The nfl and the idiots that take a knee and the anti-americans that you're them on.

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Here is where you mentioned race.
Yes, I mentioned race as an example of people who fought, suffered and died to effect social change instead of leaving the country.

But in respect to the last post and in reference to those who signed petitions to quit the country, I did not. ALL I did was put your same question to YOU, which incidentally you have YET to answer, although we BOTH know what the answer IS.

Several posts ago you bragged of knowing someone's "next play." In this regard there is only ONE next play... the next play you've been left to... the ONLY answer to MY question.

Which, in turn, is ALSO the answer to YOURS.

The reason you won't answer it is because of the implications you know the answer will entail. So here, let me HELP YOU OUT.

The answer to both questions is, BECAUSE IT'S OUR FKN COUNTRY. Theirs, yours, ours, and mine... like those fallen brothers in arms you claimed you helped bury.
 
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Oprah could buy a small country with her money, she said she would leave if trump became president but she is still here

Am I going to have to wait a long time for that citation?

You're replying to other people in the meantime, so I'm just wondering if I should be holding my breath waiting for a reply or if it's just coincidence that the woman I'm being left to assume you're libeling happens to be one of the most successful black women in US history.
 

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Yes, I mentioned race as an example of people who fought, suffered and died to effect social change instead of leaving the country.

But in respect to the last post and in reference to those who signed petitions to quit the country, I did not. ALL I did was put your same question to YOU, which incidentally you have YET to answer, although we BOTH know what the answer IS.

Several posts ago you bragged of knowing someone's "next play." In this regard there is only ONE next play... the next play you've been left to... the ONLY answer to MY question.

Which, in turn, is ALSO the answer to YOURS.

The reason you won't answer it is because of the implications you know the answer will entail. So here, let me HELP YOU OUT.

The answer to both questions is, BECAUSE IT'S OUR FKN COUNTRY. Theirs, yours, ours, and mine... like those fallen brothers in arms you claimed you helped bury.

Bravo... Bravo... it was like pulling teeth from a crocodile to get you to admit to that. But you're right, because at the end of the day it's still better here than there. Thank you for finally realizing that. That is very "MAGA" of you. You just provide you're not so left and you can be reasoned with.

Now as for my dead friends, since I didn't see you there fighting with us and getting chewed up with us, don't go there, just let that go.
 

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Am I going to have to wait a long time for that citation?

You're replying to other people in the meantime, so I'm just wondering if I should be holding my breath waiting for a reply or if it's just coincidence that the woman I'm being left to assume you're libeling happens to be one of the most successful black women in US history.

When did ever say she wasn't successful. I said with her money she could buy her own country. That sounds successful for me.
 
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Citation please!

The internet's got a long memory. Please source me Oprah Winfrey stating that she would ex-patriate if Trump were to win the presidency.

Oprah is not an obscure celebrity so it should be easy for you to find these remarks. I'll be waiting.

A pristine product from the always-on conservative bullshit factory.
 
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Bravo... Bravo... it was like pulling teeth from a crocodile to get you to admit to that. But you're right, because at the end of the day it's still better here than there. Thank you for finally realizing that. That is very "MAGA" of you. You just provide you're not so left and you can be reasoned with.

Now as for my dead friends, since I didn't see you there fighting with us and getting chewed up with us, don't go there, just let that go.
YOU're the one who mentioned it, champ.

And get me to admit?? To WHAT praytell?

YOU suggested that people who are dissatisfied with social injustice, discrimination, disparity in law enforcement, etc. must "hate the country" (not OUR country, I noticed) and how we should just up and leave.

Or are you so deluded as to believe that the conservative IDEA of a "great America" isn't a twisted one founded upon hate, bigotry, supremacy, separatism, and isolation.

Are you so deluded as to believe that WE don't envision an America FAR GREATER than that kind of narrow-minded, hate based BULLSHIT??
 

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Oprah could buy a small country with her money, she said she would leave if trump became president but she is still here.


Third request, dude. Please cite Oprah Winfrey stating that she would ex-patriate if Trump won. You made the statement, please back it up.
 

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YOU're the one who mentioned it, champ.

And get me to admit?? To WHAT praytell?

YOU suggested that people who are dissatisfied with social injustice, discrimination, disparity in law enforcement, etc. must "hate the country" (not OUR country, I noticed) and how we should just up and leave.

Or are you so deluded as to believe that the conservative IDEA of a "great America" isn't a twisted one founded upon hate, bigotry, supremacy, separatism, and isolation.

Are you so deluded as to believe that WE don't envision an America FAR GREATER than that kind of narrow-minded, hate based BULLSHIT??
You're being very "us and them" here I'm feeling like you're making it about something more personal here. If you go allllll the way back to when I started talking about the anthem and not using it for a protestors agenda I was the only one saying it should be left alone as a symbol for all Americans to come together under. I never once made a racial distinction. That was you and before you it was that stormfront guy. If you want to debate then let's debate, but if you want to make it racial or turn it into an us and then thing and tap dance around race, then find someone else to play your games with. I don't have the time for people with hidden racial agendas.
Good night and god bless and I hope you find peace in your life.
 

