The police misconduct thread

[jtm011]

There are several lessons to be learned from the French Revolution . . . including a little thing called the Terror, followed not long after by the Napoleonic Wars. As for the Russian Revolution and where it led in the decades that followed . . .

So I'm not entirely sanguine about another major insurrection and what it might bring. But to each his own.

I cited those two revolutions because they happened a little before 1960 and a little outside of San Francisco's borders.

 

[Klingsor]

I cited those two revolutions because they happened a little before 1960 and a little outside of San Francisco's borders.

I understand, but I also think they're instructive about the Pandora's Box of violent revolution. Not something I would enjoy being in the middle of, or would want to promote beforehand. But I suppose it's a matter of temperament.

 

[Boobalaa]

There will come a time in the not too distant future when the majority of middle class American will group together en masse and take back control of government and people in positions of power that have swung so far out of control. And when this happens the blood of those people will fill the streets like you cannot imagine. Study your history and you will understand that this has been the pattern of mankind for thousands of years, you will start to see the signs falling into place. And this time it will make the American Revolution look like kindergarten.

so..wait a minute..what about The Civil War?, Did that have an effect on the riots in the 60's? Are you're saying all of the riots in the 60's had no effect on what is happening now? Or is it that you didn't prophesize those riots were going to happen, or maybe black people are not considered middle class? Notwithstanding your millennium fetish, how do you define "not too distant future"?
Did you ever watch "Pulp Fiction"? You remind me of The Samuel L. Jackson character Jules
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Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you." :biggrin1:

 

[ActionBuddy]

And, now, back to the Present:

"Scenes of Chaos in Baltimore as Thousands Protest Freddie Gray’s Death":

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/u...s-in-protest-of-freddie-grays-death.html?_r=0

"Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says":

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/23/u...olice-van-baltimore-officers-lawyer-says.html

 

[jtm011]

so..wait a minute..what about The Civil War?, Did that have an effect on the riots in the 60's?

I never mentioned the 60s, you did. And you clearly missed the gist of the argument.

 

[Fuzzy_]

"Mr. Gray’s arrest, which was captured on a cellphone video that shows him being dragged, seemingly limp, into a police van, has revived a debate in this city over police practices."

Police in that area are known to do "nickel rides," which is where they handcuff somebody, put them in the back of a van, and speed around town in such a way that the person ends up black and blue.

But this may not have happened here. Although Gray appeared to be 'walking' to the van, his spine may already have been severed. But whether his spine was severed in the van or while being beaten, his spine was still severed due of the actions of those police officers.

 

[Boobalaa]

I never mentioned the 60s, you did. And you clearly missed the gist of the argument.

The "gist" of the Thread was missed intentionally, by your irrelevant arrogant abstract on thousands thousands of years of human history threads and pendulum swinging, while you ignored the meaning of the title of the thread. Your sniveling adolescent reply, "I never mentioned the 60's, you did.." Belies your pompous pubescent attitude towards RACE in the USA! The thread is about events involving Police Misconduct in the USA against Black People in the USA!
Since you claim to know so much about threads of human history and revolutions, you totally missed the gist of what Jefferson Davis called, "The Second American Revolution" and the confederacy called, The War Between the States; The Civil War.
100 years after the Civil War, the shit hit the fan during the 1960's. What began in the 1950's as a non-violent boycott based on Gandhi's non-violent civil disobedience of the 1940's during India's Independence Movement; escalated into riots by the mid to late 1960's caused mainly by the institutionalization and normalizing of Violence by the Government of the United States, in the form of Police Misconduct against American Citizens, the Veitnam War and serial assasinations!
Roughly 50 years later, thanks to communication technology, We are seeing uncensored police misconduct is with us here and now, and most likely in the "not too distant future"

 

[jtm011]

Your sniveling adolescent reply, "I never mentioned the 60's, you did.." Belies your pompous pubescent attitude

How can one expect to have a rational debate with you when you lower yourself to personal attacks? Your actions speak volumes. And the fact that you're at least in your 60's and acting this way? You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[ActionBuddy]

The thread is about events involving Police Misconduct in the USA against Black People in the USA!

