the other orifice

[alien51]

don't feel sorry for alien,sassy,it's not necessary.i only posed the question out of curiosity,and it's been enjoyable reading.i asked and i was answered,although i honestly didn't anticipate such a great response!a lot was insightful,thoughtful,sexy funny,combative,and educational.like i said in the beginning,i'm not that fond of it(giving)and have never rec'd,but i've noticed in porn it's always there.it's like cumming on a woman's face;you always see it but do women like it?i would guess probably not.i think if a woman likes to have contact with a man's cum,she either likes to swallow,or just watch.idea for a new thread,but it's probably been done.my wife likes the taste,but she also love to watch me cum.she says it's a phenom.

 

[B_Stronzo]

It's been a fun exercise alien51 now that you mention it.

Thanks for initiating it.:smile:

 

[bluekarma]

So let me ask you this: Do you indeed think this whole being an ass hole thing is one sided? That it does not occur in the gay community? I'm not being smart, I'd really like to know. I can't imagine it to be true because gay or straight we are humans each with our own set of tendencies, good and bad. I still can't agree that this whole trend is relative only to hetero men.

Your intentions, I believe are to downgrade hetero men. The reason for that is one that I have no desire to understand.

You tickle me Stronzo. Even your "thank you" was condescending. I don't know wether to hate or love that about you, even when it's directed at me I get a kick out of it. I hope you never get banned again, you are fun to argue with!

Yes.. I have 'duel intentions'. By suggesting many hetero men dictate general societal sexual practices I'm hoping to dissuade them all from pussy and female anuses in hopes of putting them all in one large storehouse for my own homosexual pleasure at will. (or "steve" for that matter)

proviso- THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A JOKE!

And as for your 'its society' statement... you're right. And it's to that incongruity I've endlessly been responding to your overt sense of societal denial.


But thanks for finally understanding my intent curious gurl.

It would appear lo these many explanatory posts later some ability to comprehend has been forthcoming.

 

[bluekarma]

Some women like it. I do. I think it's anamalistic, and that is fun sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes. Of course, I am very direct with what I like. My husband doesn't have to wonder that much, and if he does, he knows he can just ask. That is the only way you figure out how to really please one another. Ask, be honest and always respect what you decide upon. The open/direct approach has worked wonders for us!

it's like cumming on a woman's face;you always see it but do women like it?i would guess probably not.i think if a woman likes to have contact with a man's cum,she either likes to swallow,or just watch.idea for a new thread,but it's probably been done.my wife likes the taste,but she also love to watch me cum.she says it's a phenom.

 

[B_Stronzo]

So let me ask you this: Do you indeed think this whole being an ass hole thing is one sided? That it does not occur in the gay community? I'm not being smart, I'd really like to know. I can't imagine it to be true because gay or straight we are humans each with our own set of tendencies, good and bad. I still can't agree that this whole trend is relative only to hetero men.

That's the spirit.

It's not 'being an asshole' that this concerns. It's who governs them that's in question.

To answer your question curious gurl I think there's much focus (not pressure) on gay men to be sexually active anally. I think it's what most heterosexuals generally assume "we all" do in bed in truth.

But I'm pleased you inquired.

Since men appear to need a hole to enter I suspect it's the reason many tops wind up with bottoms. But I cannot speak to it as some spokesperson for the homosexual community. I'm not typically homosexual in a stereotyped sort of way.

I will tell you that I've never heard anyone say "oh my boyfriend said I had to let him fuck me so I just bit that pillow and got through it". No I haven't heard that. I've always found the gay couples with whom I have contact to have early-on established an equitable division of sexual interests and proclivities.

In short? Gay dudes are chatty.


I'm a pretty oral fellow by nature so I gratify my needs most often in that fashion. And when it comes to heterosexuality I have no desire to fuck a woman's asshole. I like pussy when I stray from the norm.


But in truth I don't see gay men as setting any "standard" for general sexual behavior. So that analogy doesn't really work for me. We're seen as fringe memebers of this space by mainstream society . And just perhaps that makes it all the more appealing to me in fact. Being humdrum and mundane would undoubtedly be a pain worse than death, no?

