The police misconduct thread

[TexanStar]

I avoid the police as much as possible. They never help, and they'll probably shoot somebody.

Ditto.

 

[dirtyarizona]

I worked with Law Enforcement Officers for 5+ years. I never met 1 or knew 1 or worked with 1 who I thought was less than honorable. Of course there are occasional exceptions to the rule, but in the overwhelming number of situations, COPS work to maintain order & enforce the law & catch the bad guys. Without law enforcement, life would devolve into chaos & anarchy within 3 days --- which seems to be what the socialists & the "progressives" & the democrats are hoping will happen, in our beautiful country, the good old USA!

 

[keenobserver]

I worked with Law Enforcement Officers for 5+ years. I never met 1 or knew 1 or worked with 1 who I thought was less than honorable. Of course there are occasional exceptions to the rule, but in the overwhelming number of situations, COPS work to maintain order & enforce the law & catch the bad guys. Without law enforcement, life would devolve into chaos & anarchy within 3 days --- which seems to be what the socialists & the "progressives" & the democrats are hoping will happen, in our beautiful country, the good old USA!

wanting everyone to be treated fairly and without bias does not mean anyone wants chaos and anarchy. Your willingness to be blind to that reality is the problem. The scenario just documented is appalling in the extreme. It should never have happened, and you seem willing to dismiss any concern about it as a call to chaos. That is a big problem.

 

[kidfresh512]

I worked with Law Enforcement Officers for 5+ years. I never met 1 or knew 1 or worked with 1 who I thought was less than honorable. Of course there are occasional exceptions to the rule, but in the overwhelming number of situations, COPS work to maintain order & enforce the law & catch the bad guys. Without law enforcement, life would devolve into chaos & anarchy within 3 days --- which seems to be what the socialists & the "progressives" & the democrats are hoping will happen, in our beautiful country, the good old USA!

My cousin is a police officer. He actually trained with the officer who was killed in Houston a couple weeks ago. Law enforcement has a problem with "mob mentality" in some cases. And its a larger problem of the Justice system in general being harsher and less fair to minorities and the poor.

When the few bad apples are spotted they are normally spotted by the Cops first. Their co workers know when a guy/girl is no good. If we had more of them doing the right thing and saying something before they go out and beat or kill someone then there wouldn't be so much animosity and mistrust. But, there is the "unity" thing that lets the "occasional exceptions" as you say go way too far. And by then it is too late.

Law enforcement , like our elected officials SHOULD be held to high standards. They have to protect EVERYONE, they have to represent EVERYONE. There should be no room for racism etc in their ranks. Those bad apples don't just suddenly get racist one day. There is no way fellow officers didn't see a buildup or escalation of behavior they should have stopped themselves.

Even when they get caught and booted we have seen them just go somewhere else and get a law enforcement job. I mean what does it take? The public just needs to see real effort in the good guys standing up for what is right. Tossing the bad apples out. Not tolerating abuses and racism.

Of course people want to trust and believe in law enforcement. It would be nice if you didn't have to be scared for your life when you see an officer and you didn't do anything in some cases. But, people have experiences that have taught them to be wary, because by the time you realize oh shit this is one of the "occasional exceptions" you are already fucked.

 

[TexanStar]

Without law enforcement, life would devolve into chaos & anarchy within 3 days --- which seems to be what the socialists & the "progressives" & the democrats are hoping will happen,

Yeah... you sound like a cop worshipper alright.

 

[pp_ryder]

I worked with Law Enforcement Officers for 5+ years. I never met 1 or knew 1 or worked with 1 who I thought was less than honorable. Of course there are occasional exceptions to the rule, but in the overwhelming number of situations, COPS work to maintain order & enforce the law & catch the bad guys. Without law enforcement, life would devolve into chaos & anarchy within 3 days --- which seems to be what the socialists & the "progressives" & the democrats are hoping will happen, in our beautiful country, the good old USA!

I was with you right up until you started the sentence, "Without law enforcement..." and you turned it into a totally biased political opinion. ENOUGH OF THE RIGHT WING BS, ALREADY!

 

[pp_ryder]

...Of course people want to trust and believe in law enforcement. It would be nice if you didn't have to be scared for your life when you see an officer and you didn't do anything in some cases. But, people have experiences that have taught them to be wary, because by the time you realize oh shit this is one of the "occasional exceptions" you are already fucked.

Been there, done that and I had a judge who was on the take. We asked how much it would cost to "fix this" and were told that they don't take bribes. He was kicked off the bench a few years later for... guess what?

 

[AlteredEgo]

Even when they get caught and booted we have seen them just go somewhere else and get a law enforcement job. I mean what does it take? The public just needs to see real effort in the good guys standing up for what is right. Tossing the bad apples out. Not tolerating abuses and racism.

This part.

I have had so few positive encounters with police as an adult, and so many negative ones. My brothers have had only negative ones. I am given little cause to be trusting, and so much cause for concern, and most of my family is in enforcement. When police approach me, I prepare for the worst. They aren't even usually polite to me, and I am ALWAYS respectful toward them.

