The perfect "first" date

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Just a thought, OT though it is... maybe basincreek was being the kind of whining little 'pity me pity me' bitch he is in threads here and she just had enough and upped and left.

It'd put me off my food.
 

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Just a thought, OT though it is... maybe basincreek was being the kind of whining little 'pity me pity me' bitch he is in threads here and she just had enough and upped and left.

It'd put me off my food.

It would for me, too.

I have wondered this before, whether BasinCreek might be creating self-fulfilling prophecies by acting in ways that support his self-defeating beliefs, such as sabotaging his very rare dates so that he can use them to generate more pity for himself from other people and let himself off the hook about trying to go out on another date for another few years.

I have suspected that there might be some sort of emotional pay-off for his decade-long unhealthy behavior since the beginning, a pay-off that is more than just a fear of rejection.
 
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Actually my therapist thinks I'm self sabotaging too. I'm not too keen on the idea because it makes me also at fault but she has brought up some things like the fact that I mentioned the walk out date to the next date. Which might have made her less likely to be attracted to me.

But I honestly don't recall doing anything weird around the girl that left with another dude. I was on an anti-depressant then and very much wanted it to work. I really think that was just a rare bitch. Backing that up is the fact that the guy that set that blind date up had a tendency to hang out with messed up women.



--Oh and thanks for calling me a "bitch." I appreciate that. :rolleyes:
 
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Basincreek you showed a lot of class being a gentleman on the planning for that date. I am so sorry she was not the girl for you. Sign up on some real well known dating sites and I am sure you will be able to get plenty of dates. The flower or gift at the end of the date is also a great touch!


Dating sites blow. In my experience, the same kind of douchey assholes I've gone out with from real life are just better at covering their douchey behavior in an online forum.
 

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Dinner can be tricky if you're worried about keeping the conversation going. How about taking her to see some live music if you know what she's into, a comedy club, or an art gallery that has a restaurant or cafe.

I love flowers but I'd prefer them after the first date rather than as a gift at the time. If you do take her flowers, or send them, think quality not quantity.
 

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Dinner can be tricky if you're worried about keeping the conversation going. How about taking her to see some live music if you know what she's into, a comedy club, or an art gallery that has a restaurant or cafe.

I love flowers but I'd prefer them after the first date rather than as a gift at the time. If you do take her flowers, or send them, think quality not quantity.
*takes notes*:wink:
 

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A "whining little 'pity me pity me' bitch", actually - don't leave out the qualifiers - they're usually the pertinent bit.

I'm not sure it really "adds" to the insult but...whatever.

Are you really into the "alpha male" thing? I'm just curious.
 

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Dinner can be tricky if you're worried about keeping the conversation going. How about taking her to see some live music if you know what she's into, a comedy club, or an art gallery that has a restaurant or cafe.

I love flowers but I'd prefer them after the first date rather than as a gift at the time. If you do take her flowers, or send them, think quality not quantity.


So we're talking Waitrose petrol station forecourt, not Shell / BP then?! :smile:

On a more serious note, a comedy club is a pretty good idea becasuse it puts you both in a good mood and doesn't require a constant flow of conversation.
 

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Don't go to a movie. No chance to talk. Dinner or as an informal date, coffee, at a coffee shop.

Ask what makes her heart happy.
Time together?
Quality conversation?
Little gifts?
Touching?
Acts of kindness?

If her happiness comes from something you love to do, your relationship has a pretty good chance.

But sit and talk, somewhere comfortable. I like my place, because I can make some tea, sit on the couch, talk, let her see my home and a part of me.
 

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Since it's come up I thought I'd give a more complete account of that awful blind date. Perhaps average_d can get some tips on what to look for it starts going terrible.

Well, it didn't start well in the first place because I couldn't pick her up at her place. This old woman who lived across the street (she's since passed away) named Barbra had her cat get hit by a car. She couldn't drive so I had to rush Mr Wriggles (the cat) to the vet. I called Mandy (the date) up and told her to meet me at the restaurant. She sounded kind of miffed but agreed. This meant I had to ruin the surprise of where we were going. I had been able to get us into a very nice place in the cellar of a stone winery.