Your intentions, I believe are to downgrade hetero men. The reason for that is one that I have no desire to understand.

Well no. They (some of them) 'downgrade' themselves very easily with no help from my corner. Reread some of my rebukes....

In fact, I like heterosexual men actually. Some of them have lovely penises.

I find their company preferable to gay ones in real life and here (as my friendly on-this-board connections will readily demonstrate). The only 100% gay fellow on this board who has my utter and total respect is Daverock. I don't know what that all says about your critique of me but there you have it.

My opinion is that the heterosexual male has been so indoctrinated to believe that he rules all things (the Old Testment is the easiest thing to call back to here for brevity's sake) that it naturally - though unfortunately - spills over to a subliminal taking over of things in the bedroom. Hell. Most women aren't even aware it's how the standard is set as this volley will attest.

It's that "mainstreaming of hetero-based sexuality" as the only legitimate norm that I'd seek to change. In all honesty I find it a threat in the end (pun intended) to their tentative status as the natural descendants of neaderthal gatherers. In short? "The times they are 'a changin'" ... or they ought to be.

You tickle me Stronzo. Even your "thank you" was condescending. I don't know wether to hate or love that about you, even when it's directed at me I get a kick out of it. I hope you never get banned again, you are fun to argue with!

Thanks. You tickle me too.

And in that case my 'thank you' was genuine. Never misinterpret my diction for arrogance. It'll make you view me with suspicion at every turn and will easily put us at odds. I have certain delivery. That's all.

As for the banning thing? Beh.

Please note: Forgive the odd variation in script boldness and size here. The standard was set by the poster to whom I'm directly addressing this response and I'm too lazy to work at changing it.

 

[Pumblechook]

I'm trying to compose myself for the last 3 days that this topic has been going on... and to be honest... somehow I have managed it.

Only for the sake that my fellow LPSG posters have completely ripped into you for being an ignorant simpleton... and I commend them for that!

These folks are helping to make LPSG a place where people with REAL problems/concerns/questions/wonders can come and get advice.. and that is wonderful.

Oh, wow, we are sooooo impressed that you can post some sensatoinalism crap and get a bunch of views and replies... but does anyone respect that at all?




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Ohhh yea, and to edit this post... the ONLY experience I have had with "the other orifice" was suggested from my GIRLfriend (I.E. A woman, yes female, girl, not man/male/boy, the opposite of man/male/boy, .... hopefully you understand how I am defnining at least in judiciary terms a woman now.... lol.).

To be honest, I have never had anal sex of any kind so far. Althought my most recent gf definately wanted to at some point, we never got that far... and honestly as novices in that area we didn't know exactly how to manage the logistics in that area...

Ok, so my final advice is to anone who actually reads a post this far down on the page of a topic this loaded..... is to just ignore it.

From a 'business' point of view it is good to have complete ingrates post on a site....I know this from my in depth website studies and just ... umm look at websites (especially forums) !!!
Which means a certain poster in this topic will NEVER be banned because of their ignorance.... for they really spark up business in this area.... which is really what we need if LPSG is going to survive.

But... what I would love is to see LPSG posters actually ignore posts by complete fools and not pay a minute's attention to them. Just let it go, don't let your inner rage against stupidity flair up, for someone without that much sophistication will easily give up and disappear if you pay no regard.

 

[Lordpendragon]

In all honesty I find it a threat in the end (pun intended) to their tentative status as the natural descendants of neaderthal gatherers.

There are competing theories as to why the Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) became extinct, but as you can clearly see from their name it was because they were homos.

 

[B_Stronzo]

I'm trying to compose myself for the last 3 days that this topic has been going on... and to be honest... somehow I have managed it.

Well done.

Pity you've lost it now.

Ok, so my final advice is to anone who actually reads a post this far down on the page of a topic this loaded..... is to just ignore it.

From a 'business' point of view it is good to have complete ingrates post on a site....I know this from my in depth website studies and just ... umm look at websites (especially forums) !!!
Which means a certain poster in this topic will NEVER be banned because of their ignorance.... for they really spark up business in this area.... which is really what we need if LPSG is going to survive.

