The nfl and the idiots that take a knee and the anti-americans that you're them on.

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Standing for the National Anthem is simply showing respect for those that made the ultimate sacrifice defending your right to sit on your disrespectful ass and do as you do. That being said I think there are alot more constructive and effective ways to show your non approval of whatever it is you're protesting. Disrespecting the ones that gave you that right is just wrong.

And thank God you're free to express your opinion as you see fit . . . just like the players.
 

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Standing for the National Anthem is simply showing respect for those that made the ultimate sacrifice defending your right to sit on your disrespectful ass and do as you do. That being said I think there are alot more constructive and effective ways to show your non approval of whatever it is you're protesting. Disrespecting the ones that gave you that right is just wrong.

Lies. There are religions that do not allow their followers to stand for the anthem and nobody says boo about it. This isn't about the anthem or the troops, it's coded racism and white resentment that a rich black man is STILL complaining.

We have homeless vets and vets waiting a week to spend thirty minutes with a medical specialist. Yall don't give two rips about the troops you just hate seeing black people protest in any capacity.

May I ask, how do YOU protest police brutality against people of color and in general? Let me answer that for you. You don't. Because you don't care about the problem. Cuz you're a white man and unlikely to be brutalized by police.... FOR NOW. The more yall turn a blind eye the problem will continue to grow and soon it won't be just blacks who have to worry.

LMAO at "exercising the freedoms our troops died for is disrespectful to the troops."
 

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FYI white Americans have NEVER en masse supported any black protest in American history. Not. One.

when slaves revolted they were punished
when slaves asked for education they were punished
when slaves talked back they were punished
when we tried to move into white neighborhoods we were bombed and burned out
when we wanted to vote we were intimidated and ran off from the polls
when we wanted to go to better schools the response was so violent the ARMY had to escort black KIDS to school
when we sat in white diners they turned fire hoses and attack dogs on us
when Rosa sat at the front of the bus she was arrested
MLK was considered a domestic terrorist and the KKK STILL is not
when we said Black Lives Matter they obfuscated the message, called us violent and mocked us with ALL Lives Matter
when a football player knelt during a fucking song America went ape-shit and he was blacklisted from a league full of domestic abusers, rapists, dogfighters and violent drug addicts.

The things we protest never upset you 1/15th as much as the WAY we protest them. This speaks very poorly of the state of America and our imagined post-racial society. Cop shoots a black doctor, silence. Football player kneels, angry mob. Colin's ONLY sin was disturbing the white equilibrium. How apathetic can you be to people of color? This shows just how disconnected sports fans and the far right are from their communities that a fucking piece of clothe commands more respect than brown lives.

I issue this offer to anyone reading my post. If you can find one, just one black protest in American history that was not staunchly, passionately and sometimes violently opposed by white Americans en masse, I will wash your car with a toothbrush. Just find one. I'll wait. No time limit or deadline either, take as long as you need.
 

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Standing for the National Anthem is simply showing respect for those that made the ultimate sacrifice defending your right to sit on your disrespectful ass and do as you do. That being said I think there are alot more constructive and effective ways to show your non approval of whatever it is you're protesting. Disrespecting the ones that gave you that right is just wrong.

They are not disrespecting the people who gave them that right......the founding fathers. Nor are they disrespecting the ones who have fought to preserve this country the founding fathers created. What's wrong is the nazis disrespecting black people, gay people, sick people and others they deem to be "less than" the true American "patriot" (read racist, gun-toting white man and his family).
 

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They are not disrespecting the people who gave them that right......the founding fathers. Nor are they disrespecting the ones who have fought to preserve this country the founding fathers created. What's wrong is the nazis disrespecting black people, gay people, sick people and others they deem to be "less than" the true American "patriot" (read racist, gun-toting white man and his family).

cue "No no no no no when Nazis do it it's free speech, cuz at least they're not on the clock" in t-minus 5...4...3...
 
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So you not only hate America you hate white Americans as well....... it's all clear to me now. Instead of wasting your precious protest time here on this site why don't you go get your protest buddies and have a knock down drag out of a time doing it is that you do. Feel free to take a knee in the middle of an intersection.

LMAOOOOO there it is, "I hate white people." I knew it was coming.

I asked you a question.

How.

Do.

You.

Protest.

Injustice.

Against.

People.

Of.

Color?

If you don't, be a man and say you don't. Stand in your truth or cower in the shadows while preaching about respect and bravery.
 

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Can someone explain to me why the national anthem is even sung at these games? It doesn't make much sense outside of international sporting events and matches.

Cuz Murrica. The truth is this anthem fiasco is the dying gasp of white supremacy, one of the few joys that they still have is to sing a song, and command black people to respect a song, that was written at a time where Colin, myself, and anyone who looks like us would've been picking cotton. America does not live up to the shallow, meaningless principles in the song, but if we can make everybody stand and put their hands on their hearts it can make them feel like we are the greatest nation in the world.

Subconsciously they know it isn't true, we're not first in education, healthcare or even happiness. So this spirit of nationalism-on-steroids is a final delusion that Babylon isn't falling.
 
