend

 

[Blue027]

My dude..porn studio aren't paying thousands though. The black studios are paying $500 and the white ones $800-$1000 a shoot. That money can be made on a good night as a bartender. I don't buy this "gay for pay" thing but maybe that's just me huh?

The only kind of "gay for pay" that I actually believe is the drug junkies doing it for money for drugs, they have a problem and are so obsessed with drugs that they would do things that they find repulsive just to feed their addiction cuz not taking the drugs makes them physically ill. Most "gay for pay" guys arent like that though, you cant tell me that having gay sex on camera is the only way they can make some cash not to starve, many of them have their own house and nice cars, "gay for pay" my ass, they are just bi and ashamed of it (although doing porn should be more shaming than that so I dont understand their stupid logic, maybe they think that they are not really a man if they are gay/bi or something, dunno, most of them arent very bright) and it's not like doing gay porn makes you rich.

 

[deleted13334721]

True, studios aint paying much for males, never have, and its sporadic... maybe 5-6 shoots per month, less now since onlyfans has taken over... the old porn model of biz is dying out..... I've watched "gay for pay" guys make $300-400 a night on chaturbate after they have put the work in to build their base for a while...I've made $200 on cam a few times and a big onlyfans base... I used to make $100-200 a night bouncing at bars but then you gotta be around a bunch of drunk trash every night lol. It really depends on your life

The only kind of "gay for pay" that I actually believe is the drug junkies doing it for money for drugs, they have a problem and are so obsessed with drugs that they would do things that they find repulsive just to feed their addiction cuz not taking the drugs makes them physically ill. Most "gay for pay" guys arent like that though, you cant tell me that having gay sex on camera is the only way they can make some cash not to starve, many of them have their own house and nice cars, "gay for pay" my ass, they are just bi and ashamed of it (although doing porn should be more shaming than that so I dont understand their stupid logic, maybe they think that they are not really a man if they are gay/bi or something, dunno, most of them arent very bright) and it's not like doing gay porn makes you rich.

The money isn't in filming gay porn..it's in using that platform to escort and make Only Fans content where you will still be fucking and sucking men or vice versa. I'm in the Big Apple. I've seen men rob toddlers of jewelry and scooters and also rob wheelchair bound seniors for drugs instead of shooting gay content. I say if you can get an erection and climax with another man you ain't straight and I dated two rentboys in the 1990s and they were more gay then straight...

 

[MilfBanger78]

The money isn't in filming gay porn..it's in using that platform to escort and make Only Fans content where you will still be fucking and sucking men or vice versa. I'm in the Big Apple. I've seen men rob toddlers of jewelry and scooters and also rob wheelchair bound seniors for drugs instead of shooting gay content. I say if you can get an erection and climax with another man you ain't straight and I dated two rentboys in the 1990s and they were more gay then straight...

Way more complex than that. gay porn per se is a separate animal than cams or OF

 

[Shakarican]

Im with it I'm straight but love to have sex and getting head from men what's good

I never said that it was an absolute rule, just a pattern i've noticed over time. Considering that i've seen content from hundreds of guys onlyfans, with only a handful of exceptions I'd say it is one of the more accurate ways of determining it. Don't forget, not everyone reveals their sexuality on social media, especially when there's money to be made by keeping it quiet. So you can't always tell who is what.

If you don't believe me, then test for yourself. Find your favorite pornstar that's confirmed Gay-for-pay, and see what kind of content their making on their onlyfans. Chances are really good that you wont find a lot of gay sex.

 

[dogt00th]

The method is actually very easy.

Step 1: Check to see if they have their own OnlyFans account.
Step 2: If the content they post on their Onlyfans is mainly them having anal sex, blowjobs, rimming, etc. with other men, then they are very likely gay/bi. If their content is mainly thirst trap photos, naked pics, masturbation or them using sex toys, "bromance" content or content that is vaguely homoerotic and lewd but not pornographic, then they are straight. (Obviously if they post content with woman, they are probably straight as well).

I've noticed after seeing that many porn stars create their own onlyfans, that the openly gay/bi ones are constantly having gay sex while the gay-for-pay or straight identifying ones had less explicit content, but still wanted to appeal to that same demographic. The same pattern is also found when looking at celebs, models, and other famous people who also have onlyfans.

Now I know what you're thinking. There are straight men who do have gay sex in gay porn, so why wouldn't straight men also have gay sex on onlyfans? At first, I didn't understand why, but I think I've got a satisfying explanation. It makes sense if you think of porn star as an independent contractor, while creating an onlyfans is like creating a business. Porn stars (especially if they are straight) want easy and quick money.They want to get hired, work for 1 or 2 days, and get paid thousands immediately. Porn stars don't have to worry about anything else. They don't have to negotiate payments of everyone involved, they don't worry about flight or hotel rooms, invest in good cameras, worry about lighting or editing the video, or doing any marketing at all. If you start your own onlyfans, you can potentially get more money, but you must do everything yourself. It's a lot of hard work and it's time consuming, which means it's not fast and easy money anymore.

Gay men might do this regardless of the hard work because they're having gay sex anyway, so why not monetize it. But straight men don't actually want to have gay sex in the first place so it's a much harder ask to get them to put in all that work. It's much easier to do solo content like masturbation and dick pics, because that doesn't require much extra effort and you don't have to pay anyone.

