For a little about me please see my "USA is the best country thread".
This whole debate works both ways, I would like people that keeping saying we are the greatest nation in the world to STFU, but this thread is about people that say the USA sucks, you can STFU too.
Yes, we have our issues, yes we sometimes fit the "ugly american" sterotype. But in the same breath in some ways we have earned it.
I agree we sometimes stick our nose in places that it doesn't belong and we get a little pushy with projecting our way of life. However, think about it for a few minutes next time you say the US sucks. Think about all the times we DID stick our noses in certain places and what would have happened if we didn't.
What would the world be like as a hole if we did not get involved in WWI or WWII? In the past 100+ years no nation has sacrificed as many of its sons and daughters for the cause of other nations as the US has. We provide more aid to nations in need than any other nation as well, even nations that "don't like us". I am not talking tax dollars that are sent over, as a % we are not as high as other nations. I am talking from a civilian standpoint and what we give to international charities on top of what we give as a nation from tax dollars.
We are arguably one the most hated/scrutinized country in the world. Even with 9/11 we still more or less have an open boarder policy, which I don't like at all. We have social issues but we are also the most diverse country in the world, which is what leads to these issues. There are a lot of other countries out there that practice heinous acts against minorities and women. Again, yes we have our share of social issues, but if you compare the scale, well, you can't. We don't beat our women for showing their faces in public, we don't massacre and bury 100s of our own civilians because they belong to another religion/clan/sect etc.
We are the country people love to hate until they need us. Then they pick up the batphone and expect us to make sacrifices again because they are in need.
I've stated this before, I would like to pull all of our resources within our borders for 5 years and see what happens. I'm guessing it wouldn't be pretty.
So yes, we have issues, we are far from perfect. Granted, we need to look at ourselves before judging other nations and their way of life. However, we have also paid a high price to make sure other nations were/are able to live the way they want why staring in the face of being eliminated or being occupied. Mistakes happen, but you know what shut the fuck up, we've earned the right to make some here and there. Regardless of mistakes we've made and/or are making the world is in fact better off due to us being involved. Again, look at it with an open mind and try to imagine what would things be like if we turned a blind eye to everything during the past 100 years......answer that honestly. Before judging the US, you need to self reflect as well, a country doesn't exsist that hasn't made horrible mistakes.
Signed,
A 4th generation Veteran.
This whole debate works both ways, I would like people that keeping saying we are the greatest nation in the world to STFU, but this thread is about people that say the USA sucks, you can STFU too.
Yes, we have our issues, yes we sometimes fit the "ugly american" sterotype. But in the same breath in some ways we have earned it.
I agree we sometimes stick our nose in places that it doesn't belong and we get a little pushy with projecting our way of life. However, think about it for a few minutes next time you say the US sucks. Think about all the times we DID stick our noses in certain places and what would have happened if we didn't.
What would the world be like as a hole if we did not get involved in WWI or WWII? In the past 100+ years no nation has sacrificed as many of its sons and daughters for the cause of other nations as the US has. We provide more aid to nations in need than any other nation as well, even nations that "don't like us". I am not talking tax dollars that are sent over, as a % we are not as high as other nations. I am talking from a civilian standpoint and what we give to international charities on top of what we give as a nation from tax dollars.
We are arguably one the most hated/scrutinized country in the world. Even with 9/11 we still more or less have an open boarder policy, which I don't like at all. We have social issues but we are also the most diverse country in the world, which is what leads to these issues. There are a lot of other countries out there that practice heinous acts against minorities and women. Again, yes we have our share of social issues, but if you compare the scale, well, you can't. We don't beat our women for showing their faces in public, we don't massacre and bury 100s of our own civilians because they belong to another religion/clan/sect etc.
We are the country people love to hate until they need us. Then they pick up the batphone and expect us to make sacrifices again because they are in need.
I've stated this before, I would like to pull all of our resources within our borders for 5 years and see what happens. I'm guessing it wouldn't be pretty.
So yes, we have issues, we are far from perfect. Granted, we need to look at ourselves before judging other nations and their way of life. However, we have also paid a high price to make sure other nations were/are able to live the way they want why staring in the face of being eliminated or being occupied. Mistakes happen, but you know what shut the fuck up, we've earned the right to make some here and there. Regardless of mistakes we've made and/or are making the world is in fact better off due to us being involved. Again, look at it with an open mind and try to imagine what would things be like if we turned a blind eye to everything during the past 100 years......answer that honestly. Before judging the US, you need to self reflect as well, a country doesn't exsist that hasn't made horrible mistakes.
Signed,
A 4th generation Veteran.