Just last week I was in court to fight a traffic ticket following an accident. The police officer had continued TWICE because he was out sick. So, when we approached the bench, I said I was glad he was feeling better, and hoped he remained well, and thanked him for his service to his community. He was unprepared to prosecute. (The ticket was hearsay anyway because he wasn't there when I allegedly failed to yield during a left turn.) He lost the paperwork. It is likely he simply had it mis-filed. Every name in my full name was misspelled a different way and in the wrong order on every document the state gave me (original summons, two subpoenas) and had been almost impossible to even locate on the docket. So, I'm not surprised he lost his written record. I moved to dismiss and the judge granted my motion. I turned again to the officer and thanked him for his time and service. He rolled his eyes at me. Imagine if I had failed to show up to court twice and then rolled my eyes at him for wishing him well! And that was one of my better experiences.

I pulled over to catch a nap very late one night because my driving was becoming impaired and I didn't know where I was. The cop who approached me had a light shining in my face, so I couldn't see to comply with his orders to open my window. I was so startled and flustered I dropped my key, and couldn't see it. The dome light wouldn't come on. By the time I rolled down the window, his pistol was drawn.

When he asked about my expired refistration sticker, I tried to explain the registration was current, but a new sticker was not issued. He kept yelling at me about that being my fault, and that I was irresponsible, but at least he had put the stupid gun away. When he returned from running my plates, and checking my license, he said he now understood, that my registration was current, and I was free to go.

He did not apologize for his rudeness nor for threatening to shoot me. He did however give me directions to a Wal-Mart where it would be safer to park for my nap. I was too afraid to do anything but drive the last hour and change to my house. He was the second cop to draw a pistol on me. At least the other one apologized. Neither was my worst experience.

The worst cop I ever met fondled me. Her partner watched and said nothing. I was handcuffed that time, and the cuffs cut me. They did not read me my rights. The desk sergeant said they had no grounds to arrest me. Even if I had done what they said I did (I had not) they were only supposed to write a ticket. The desk sergeant apologized to me, but the detectives did not. When they initially hauled me in, it was to dozens of accolades from other cops we passed. I know she was a known problem. A lieutenant had arrived on scene and asked if I had been searched. She quickly volunteered to search me again. He gave her a dirty look anf said no. Her searches had included squeezing my breasts. She had conducted seven of them. Nobody has ever searched me like that but her. She wasn't looking for contraband, she was fondling me. I tried to press charges, but that went nowhere.

I have many stories of mistreatment by cops. The one thing they have in common is nobody else in the department cares. They can all go fuck themselves. I do not ask them for shit, and I do not commit crimes. I keep them out of my life to the extent possible.

 

[ronin001]

The police misconduct thread

Sorry A/E

 

[kidfresh512]

Former Fort Worth Police Officer Aaron Dean Charged With Murder For Shooting Atatiana Jefferson

Good first step.

 

[TexanStar]

Former Fort Worth Police Officer Aaron Dean Charged With Murder For Shooting Atatiana Jefferson

Good first step.

necessary first step, anyways. It won't bring her back any more than Guyger's trial brought botham jean back.

Guyger just got convicted a couple weeks back and it didn't stop this guy from being phobic about civilians.

PD/Sheriff departments around here need to start getting serious about this flagrant disregard for human life.

 

[AlteredEgo]

We need to stop calling these people law ENFORCEMENT officers. Whatever happened to calling them peace officers? Maybe of we go back to that, they can remember that their job is to keep the peace by detaining suspected lawbreakers for trial by judge and jury.

 

[phonehome]

necessary first step, anyways. It won't bring her back any more than Guyger's trial brought botham jean back.

Guyger just got convicted a couple weeks back and it didn't stop this guy from being phobic about civilians.

PD/Sheriff departments around here need to start getting serious about this flagrant disregard for human life.

Both of them on the job about a year

Both well indoctrinated in "shoot first, ask questions NEVER"

Will not take much of a review to find that neither should have ever been given a badge and a gun

I just hope that no one in this family makes the MISTAKE of wanting to hug and/or "forgiving" "the defendant" in court in front of the jury

 

[TexanStar]

 

[pp_ryder]

Just unbelievable. Well, I wish it was unbelievable.

 

[trapmusik6]

Wow I always forget there is a politics forum on here. This thread must be hella depressing smh. Alot of people think police don't have enough power or protection. They don't know we're already in the beginnings of becoming a police state.

 

[TexanStar]

'I got my rights to do anything I want to do! I'm a police officer!' —This cop detained two Black shoppers for being 'suspicious' until another officer intervened

 

[dirtyarizona]

There's 10x or 50x more civilian misconduct than there is police misconduct.

 

[StormfrontFL]

There's 10x or 50x more civilian misconduct than there is police misconduct.

Maybe it's because there are more civilians than there are police?

How much is too much? One alligator can kill you just as fifty can. Police officers are expected to uphold a higher standard.

My gosh! I feel that we have to operate on half a brain (get down to your level) to get you guys to understand.

 

[deleted15807]

There's 10x or 50x more civilian misconduct than there is police misconduct.

And uhhh we can’t work on both?