The numbers prove it: The GOP is estranged from America

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Not an opinion piece just the facts....

In my decades of polling, I recall only one moment when a party had been driven as far from the center as the Republican Party has been today.

The outsize influence of hard-line elements in the party base is doing to the GOP what supporters of Gene McCarthy and George McGovern did to the Democratic Party in the late 1960s and early 1970s — radicalizing its image and standing in the way of its revitalization.

The Republican Party’s ratings now stand at a 20-year low, with just 33 percent of the public holding a favorable view of the party and 58 percent judging it unfavorably, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey.
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While there are no catchy phrases for the Republicans of 2013, their image problems are readily apparent in national polls. The GOP has come to be seen as the more extreme party, the side unwilling to compromise or negotiate seriously to tackle the economic turmoil that challenges the nation.

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The party’s base is increasingly dominated by a highly energized bloc of voters with extremely conservative positions on nearly all issues: the size and role of government, foreign policy, social issues, and moral concerns. They stand with the tea party on taxes and spending and with Christian conservatives on key social questions, such as abortion rights and same-sex marriage.


The numbers prove it: The GOP is estranged from America
 
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I wouldn't put much stock in this poll as it is pretty clear the low approval rating has to do with the base's dissatisfaction with the Republican Party.

This is most evident in the 2012 election where the Republicans held the house and lost a grand total of 2 seats in the senate. And those two seats could have easily switched Republican had Akin (MO) and Mourdock (IN) not made politically fatal comments about abortion.

If the public really did have such a low opinion of Republicans, they would have suffered much more severe losses in the 2012 election.
 

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I wouldn't put much stock in this poll as it is pretty clear the low approval rating has to do with the base's dissatisfaction with the Republican Party.

This is most evident in the 2012 election where the Republicans held the house and lost a grand total of 2 seats in the senate. And those two seats could have easily switched Republican had Akin (MO) and Mourdock (IN) not made politically fatal comments about abortion.

If the public really did have such a low opinion of Republicans, they would have suffered much more severe losses in the 2012 election.
Just wondering how many people will take the time to try to educate you on a thing called gerrymandering and how the GOP used it to make districts that are completely safe for it's candidates. Kinda funny how fewer votes were cast for GOP candidates and yet they still "won":rolleyes:
 

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I wouldn't put much stock in this poll as it is pretty clear the low approval rating has to do with the base's dissatisfaction with the Republican Party.

This is most evident in the 2012 election where the Republicans held the house and lost a grand total of 2 seats in the senate. And those two seats could have easily switched Republican had Akin (MO) and Mourdock (IN) not made politically fatal comments about abortion.

If the public really did have such a low opinion of Republicans, they would have suffered much more severe losses in the 2012 election.

Oh it was a severe loss. HUGE. The whole focus of Republicans for 3.5 years was to make Obama a one term president. And they lost. Bigtime
 

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Just wondering how many people will take the time to try to educate you on a thing called gerrymandering and how the GOP used it to make districts that are completely safe for it's candidates. Kinda funny how fewer votes were cast for GOP candidates and yet they still "won":rolleyes:


Those districts are safe from democratic challenges, but it opened the door to the far right. Candidates that wouldn't have stood a chance in hell now have a shot. It's one of the reasons you'd be hard pressed to find a moderate republican these days. Say something off script and the base jumps up "HERETIC! PRIMARY HIM!!!!" :crucified:

So those districts will technically be held by a republican, it's just going to be some bat shit crazy that knows little to nothing about governing.
 
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So those districts will technically be held by a republican, it's just going to be some bat shit crazy that knows little to nothing about governing.

And that is the issue. The only candidates that can win are full of losing issues at the national level. Who came in #1 in the CPAC straw poll? Rand Paul? Right.
 

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The GOP has come to be seen as the more extreme party, the side unwilling to compromise or negotiate seriously to tackle the economic turmoil that challenges the nation.

That is a problem with American citizens, not the GOP. I blame their ignorance and the liberal propaganda machine for mis-educating them on the issue. To bolster my point, I will predict that barring any private sector innovations, the US economy will continue to flounder until the citizens wake up and elect people that will get government out of the way, so they can get on with a real recovery.
 

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Jim Morrison; "5 to 1"

Yeah, come on.
Love my girl.
She lookin' good.
Feel it, come on.
One more.

Five to one, baby, one in five.
No one here gets out alive, now.
You get yours, baby, I'll get mine.
Gonna make it, baby, if we try.

The old get old, and the young get stronger.
May take a week, and it may take longer.
They got the guns, but we got the numbers.
Gonna win yeah, we're taking over.
Come on!

Yeah!

Your ballroom days are over, baby.
Night is drawing near.
Shadows of the evening
Crawl across the years.

You walk across the floor
With a flower in your hand.
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful dimes
Gonna make it, baby, in our prime.

Come together one more time
Get together one more time
(Get together one more time.)
Get together one more time
(Get together one more time.)
Get together, ah ha.
(Get together one more time.)
Get together one more time!
(Get together one more time.)
Get together one more time!
(Get together one more time.)
Get together one more time
(Get together one more time.)
Get together one more time
(Get together one more time.)
Get together, gotta, get together
(Get together one more time.)

Ahhh!