But... what I would love is to see LPSG posters actually ignore posts by complete fools and not pay a minute's attention to them. Just let it go, don't let your inner rage against stupidity flair up, for someone without that much sophistication will easily give up and disappear if you pay no regard.

I hope that was cathartic but if you've read this post you've already negated your own premise.

(ah to be twenty-three, an academic, and have an great big fat opinion)

It makes my heart go pitter pat.

 

[Love-it]

This thread reminds me of a friend who at about 60 years of age was not getting any kind of sex from his wife of many years. Out of desperatinon he suggested that she "Roll over and take it like a man."

 

[Ummagumma]

(let me get an initial apology out of the way for rambling)

Shall we have a go?

I'd rather not, Stronzo... arguments are not my strong suit, and, as I keep learning, around here neither are my jokes :redface: Matthew brought up the criticisms of English, so I mispelled 'touché' on purpose...

I have lost track of this 'anal sex' argument, and considering I'm up at 5 am writing a paper for my philosophy class, I can't devote much time or effort to this thread, but from what I've read on here this past week... I don't really understand where all the anger being thrown at you is coming from. At least not from a few posters here.

I know that I'm not the most qualified on the subject at hand, and that I haven't read all the posts, but I think I agree with you on the 'anal sex issue'. I can only offer this single story from me and my often referred to but never seen ex-girlfriend for discussion in this thread:

One night we were going at it in the 'doggy style' position, and I slipped out. I grabbed my penis and as I went to find her pussy in the dark room, it slid near her ass, causing her to timidly say, "you... you don't want anal... do you?" I reassured her that it wasn't 'my thing', and we went back on our merry way of dick/pussy interaction. But going back to what she told me then, there was one thing I could sense: fear, or the very least worry. She admitted to me after having sex one time (and it possibly was that same night, it would make sense) that she had done anal with other guys. But it sure seemed to me that she didn't exactly crave it in 'the other orifice' as she did with her pussy (and she did crave it in there, oh how she craved it :tongue. I do not want to veer too far off the course talking about our relationship, but that entire situation reeked of her doing something against her will to keep me happy and around. Maybe she did enjoy it with others, I don't know. I'm a bit thicker than average down there though, and I think we both knew it would have been risky, so I'm glad I didn't try.

You said it first, and you said it best:

Girls have pussies and their awesome. I've been there. I know. Why do you need another hole?? For the love of Christ. If you like women then love their pussies.

That is exactly how I feel on this issue. When I was in my early teens I guess you could say I 'realized I was straight'. I spent the next few years after that (before I found places like this or porn in general really) dreaming about pussies. It was all I thought about, it was what I wanted. Not anal sex. Nor oral - I've written that elsewhere I believe, but oral sex means going down on her to get her ready for penetration, I could care less about a 'quality blowjob' even.

I've never had anal sex. I don't plan too. Even when I watch porn, I skip through it. A dick sliding in and out of a pussy is such an amazing visual for me, but in and out of an ass? Not so much... it looks like the ass is merely doing what it's paid to... or something... I don't know how to best put it to words, but it doesn't do anything for me, period point blank. But are there women out there that do enjoy it, that's not for me to answer, I'm a man. Although your point about the lack of a prostate seems to make sense to me...

I've written more on here in the last hour than my paper. Curse you lpsg! Although I do wonder how Immanuel Kant felt about some of these subjects...

 

[Lordpendragon]

Although I do wonder how Immanuel Kant felt about some of these subjects...

His opinion would have been most interesting I imagine.

I don't think that he would have conceived anal as a categorical imperative as desire is not rational. However in the case where someone succumbs out of a rational decision above their natural proclivity, then the issue of free will begins.

Perhaps you could ask your class.

 

[Ummagumma]

Perhaps you could ask your class.

Unfortunately my teacher really isn't the type for such discussions this semester. Very stuck up - a philosophy class with no open discussion is pointless in my opinion but it's too late for me to drop now.

