Whether immigration laws are important rather depends on whether you think the United States is, or is not, a country. A country without any control of its borders isn't a country, it's a road.
I think I already said that. A law is, in real terms as important, and thus enforeable as it is considered to be by those who are tasked to enforce it, as to those subject to it.
It's not that difficult. Illegal immigrants are, prima facie, criminals. Legal immigrants may or may not be criminals, but at least they don't automatically start out as criminals as their first action on entering the U.S.
I said that too:
"Certainly, committing an illegal act is perhaps not the best start in a new home but as a neighbour I'd prefer an otherwise law abiding 'illegal' than a native citizen cum axe murderer/rapist/childmolester."
They may immediately embark on crime sprees after legal arrival, but that's not really the point at issue. Nobody has postulated that murderers, rapists, embezzlers, etc. are not criminals or that they shouldn't be handled by our ponderous law enforcement machinery.
Of course not, but then as I don't recall saying otherwise I'm not sure of your point.
As for the
point. I think that's almost entirely the point, at least based on some of arguments I've read on this topic. The underlying implication that illegal immigrants (I'm referring to those form south of the the border) are somehow moral defectives
by definition, appeared quite evident, if sometimes veiled. Not (so far) in this thread especially, but in others.
It's entirely unclear how
you feel about illegal immigration beyond deeming it illegal.
If there was actually some consensus that they should be enforced, perhaps they would be. We don't seem to have that consensus.
Very true. Here too. But then I think I said that too, here and elsewhere.
No victory is permanent. That doesn't imply that it is not, after all, a victory.
Depending on what side you're on of course. But I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean in the context of this bill however. Certainly it's not a victory, or a defeat for me as such, I have no vote in the matter, I'm just an interested observer.
Alternatively, if you've gone a bit tangental then yes, today's events in London reflect, so it appears so far, a victory for law enforement and thus for innocent civilians, much like myself. Being neither a terrorist nor craving involuntary immolation I'm naturally very happy about that.
I imagine you say much the same thing after a terrorist attack is foiled.
Actually, based on your earlier comments on that theme I think that may be more
your bag. Amateur psychology isn't your thing is it?
