The new normal, and the gay life.

hungboy18

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So there's this new show on NBC, The new normal, it's about a gay couple who hires a surrogate, her grandmother is bigot, she has a daughter who is a bit different... it's basically a comedy about marriage, a gay couple, and their lifestyle (what no HIV, orgies and 24 hour partying? OMG!)

I was cooking and I was thinking about life, and maybe it's because I have been watching the show and it inspired me, I'm only 21, I'm in college... I have yet to be come out of the closet or be in a relationship, I honestly feel like being gay is something I'd never change, and I'm not the least bit ashamed of it, but it's a very private and personal thing, I feel so comfortable with it but I can't seem to share this part of me with people, my best friend knows I'm gay, I didn't say the word but she asked "Do you prefer guys or girls?" and I said "I think you know" and then I told her about what I've done sexually and that it was with a guy, and once she asked me what I thought my mother would think when I came out and I think I said something like "I don't know" I was too nervous to give her an answer but I'd have said something like "It's none of her business but I hope she accepts me and I'm proud of who I am, this only concerns me and the person I'll be in a relationship with, I was born this way and it is normal!". It only concerns me because being gay only affects my love and sex life, everything else COULD be exactly the same, if I was straight.

But my point is, the guys on the show are successful in their personal and professional lives, they want a child and they sort of fight ignorance by being themselves and trying to promote it peacefully by speaking their mind and they also feel bad and protective of others, and I feel like that's the life I want for myself, to be successful first, to begin working and feel good about it, to do things for myself, to become the individual I want to be... and after doing that for a year or two and maybe date during that time, I'm sure I'll want to find someone equally successful, and by that I don't mean I'll be a millionaire with a thousand things and incredible achievements and look for the same or even the same exact person as me, I don't need a clone, that's just rubbish, I want someone who probably went to college like me or stated his own business, and I don't feel like this because of money, it changes you, by doing this things, and obviously money matters too. I also want some who is intelligent, sensitive, kind, funny, productive... an all around nice guy, I don't need perfection, I need someone who can inspire me to be better, to do and be more than I am, everyday, someone who lights up my heart, I believe I'll be free enough and in a better place to do that by the time I'm 25, and then I'd like to be in a good place to get married, yeah :D, and probably adopt a child by the time I'm 30 something, I know life isn't that easy, but I went from hating school to college, from promoting abortion to wanting to be a father, the only thing I sort of have always been ok with was my sexuality, it's the way I was born, it wasn't a choice, not even accepting it, I didn't because I didn't need to, I have always felt this was, I just didn't feel like being with a men when I was a child, but I saw them in a way that makes me believe I have always been gay, from birth.

It's funny how I also have all this ideas about what I think raising my child will be like, obviously it is a joint venture but still, there are some things I feel very strongly about like being bilingual, I am writing this in english but when I wake up I'm thinking in a completely different language and then I have to switch to talk with my friends... but still it makes me feel pretty good about myself, and I want that for my child, I only want one, plus college, a sport, arts... I wanna raise him or her to be the person I wish I was and the person I believe I'm becoming, because every day I feel more and more free and capable to explore the world and myself as an individual.

So my question to you, is, how do you envision your life as a gay man? or how is your life? Can gay guys have a "normal" life?
 
If you consider the show normal the you must have loved Leave It To Beaver. It's good entertainment but it's not real. By the way the ex husband is friggin hot.
 
I sent you a private message, but that was before I watched The New Normal. I just watched the first 3 episodes, and I think I have a new favorite TV show. I can't wait to watch the next one. After seeing the show, I can better answer your question: can gay guys have a "normal" life?

What is normal? Normal is different for everyone. What we define as normal is totally different from what a heterosexual man, woman, couple, etc. would define. Gay guys will more than likely always have to deal with bullshit straight guys don't have to deal with. But for me, that's perfectly okay. I've dealt with many crazy, terrible, bad things. What we learn and experience from the bad things makes us better, stronger individuals. I know not everyone can say that, but I can. Everything I've experienced up until now has seemed normal to me. I'm pretty sure when I hold my baby for the first time with my boyfriend/partner/husband will feel even more normal.
 