Actually, the OP's title for the thread is: "The police misconduct thread." You guys need to calm down.

I was not under the impression that it was limited to cop violence against African Americans... That just happens to be what is so up front in the news right now. Next month their uncontrolled violence might be more focused on undocumented workers, or gays, or Hispanics, or environmental activists... We shall see.

A/B

 

[Calboner]

Actually, the OP's title for the thread is: "The police misconduct thread." You guys need to calm down.

I was not under the impression that it was limited to cop violence against African Americans... That just happens to be what is so up front in the news right now.

Yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, uh-huh.

http://members.tripod.com/tiny_dancer/yipyip3.mp3

 

[Bardox]

Actually, the OP's title for the thread is: "The police misconduct thread." You guys need to calm down.

I was not under the impression that it was limited to cop violence against African Americans... That just happens to be what is so up front in the news right now. Next month their uncontrolled violence might be more focused on undocumented workers, or gays, or Hispanics, or environmental activists... We shall see.

A/B

QFT

 

[littleguyhugedick]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

 

[jtm011]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

Are you talking about the citizen or the police officer?
Don't you expect the police officer to uphold the law, equal to if not better than the average citizen because they are well versed in it and are paid to uphold the law?
Do you not see excessive police brutality in multiple jurisdictions from these posts?
Do you realize that it is most likely that you and everyone reading this thread have contravened a law each and every day without even realizing it?
Are you suggesting that if you were caught not obeying a law, knowingly or unknowingly, that you should be put in a "compromised situation" involving police brutality?

 

[ActionBuddy]

What ever you do, don't drive, ride a bike or go running, as those things clearly are disobeying the law... if you are black. (Some folks on this site really are dumb as boards.)

A/B

 

[Calboner]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

Have you got ANYTHING to offer besides obtuseness and irrelevance?

(1) Many of the victims of police misconduct ARE people who were obeying the law. Check out the report about the Indian crippled by the police in the first post.

(2) Dealing with lawbreakers is the fucking JOB of the police: we HAVE police BECAUSE we don't live in heaven but on earth where people do in fact break the law. The fact that they break the law does NOT give law enforcers carte blanche to treat them any way they please. Treating lawbreakers in a LAWFUL fashion is ALSO part of their job.

If you can't follow an argument, stay out of it.

 

[slurper_la]

Baltimore Police Apparently Beat Journalist During Protest (VIDEO)
Baltimore Police Beat Journalist During Protest (GRAPHIC VIDEO)


WATCH: Baltimore Police Apparently Beat Journalist During Protest
Baltimore Police Beat Journalist During Protest (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

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[slurper_la]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

Hey littleguylittlebrain: how about this guy? He never broke any law...

Wrongfully Imprisoned Man Eats A Bacon Cheeseburger After 36 Years Behind Bars
Wrongfully Imprisoned Man Eats A Bacon Cheeseburger After 36 Years Behind Bars

How's your salad dressing tasting these days?

 

[AlteredEgo]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

I wasn't breaking the law when I was arrested seemingly because the arresting officer wanted to feel me up. I was just going to work.

 

[vince]

Why not just obey the law and you will not put yourself in a compromised situation. Just a suggestion or thought.

That would be a good idea for the police to follow. If they obeyed the law (and followed their training) instead of taking it into their own hands, they wouldn't find themselves into so many compromised situations either.

 

[ActionBuddy]

At age 16, Kalief Browder, while walking home from a party in the Bronx, NY, was arrested and imprisoned. He spent three years on Rikers Island without ever having been convicted. Earlier this year, he was released without an explanation.

HuffPost Live: Kalief Browder: Prison Guards Starved Me.

He went to a party, walked, and didn't have an extra $10,000 on him... while black.