Anyways, with Mr Wriggles taken care of (the cat is still alive incidentally) I went home to change and in my rush put the shoes I had been wearing to tennis back on. So I'm sure I looked pretty damned odd with white sneakers, slacks and a turtleneck. :redface:

So I was a bit taken aback when I saw her. Dead ringer for Summer Glau and, for what it's worth, she didn't seem to notice or care when I walked in looking like I did. In fact she didn't seem to care about anything. I tried to talk to her by asking her about herself but everything was met with simplistic answers and no elaborations.

"So, do blind dates often?"

"No."

"So....where do you work?"

"Wolfsden."

That was a gentleman's club. "As a bartender?"

"Stripper."

"Doing anything else? School?"

"Studying to become a phlebotomist." But nothing more.

I jokingly asked her if she had always been into blood or if it was "goth phase." I got a blank stare in return.

It was pretty obvious this was going nowhere and I began to think about just getting this over with when this douchebag in a silver suit sauntered over and started talking to Mandy about how she was obviously uncomfortable and needed to cut me loose. I still held out hope that the date might be salvaged so I stood up and told him to mind his own business. As I did so I realized he was at least 6'4" but was kinda thin so I thought....maybe I could take him if he turned violent. But, instead, he just smirked and walked over to the bar in the next room.

After I sat back down I wanted to get things away from that distraction and started asking Mandy about her trip to Europe. The friend that had set the blind date up had told me had been to Germany recently.

"Yeah, we were in Munich." And again no elaboration. At this point I was seriously wondering if she was mainlining some smuggled benzo's or something. Then I realized I had to urinate badly. I had meant to go at the vets and had forgotten. So I excused myself and went. But when I came back she was not at the table. I briefly thought she was in the restroom too but then I looked over and saw her at the bar with the silver suit guy. She was actually rather animated talking to him, laughing and had her left hand on the small of his back.

Deflated I sat back down to think about what to do. When I looked back up she was walking out the door with the guy. Now everyone was staring at me realizing what had happened. Embarrassed I asked for my check, paid our bill and left. I went home and played Starcraft for like four hours straight to calm myself.

I gave the antique teddy bear I had bought for Mandy to my niece Jessica when she had a hiking accident that left her in a cast a couple weeks later.




So, I'm not sure what lesson might be learned from that average_d except that a blind date with a stripper might sound nice but could also be a genuinely miserable evening. I guess the other thing is that you'll probably be able to tell if there's chemistry, or a complete lack of it, rather quickly. Perhaps it would be best to save a gift for after you've determined whether there is chemistry or not.


Do you know what 'pertinent' means?

Um....yeah.

I think my definition of 'alpha male' and yours may differ somewhat.

How so?
 

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BC, that was a BLIND DATE! Chances of getting along well and having chemistry with someone you've never met before are actually pretty slim. Dates work much better with people you've gotten to know and like before-hand (or so I've heard. I've not been on too many dates myself).
 

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There're a lot of ways to hit this, depending on how well you know each other and how much sexual chemistry is there. If you see this relationship as starting out innocently/naively and progressing relatively slowly on the physical scale, then you can be a bit cornier. For example, if you're each admittedly nerdy, then maybe by prearrangement you could each bring some discussion objects, such as items you collect or pictures of places you've been to or would like to visit. If the chemistry is mostly there and the physical side seems imminent, then choose some activity that emphasizes the physical and the flirty, such as something involving swimming or (especially) dancing.

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Your posts (those I have read) so far suggest to me that your definition of an alpha male could well include concepts that I would consider non-alpha behaviours, like bossiness, unwarranted commandeering, hostility and misplaced aggression.

As I said in the 'alpha male' thread, that's not an alpha male, that's a little boy doing what he thinks an alpha does because he feels intimidated by other men and wants to intimidate them instead. As many others pointed out in that thread, an alpha male is confident, already assured of his position and, for the most part, never needs to fight for it.

I have no idea from your story if the man you claim your stripper date left with was an alpha male or not. My guess is that he wasn't.

Actually, my guess is that the whole event as you depict it is an exaggeration of an actual event if not an outright lie. I could have believed it if you had not added the 'saving a little old lady's cat made me late for my date, unable to pick her up and badly dressed' part.

It's bollocks, bc. You seem to be here to have some kind of a pity party and you want to engage the women here and have them tell you what a nice and attractive man you are. You seize on every opportunity to sell your sob story, even to the point of hijacking this guy's thread. I have no opinion on whether you are nice or attractive. You do appear to me to be a manipulator. I can avoid you, and I probably will, but I do hate to see some of the genuinely helpful types here at LPSG being conned into feeding your appetite for pity.