Hungboy18....What I got out of reading your post is that as things get more defined and which direction and how you want your life to be are like the gay couple in the "New Normal sitcom..In the show they portray what life is like for the 2 main characters..It has the mom who is a bigot, who is rude, that discriminates people around her who are different then the society norms..The female friend who is raising a daughter that seems somewhat touched in a odd way that she is raising alone. I only saw 1 episode and liked the show..I was your age in the late 70's when things were much different then it is today for us gay men..You sure as heck woulnt see a show like that.You also mentioned that you were not ashamed to be gay, which you shouldnt..You said your best girl friend knows but you did not say I am gay to her. You said she asked you if you preferred guy or girls and you answered, I think you know. Sexual preference is a personal thing but to be who you are you should acknowledge it without shame. It is my belief if you cant say it to the one you love and who love you there is shame. Do you have a father still around or siblings ? You will find out on your own time when to come out..It is really scary at the beginning. When I came out to 6 brothers and 2 sisters and my mom I felt like I was loved more.I was finally able to be me..I wish only the best for you and goo luck..You will be surprised because I dont thinl you will need the luck..:)
 
What a loving, open minded and open-hearted post. (your pics added to that: Whoa, man of our dreams!)

I have a little problem with your question though. I mean, what is normal? We - citizens of the twentyfirst century - live in a world where fathers leave their "family" because they recognise they are gay. A world where women marry women, where teenagers get pregnant, where grandmas bring a new "grandpa" home... A world with bisexual people and Love triangles. People get divorced, adopt childs (maybe even from other countries). We have surrogate mothers, Abortions, transgenders, the possibility to change your gender...

So what is normal really?
I personally think, that you are able to live the way you want to live in this world and you should live your live with whoever you want to! When you approached it, you should be thankfull for this life, keep it, care about it and simply dont give a damn about what is "normal" in other peoples minds.
So could a gay coulpe live together (married) and have a child? Yes they can! I think they have the right to do so, no matter if they have penises or tits.(or both ;)) is this "normal"? Probably not. Should it be the goal to be normal? I dont think so....
 
Done this n that. Wanted a kid but wanted a descent partner first.
Not into the gay scene and stuff, more of a country masculine guy. It's in the cards to be who I am.
I believe in right and wrong, I believe in God, and I believe in being myself.
My worst judge is myself. I find that people don't really care if ya str8 or gay, but that your a good person. I don't flaunt I'm gay etc.
I help my neighbors and they help me. I'm the only gay guy with in 3 miles.
I'm not a gym rat, but not lazy overweight either.
 
What a loving, open minded and open-hearted post. (your pics added to that: Whoa, man of our dreams!)

I have a little problem with your question though. I mean, what is normal? We - citizens of the twentyfirst century - live in a world where fathers leave their "family" because they recognise they are gay. A world where women marry women, where teenagers get pregnant, where grandmas bring a new "grandpa" home... A world with bisexual people and Love triangles. People get divorced, adopt childs (maybe even from other countries). We have surrogate mothers, Abortions, transgenders, the possibility to change your gender...

So what is normal really?
I personally think, that you are able to live the way you want to live in this world and you should live your live with whoever you want to! When you approached it, you should be thankfull for this life, keep it, care about it and simply dont give a damn about what is "normal" in other peoples minds.
So could a gay coulpe live together (married) and have a child? Yes they can! I think they have the right to do so, no matter if they have penises or tits.(or both ;)) is this "normal"? Probably not. Should it be the goal to be normal? I dont think so....