Hey, come on, honey.
You go along home and wait for me, baby
I'll be there in just a little while.
You see, I gotta go out in this car
With these people and get -

Get together one more time
Get together one more time
Get together, got to
Get together, got to
Get together, got to
Take you up in the mountains and...
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Love my girl.
She lookin' good, lookin' real good
Love ya, come on.
Yeah.
Come on.
 

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You're right; anti discrimination laws, safe capital requirement laws, full disclosure laws and truth in advertising laws are so terribly burdensome and unnecessary. Industry can self-police (see Wall Street) and the market can more efficiently weed out poor and dangerous products. A reasonable public will tolerate only so many deaths and swindles before gossip (hopefully) disfavors a company. Who needs an FDA or SEC?
 

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That is a problem with American citizens, not the GOP. I blame their ignorance and the liberal propaganda machine for mis-educating them on the issue. To bolster my point, I will predict that barring any private sector innovations, the US economy will continue to flounder until the citizens wake up and elect people that will get government out of the way, so they can get on with a real recovery.

Here's a more accurate version of your drivel:

That is a problem with GOP, not American citizens. I blame their ignorance and the fact they are in bed with the conservative propaganda machine for their continuied efforts in mis-educating them on the issue. To bolster my point, I will predict that the US economy will continue on its road to recovery now that the citizens have woken up and re-elected people that will allow the government to take necessary action to continue with a real recovery.
 
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I await for the awakening of a third party in the US where I have a true choice. My name is Rip, Rip Van Winkle. Wake me when it's time for change. Zzzzzzzzzz.
 

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As for those noises within the party about becoming more "inclusive," here is a reaction from the conservative Christian side:

Tony Perkins Threatens GOP: Support Marriage Equality And Evangelicals Will Form Third Party | The New Civil Rights Movement
In a press release, Perkins last week wrote:
If the RNC abandons marriage, evangelicals will either sit the elections out completely–or move to create a third party. Either option puts Republicans on the path to a permanent minority.

I hope it's a bluff, but shouldn't Liberals be praying this actually happens?
 

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I've been saying for decades that the GOP truthfully should split into the Conservative (or fascist) Party and the Republican Party. I'd suggest the same for the Democrats, but their socialist/communist faction is virtually nonexistent.

I have never seen a US politician who is sufficiently to the political left for me, so I support who I can. And I don't consider big spenders of public money to be either inherently left or right; both are equally culpable of this over the last 50 years. I'm talkin' policies.
 

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Just wondering how many people will take the time to try to educate you on a thing called gerrymandering and how the GOP used it to make districts that are completely safe for it's candidates. Kinda funny how fewer votes were cast for GOP candidates and yet they still "won":rolleyes:
Yes, because gerrymandering effects the senate... right.

Oh it was a severe loss. HUGE. The whole focus of Republicans for 3.5 years was to make Obama a one term president. And they lost. Bigtime
The whole focus of any particular political party is to make the opposition a one term elected official. And when you consider the lack of major losses in the congress, you know where legislation actually gets passed and all, it's clear the disenchantment coming from this polling is coming from the Republican base.
 
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Here's a more accurate version of your drivel:

That is a problem with GOP, not American citizens. I blame their ignorance and the fact they are in bed with the conservative propaganda machine for their continuied efforts in mis-educating them on the issue. To bolster my point, I will predict that the US economy will continue on its road to recovery now that the citizens have woken up and re-elected people that will allow the government to take necessary action to continue with a real recovery.

:biggthumpup2: :biggthumpup2: :biggthumpup2: :biggthumpup2:
 

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Just wondering how many people will take the time to try to educate you on a thing called gerrymandering and how the GOP used it to make districts that are completely safe for it's candidates. Kinda funny how fewer votes were cast for GOP candidates and yet they still "won":rolleyes:
Yes, because gerrymandering effects the senate... right.
Stormfront's use of the word "districts" should have been sufficient indication to you that he was talking about elections for the House of Representatives, in which Republicans held on to a comfortable majority of seats despite losing the popular vote by more than a full percentage point, thanks to the gerrymandering of congressional districts.
 

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Yes, because gerrymandering effects the senate... right.


The whole focus of any particular political party is to make the opposition a one term elected official. And when you consider the lack of major losses in the congress, you know where legislation actually gets passed and all, it's clear the disenchantment coming from this polling is coming from the Republican base.
Doesn't affect the Senate but unless you've been hiding in a bunker you must surely have heard the GOP talking heads claiming that their victories in the House races mean that the public favors their agenda.
 

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Stormfront's use of the word "districts" should have been sufficient indication to you that he was talking about elections for the House of Representatives, in which Republicans held on to a comfortable majority of seats despite losing the popular vote by more than a full percentage point, thanks to the gerrymandering of congressional districts.
And I'll ask you again, what does that have to do with the senate? Even if one was to believe what you're saying, your explanation has nothing to do with the Senate, which I mentioned of course in supporting my initial comment in this thread.

Doesn't affect the Senate but unless you've been hiding in a bunker you must surely have heard the GOP talking heads claiming that their victories in the House races mean that the public favors their agenda.

I couldn't really care less what the GOP talking heads think regarding this topic. We are discussing the OP's link and the lack of evidence to support it (i.e. the last major election).