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So you not only hate America you hate white Americans as well....... it's all clear to me now..
As always, the frail sensibilities of the white god-fearin’, real ‘Murican patriot under attack as they wrap themselves in the flag. So weak and educationally challenged that they cannot understand that an American privilege is the right to dissent and protest.

This was a troll thread instigated by a troll poster as an obvious dog whistle to others who are like and limited minded.
...Feel free to take a knee in the middle of an intersection.
Seems you have taken a knee to your master—party over country.
 

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Why is your chart so small? What is the source of your "chart"? Trying to make it difficult for us to read the source and the timing of the tweet putting forth the chart?

And pray tell: How is it possible to have 2015 crime statistics in November 2015? Legitimate sources of such statistics usually are posted AFTER the entire year is over. That is was tweeted by whom it was tweeted by makes it even more suspect, given his well-documented daily history of lying.

And, you joined 3 1/2 years ago. 12 messages total. Why are you all of sudden active now? In the political forums? Something ain't right, and it's not just your "chart". Especially given the mid-term elections are 2 months away now. Coincidence? Nah. You be trollin'.
 

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FAIL.

First of all, all races kill their own in sky-high numbers due to proximity, familiarity and the general mechanics of violence and murder. Most whites are killed by whites, most Asians are killed by Asians, et cetera.

Your attempt at mindlessly displaying that information only shows how little you understand about the very topic you're immersing yourself in, unless you DO know that intra-race violence is a trend for all colors and are only singling out blacks per dog-whistle racism requirements.

Second of all, black people are deeply troubled by the violence in our neighborhoods and have been protesting, staging events and groups, and hosting police in churches in attempts to connect with law enforcement to end the senseless slaughter of our own for decades. Mothers patrol sidewalks, we have stop-the-violence marches, concerts and bbq's. You are unaware of this because you clearly don't talk to very many people of color outside of a cursory, insincere, shallow and impersonal manner, and because "black people protest violence in their neighborhoods" isn't quite as newsworthy as "black man robs a liquor store."

The RACIST history behind your context-free parade of that chart harkens back to previous era's attempts to display blacks as feral, reckless, violent and only caring about death when the murderer is white. At best, it's innocently intellectually dishonest. At worst, it's a blatantly racist attempt to paint my people as subhuman. You should be ashamed.
 
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Why is your chart so small? What is the source of your "chart"? Trying to make it difficult for us to read the source and the timing of the tweet putting forth the chart?

And pray tell: How is it possible to have 2015 crime statistics in November 2015? Legitimate sources of such statistics usually are posted AFTER the entire year is over. That is was tweeted by whom it was tweeted by makes it even more suspect, given his well-documented daily history of lying.

And, you joined 3 1/2 years ago. 12 messages total. Why are you all of sudden active now? In the political forums? Something ain't right, and it's not just your "chart". Especially given the mid-term elections are 2 months away now. Coincidence? Nah. You be trollin'.

This is clearly a troll, I'm having fun exposing him for the insincerity and dishonesty in his posts. He can't answer a single one of my questions directly. Telltale sign. Soon as I get his back against the wall he changes subjects faster than Flash Gordon.

I didn't even bother checking the validity or the "who" of his chart cuz I can already imagine it either came from a 3rd rate far right blog or Tomi Lahren's twitter feed. LMAO Karen Walker is back they gonna have to send their top trolls cuz I don't play.
 

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Re 1.) You’re correct—thats why cowards and liars thrive on the internet: you can say anything you want there, taking no responsibilty. It’s a wall and you’re the fool with a can of spray paint.

Re 2.) No one has to prove a cowardly fool wrong who can’t back up/document what he says.

Go back to your dinner of dung in the dark with your brother rats.

No one wants blessings from the likes of you.

And yet... no one has. What they have done is a whole lot of name calling, because that's easier than either looking it up, or not saying anything. You didn't like my answer, fine. But the harder choice would have been to keep the insults and hate to yourself. And you took the easy way out and decided to sling insults. So you have just become the person you were ranting about. Congrats.
 

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Looks like we're back to classic dog whistle racism, "black on black crime". Daisymay1's boots have been well filled after her departure.

They got the wrong one today, I'm from the midwest and live in the south, I know everything from coded racism from whites who listen to earth wind and fire to the bullhorn racism of the bible belt. I can spot it on-sight and have no qualms about calling it out. So far I only see small fish though, based on the past few pages I don't see any legit racists, just one probable Russian robo-troll. It's a joy to see other people calling out this dog-whistle racism though.
 

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Can someone explain to me why the national anthem is even sung at these games? It doesn't make much sense outside of international sporting events and matches.

This. I wonder this all the time. What does a sports event have to do with "honoring America?"

Newsflash: The U.S. national anthem is NOT an anthem of, for, or about the military. It's of, for, and about the United States, which includes a whole lot more than the military. I'm glad we have the military. But the national anthem is not an homage to the military.

I've always been a patriotic American, but patriotism has been so incredibly politicized since 9/11 that I'm kinda getting sick and cynical about it.