I agree with you, I don't want to live a "normal" life, I think that is boring, but as I grow older I find myself wanting most of what a 21st century straight couple wants, I don't need it to be normal as long as it's not a fight, I think people will never embrace gay people and gay marriage the same way, or at least not in my lifetime, but we're getting closer to being seen as ordinary, which I think it's my goal, I'll never be proud of being gay, I'll always embrace it but it isn't something to be proud of, straight people aren't proud because they are straight, it's something I was born with and something I accept and like about myself, it's not a reason to promote peace and love among straight and gay people, it's a reason to be with a man and not a woman.
 
Hungboy18....What I got out of reading your post is that as things get more defined and which direction and how you want your life to be are like the gay couple in the "New Normal sitcom..In the show they portray what life is like for the 2 main characters..It has the mom who is a bigot, who is rude, that discriminates people around her who are different then the society norms..The female friend who is raising a daughter that seems somewhat touched in a odd way that she is raising alone. I only saw 1 episode and liked the show..I was your age in the late 70's when things were much different then it is today for us gay men..You sure as heck woulnt see a show like that.You also mentioned that you were not ashamed to be gay, which you shouldnt..You said your best girl friend knows but you did not say I am gay to her. You said she asked you if you preferred guy or girls and you answered, I think you know. Sexual preference is a personal thing but to be who you are you should acknowledge it without shame. It is my belief if you cant say it to the one you love and who love you there is shame. Do you have a father still around or siblings ? You will find out on your own time when to come out..It is really scary at the beginning. When I came out to 6 brothers and 2 sisters and my mom I felt like I was loved more.I was finally able to be me..I wish only the best for you and goo luck..You will be surprised because I dont thinl you will need the luck..:)

I'm not close to my family at all, as a child I felt very ignored by everyone, and I've always been a dreamer and they are somewhat close minded people, not in regards to gay people, they somewhat accept homosexuality, I think I could come out and it would be ok, but it's such a personal thing, I don't know why, but I have have never felt like sharing, but I'm so ok with it and I have thought about it for so long and felt so good about myself that honestly it's not an issue if people knew, but I don't want to be the gay guy in college or in life, I think I'm waiting to have my real first relationship to come out, before that I don't know if I'll because being gay has influenced me and made me the way I am but as far as being friends with someone or being my mother's son, being gay is not something that contributes to that, I could talk about it and give some insight into how I wanna live my life and what not but for now I don't talk about women or men, I talk about "the person I'll be with" I never mention the sex, and have never really said anything about a woman's body or anything, and even if I were out, I don't see myself talking about that hot guy walking by, I'm more reserved about my sexuality but I'm very aware of it's existence and what I like as dislike and what I want, in the bed and in life.

Thanks for the reply!
 
Done this n that. Wanted a kid but wanted a descent partner first.
Not into the gay scene and stuff, more of a country masculine guy. It's in the cards to be who I am.
I believe in right and wrong, I believe in God, and I believe in being myself.
My worst judge is myself. I find that people don't really care if ya str8 or gay, but that your a good person. I don't flaunt I'm gay etc.
I help my neighbors and they help me. I'm the only gay guy with in 3 miles.
I'm not a gym rat, but not lazy overweight either.

I feel like that, but I'm a bit more "gay", but I've met a lot of straight guys who are very feminine and yet they would never do anything gay, the world is changing and habits and likings too.

But I'm not really into "I'm gay, proud and look at me, I'll make a speech about my life as a gay man" I just want the life, I don't want the fame and being a role model to others isn't really my thing, but I'll be out and I'll correct people if they are wrong, I'll tell them how I feel, and that's it.

I'm a bit scared I won't find the right guy to have a kid with, I'm 21, I plan on doing that by the time I'm 30-35, not before and not long after that age, and I don't think I'll fall in love and be in a relationship and that is it, I'll probably go from guy to guy until I find the one, but if I get a kid, I'll stick with him forever, because when you do that, you can't return him or break up.
 
More power to you. I truly hope you do succeed. Many of your thoughts are similar to what I have thought myself... it's hard to find like minded people, and I am glad that there is at least one out there. I wish you the best of luck and a lot and I hope you don't stop trying to find that guy, I think that if you truly want it, you will really find it. Cheers bud.