One thing I'd like to add to my previous post:

In the past I have mentioned my love of 'mmf' porn. This type of sex, especially in the pornography industry, depends heavily on anal penetration... which I just said I always skip through (and I do in any 1-on-1 type scene). I enjoy watching this for some odd reason, although as I can't say why exactly. I think it's more about seeing a woman be pleased in a way no single man could provide, and even then I tend not to project myself onto the guy doing the anal, but it is going on in front of me.

I realize my hypocrisy here (anti-anal, but pro-dp so to say), although I can't offer a very good explanation for it. But I admit, I'm curious, what are your views on such a sexual encounter (two men and one woman) Stronzo? I'm not looking to start another argument, I'm just intrigued by your views on such manners...

 

[bluekarma]

This topic has gone about as far off topic as possible without actually forgetting the topic, its quite amusing that whilst addressing the issue at hand, all comments and responses in some way are being directed at one, single, misunderstood poster.

True, we did go off topic, but I ended up learning something. In my opinion a discussion going off topic is not a bad thing. The dialogue may not always be genteel or even appropriate, but isn't that what sometimes makes a good debate significant?

I suggest, that we find closure here before we all end up behaving like children in the school yard arguing simply for the reason of arguing.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think we had already done that. I appreciate your concern, but I think as adults we are capable of brining closure to a topic at our own will. Had things gotten out of hand, there are moderators to step in and, uh, moderate.

The topic was worth while, it was something worth talk about, we've spoken about it now. We've established that there is a large percentage of people out there who expect things that in all honesty aren't a given in any new relationship, and we've established that some people aren't confident enough to speak up about it. We've concluded this as fact, and that we dislike this fact. I really don't see the need for any more to be said on the matter myself.

Yeah, no more needs to be said on this topic. There are several things I'd like to continue discussing, so I'll start a new thread, maybe. The topic may or may not have ended at it's own velocity, but if it made you feel better to intervene, that's cool.

 

[bluekarma]

Thanks Stronzo. All of this really is interesting to me, and I appreciate your being so open for the sake of my ignorance. My curiosity of homosexuality is one reason I enjoy this board so much, and also why I PM'd you that day. Your delivery is more often than not refreshing and always articulate, I appreciate that. I think I'm in bitch mode here lately, so just ignore me when I get on a roll.

That's the spirit.

It's not 'being an asshole' that this concerns. It's who governs them that's in question.

To answer your question curious gurl I think there's much focus (not pressure) on gay men to be sexually active anally. I think it's what most heterosexuals generally assume "we all" do in bed in truth.

But I'm pleased you inquired.

Since men appear to need a hole to enter I suspect it's the reason many tops wind up with bottoms. But I cannot speak to it as some spokesperson for the homosexual community. I'm not typically homosexual in a stereotyped sort of way.

I will tell you that I've never heard anyone say "oh my boyfriend said I had to let him fuck me so I just bit that pillow and got through it". No I haven't heard that. I've always found the gay couples with whom I have contact to have early-on established an equitable division of sexual interests and proclivities.

In short? Gay dudes are chatty.


I'm a pretty oral fellow by nature so I gratify my needs most often in that fashion. And when it comes to heterosexuality I have no desire to fuck a woman's asshole. I like pussy when I stray from the norm.


But in truth I don't see gay men as setting any "standard" for general sexual behavior. So that analogy doesn't really work for me. We're seen as fringe memebers of this space by mainstream society . And just perhaps that makes it all the more appealing to me in fact. Being humdrum and mundane would undoubtedly be a pain worse than death, no?



Well no. They (some of them) 'downgrade' themselves very easily with no help from my corner. Reread some of my rebukes....

In fact, I like heterosexual men actually. Some of them have lovely penises.

I find their company preferable to gay ones in real life and here (as my friendly on-this-board connections will readily demonstrate). The only 100% gay fellow on this board who has my utter and total respect is Daverock. I don't know what that all says about your critique of me but there you have it.

My opinion is that the heterosexual male has been so indoctrinated to believe that he rules all things (the Old Testment is the easiest thing to call back to here for brevity's sake) that it naturally - though unfortunately - spills over to a subliminal taking over of things in the bedroom. Hell. Most women aren't even aware it's how the standard is set as this volley will attest.