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Third request, dude. Please cite Oprah Winfrey stating that she would ex-patriate if Trump won. You made the statement, please back it up.

That's the beauty about the internet. I don't have to. Why don't you waste your night proving me wrong.
Good night and god bless
 

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That's the beauty about the internet. I don't have to. Why don't you waste your night proving me wrong.
Good night and god bless

The mantra of the GOP fake news machine. Welcome to my ignore list you racist, sexist, commie piece of shit.
 

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You're being very "us and them" here I'm feeling like you're making it about something more personal here. If you go allllll the way back to when I started talking about the anthem and not using it for a protestors agenda I was the only one saying it should be left alone as a symbol for all Americans to come together under. I never once made a racial distinction. That was you and before you it was that stormfront guy. If you want to debate then let's debate, but if you want to make it racial or turn it into an us and then thing and tap dance around race, then find someone else to play your games with. I don't have the time for people with hidden racial agendas.
Good night and god bless and I hope you find peace in your life.
I'm quite satisfied with my life thank you very much.

As for your ideas on how the anthem should be left alone as a symbol for all Americans to come together under, and how protests against social injustices should be done elsewhere (out of public scrutiny) and how we allegedly "hate the country" (it's OUR country, and NO we don't "hate" it) and how we should just LEAVE it,

others here have ADDRESSED that, in a number of posts, yet you seem not to respect their point of view OR their opinions on the subject.

NOR do you seem to acknowledge that the whole purpose of the protest and the discourse IS to MAKE AMERICA GREAT.... GREATER that the narrow minded, hate based, bigoted vision of the RIGHT.

The FOCUS of the debate, and the protest IS race.

So WE'RE not the ones trying to "play games" and "tap dance around it," bud.
 

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There was a little old lady on the side of the road with a flat tire and you stopped to help her change it, that's why you were late. Now who's most in the wrong? :p

That bitch for not replacing her old tires.

(This is why I don't get invited to more parties.)
 
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I hate that in a democratic republic so many have a take it or leave it mentally. I though the point of this country was self-governance for and by the people. If you don't like that way America operates, change it!

I think immigrants envy America because it's a safe, prosperous democracy. All those migrants running around the world didn't have the opportunity to change their governments, which is why they are forced to flea their homes. I take great offense to people telling others to just up and leave. No, you stay and fight. Taking a knee is important to those player who come form and know the challenges of their communities. Surly all the Republican's enraged by this issue should use that energy to get all of the homeless vets, that they claim to love, off the streets. The military's cheerleading team never misses a beat, unless a real issue is at play. I don't know any of you poster's personally, so I'm talking about the average joe and our political "leaders".

The kneeling issue spreads even more light to our country's aversion to self-reflection, this blindness is the reason China is replacing us a world power. We've got to focus on real issues and listen to each other, even NFL players, when we say that something is wrong with America.
 

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What it all comes down to is the conservatives (i.e. far right, nazis, religious right) care far more for "things" than people. These people are unable to give real live, breathing human beings the respect and dignity they give the flag, an inanimate piece of cloth.
 
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What it all comes down to is the conservatives (i.e. far right, nazis, religious right) care far more for "things" than people. These people are unable to give real live, breathing human beings the respect and dignity they give the flag, an inanimate piece of cloth.

preach
 

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What other “million dollar job skill” requires you to stand and salute a country that as soon as you leave the field treats you just like you make $5000 a year? Cops don’t look at your W2 before they shoot.

There it is.....another one of the things the old white boys can't stand. The audacity these black men have making all that money. They should be so happy to make that much money playing a game they love that they should just be quiet like good little "boys."
 

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1.) That's the beauty about the internet. I don't have to.
2.) Why don't you waste your night proving me wrong.
Good night and god bless

Re 1.) You’re correct—thats why cowards and liars thrive on the internet: you can say anything you want there, taking no responsibilty. It’s a wall and you’re the fool with a can of spray paint.

Re 2.) No one has to prove a cowardly fool wrong who can’t back up/document what he says.

Go back to your dinner of dung in the dark with your brother rats.

No one wants blessings from the likes of you.
 
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What has historically made this country great Daisy is the FREEDOM to sit, stand or kneel and to peaceably protest! Why do you want to take this freedoms away from anyone? What is your fear?
Standing for the National Anthem is simply showing respect for those that made the ultimate sacrifice defending your right to sit on your disrespectful ass and do as you do. That being said I think there are alot more constructive and effective ways to show your non approval of whatever it is you're protesting. Disrespecting the ones that gave you that right is just wrong.