Don't forget. Onlyfans profit isn't guaranteed. Straight men want quick and easy money for having gay sex, not to work for long hours to potentially get very little reward.

Caveats:
1. There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. I can name a few gay-for-pay porn stars off the top of my head who have their own OF and fuck other men on a consistent basis. But this is not particularly common.
2. Gay-for-Pay actors will sometimes fuck a man on another person's onlyfans. It's more common for a straight man to do that because they are getting paid by the owner of the onlyfans. It's more akin to the porn work because they might not need to get involved in the shooting/editing etc. and they could get paid upfront.
3. Sometimes companies will manage a performers onlyfans and take a cut. This takes a lot of the work out of onlyfans, but the performer gets less control and less profit. This is why it's so crucial to know if the porn star is doing the scenes on an onlyfans page that they manage, or if they are appearing on another persons page.

I like this a lot. It's very true. There are so many bait and switch accounts out there. Since you can't leave a rating on an individual page, I started throwing everyone into a list on OF, and some of them include titles such as "Free is too expensive" and "Lamest". A lot of straight dudes play around with each other in a non-sexual way (ball grabbing, nude idiocy, etc) and do the same thing as these accounts. Featuring another dude where your dicks are out means nothing. I tend to follow off LinkTree off IG accounts. Whenever I get tempted to subscribe, I go back to their IG to check if there's anything indicating they're actually gay so I don't waste my money.

 

[Dr_Feelgood_LV]

How would you personally classify him? Bi?

As I explained in my previous essay, for want of a better term that more accurately describes this phenomenon, he would be the quintessential "heteroflexible." He could not be bisexual if we define "bisexuality" as being sexually/emotionally attracted to both orthodox sexes/genders. I believe he and most people who are (mis)classified as "bi" aren't true bisexuals if we stick to that simple and clarifying definition. Hence, all the unnecessary controversy and debating/fighting that do not have to happen. I first encountered this argument when I saw an online discussion in the late 90s on video (on Huffington Post I think, as the HuffPost was called then) by straight men who described themselves as being "on the downlow" and not bi/gay because they claimed that they aren't attracted to their male sexual partners. They are instead merely attracted to the allure of the sexual acts they do with them. They didn't define that phenomenon then as a fetish but it makes sense to classify it as one to me now because what are fetishes anyway? They're all just weird sexual shit that people just are so turned on by but couldn't explain why, they just are! Things that would be repulsive to people and even to themselves normally if they didn't have their fetish are suddenly "hot" like stinky feet and armpits, dressing up as infants, being peed on, being physically abused and humiliated, etc. Suddenly, fucking another man to put them under one's control or vice versa just doesn't sound that weird in comparison anymore when I realized that. I only started realizing how much it actually made sense once I finally experienced and observed hundreds of examples in all their glory and variety in all my sexual explorations as an adult. It's sooo common and widespread. But almost all of them really aren't interested in men beyond that usually very specific or narrow range of sexual acts that they'll tend to focus on after the usual light exploration from utter curiosity of other stuff, and the most common one being analy fingered, rimmed and/or fucked. The vast majority of them actually don't like penetration after the experience and then that kills it for them for life. But the small minority who like them, ooh boy lol, I'd say they may actually be the more natural and better bottom between us. But none of it changes the fact that they're really only attracted and committed to their women. Most of them don't even ask for my pics (on Craigslist/Doublelist where I found 99% of these guys), which is a no-no to 99% of gay guys. Look at all the profiles on Grindr that express the universal exhaustion from asking for face pics lol. In fact, I'd even add that one as another possible "litmus test" for "homosexuality" maybe (i.e. requiring a face pic to sense sexual attraction to the same gender and vice versa), because it closely correlates with the gender you're really attracted to. Some of them may ask just for some proof that I'm not hairy on my face and body and that I'm not obese but those are like the bare minimum for gays lol, and in fact a lot of us love facial and body hair because they're masculine.

For most of them the sexual experience with other men actually counterintuitively confirms their straightness even more for them actually. I've seen, I'd say, a very few, maybe only 2 or 3 true bisexuals among those hundreds. There was this beautiful black stud with the BBC (of course lol) who dated both men and women. His last relationship was with a guy he said, his first one But previous to that? He claims - though I don't have a reason to not believe him - that he had 8 kids, all from different baby mamas that he was supporting and he even showed me some pics of them on his phone. I know it's hilarious that he was the stereotype of that particular "brand" of the black man but he said they were all happy and had no drama between all of them. Lol. But the point of that was that I don't think he needed to prove his "heterosexuality" any more because it probably needed to be quelled and suppressed some actually lol. And he also more than proved his sexual prowess with men (of course, that's not the proof of his attraction to men; it's the fact that he actually dates them that makes him bi) that night with me, haha, I actually had to ask for a bit of a break. Like I said, I may ironically not really be as good and as pleasured and as long-lasting as a bottom as some of these bottom-oriented heteroflexibles. =p And yes, of course, wanting anal sexual stimulation has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation. If not then there wouldn't be any gay men who are exclusively top or don't want anything to do with anal sex at all, which it seems may even be the majority of us actually and I'm now only realizing and finally accepting that I may count among as well, at least in a partial way.