It's that "mainstreaming of hetero-based sexuality" as the only legitimate norm that I'd seek to change. In all honesty I find it a threat in the end (pun intended) to their tentative status as the natural descendants of neaderthal gatherers. In short? "The times they are 'a changin'" ... or they ought to be.



Thanks. You tickle me too.

And in that case my 'thank you' was genuine. Never misinterpret my diction for arrogance. It'll make you view me with suspicion at every turn and will easily put us at odds. I have certain delivery. That's all.

As for the banning thing? Beh.

Please note: Forgive the odd variation in script boldness and size here. The standard was set by the poster to whom I'm directly addressing this response and I'm too lazy to work at changing it.

 

[bluekarma]

Understood - and admittedly I am not doing the best job interpreting posts the past few weeks! I appreciate you being the bigger person and sending me a PM- says a lot in my book! I should not have jumped the gun and responded the way I did. I just felt as if I was being told to "sit down and shut up" when all I wanted was to be heard. So anyway...I read through a bunch of your posts and what a cool person you are!! I guess this was one way of getting to know one another. Thanks for posting this, and for the PM, you have yourself a great evening. xoxo

My intentions when making that post seem to have not been clear. It was not meant as some form of dictation, and I was not claiming to be more mature than some other posters. It was prompted by several PMs recieved stating some rather unpleasant accusations in regards to this thread.

It was not aimed at anyone posting in this thread (from what I recall none of those who PM'd me have actually posted in this thread) it was aimed at those clearly reading it and jumping on board with other agendas, using aspects of personalities mentioned in other posts here.

I appologise for not being clear, it was an attempt at not having to go into large amounts of details, and I appologise if it caused any bad feelings.

 

[alien51]

yeah! it was fun.i just didn't expect such a huge response.guess you never really know what's on people's minds until you ask,which is the nice thing about this site.we learn when we ask and don't get a bunch of bullshit answers,opinion,and agenda.so my next thread will have nothing to do with sex.it will be a big surprise!

 

[Matthew]

so my next thread will have nothing to do with sex.it will be a big surprise!

Will it be about aliens?

'Cause aliens are cool.

 

[TimBuckTooth]

Im going to quickly gloss over a post a made in another thread, as it seems that the same is happening here.

I myself misunderstood some of the meanings or intentions of stronzos posts on this matter. Only after reading his response to one of my own did I actually realise my own mistake.

Im very grateful that he made his comments, even if they were made in a way which left them open to misinterpretations. He brought to the open something which has been annoying me for years.

It started with new bf's expecting blow jobs, just kind of sticking it in my face, without a word, then a few years down the line it became the same story but for anal sex. Now, I personally have no issue with either, infact I enjoy both, but I'm increasingly concerned by the amount of friends coming to me either because some guy they were with last night, has during their normal sexual activities, stuck it up her ass without question nor comment, or because he was polite enough to mention it first and when told "Sorry hon, I just don't like it" he's walked out on her in persuit of someone "less frigid".

So ok, he worded it wrong and people misunderstood, but come on, he's made it more than clear what his intentions were when he made his posts.

I asked this question on the other thread as well: Why is it OK (I'm assuming most WILL say it is OK) for a guy to leave a girl who won't give him the vaginal or oral sex that he desires, but not OK for him to leave a girl who won't give him the anal sex he desires?

 

[Tonkatoy]

I knew a woman who greatly prefered anal to vaginal sex, to the point that she really wasn't interested in vaginal sex. She also prefered her g spot to be stimulated via the back door.

I cant see how you could stimulate a ladys G spot via the back door, the G spot is on the FRONT wall of the Vagina, cant see how you could push hard enough through two skin walls to touch the front, maybe I am wrong though?

 

[vibratingfinger]

I cant see how you could stimulate a ladys G spot via the back door, the G spot is on the FRONT wall of the Vagina, cant see how you could push hard enough through two skin walls to touch the front, maybe I am wrong though?

No you're right. this woman must have been fucked in the ass so many times that the wear and tear eventually connected her ass and vagina through a hole in the back wall of her vagina. The result was perpendicular stimulation of the G-spot after the penis passes through both holes which is apparently extremely pleasurable. This is the only way that description can be physically explained. This is the new craze among women.