The police misconduct thread

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for profit prisons are not actually a new phenomenon. In the Jim Crow/post-emancipation era several southern states banked off incarcerating newly-freed Black americans, emancipated slaves who were denied work so they broke the law by hunting food on state property to stave off starvation. The state of Georgia for example covered pretty much their entire state spending bill for years from the profits gained from incarcerating newly-freed Black 'citizens' who 'broke the law' to feed themselves and their families..

Thanks for the input LadyJesseQuinn; I definitely know they are not a new phenomenon...it's the anti-recidivism techniques that have all but ceased in most prisons these days as opposed to the techniques that were used more widely years ago. No anti-recidivism techniques meant newly released prisoners were more likely to return to the prison system quickly. Many states have their role in prison labor unfortunately. So a prisoner who learns their lesson is bad for the prison industrial complex. This all viciously circles back to laws made to ensure police can arrest more and more people by any means to justify their cut of that money. Some just take it entirely too far and engage in misconduct which is more often than not left unchecked.

However, despite my few run-in's with boys playing law enforcement officers, I still believe that the majority of officers are decent human beings; it's the organization as a whole that drives many to come to the decision that they are all engaging in misconduct.
 

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Yes. I am sure.

It makes no difference whether you are sure: the question is whether you have any proof. "Are you sure?" was a polite way of suggesting that you provide it. Since the only well-publicized report of what you are asserting has been proven to be a fake, you owe us some evidence to back up your claim.
 
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7 San Francisco Officers Punished For Racist Texts
News from The Associated Press


I'm aware about this particular case. The policemen who were "punished" said that they were just joking with each other and that their conversations were private.

I have noticed though that in the last ten years or so since I was an undergraduate in college, the police have acquired a lot of military-style weapons from the feds which causes so many more problems for all of us. Also it's my understanding that many police officiers these days were in the army and the marines during the last few middle-eastern wars and have a military style of reacting to violence on the streets. In fact I have an uncle who is a sniper for the LAPD. He's actually killed a guy in the line of duty. He had absolutely no remose about what he did. In fact he brags about his ability. Sorry, the police have huge problems in American culture. I try to stay away from police even when they're off duty. I can't trust them.
 

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It makes no difference whether you are sure: the question is whether you have any proof. "Are you sure?" was a polite way of suggesting that you provide it. Since the only well-publicized report of what you are asserting has been proven to be a fake, you owe us some evidence to back up your claim.

You are free to watch the YouTube clips,
Nbc reports, etc at your leisure, bonehead.
I owe you nothing.
Do your own homework, idiot.
Unless you're using a flip phone, I'm pretty sure even you can work the search feature on your ejecting electronic device.
I did it. Very easy.
Best of luck to you & warmest personal regards. :)
 
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You are free to watch the YouTube clips,
Nbc reports, etc at your leisure, bonehead.
I owe you nothing.
Do your own homework, idiot.
Unless you're using a flip phone, I'm pretty sure even you can work the search feature on your ejecting electronic device.
I did it. Very easy.
Best of luck to you & warmest personal regards. :)
Your story was proved fake--even admitted to be such by the station that broadcasted it (and then fired the person who produced it). So you are in the hole as far as credibility is concerned. If there is any difference between your assertions and pure made-up bullshit, it is not apparent.
 

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Your story was proved fake--even admitted to be such by the station that broadcasted it (and then fired the person who produced it). So you are in the hole as far as credibility is concerned. If there is any difference between your assertions and pure made-up bullshit, it is not apparent.

Try again.

You're referring to one report at one location by one person.
That one idiotic incident does not automatically indict all of the other reports.
But, then again, you do like to over-generalize things...don't you?
 

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Try again.

You're referring to one report at one location by one person.
That one idiotic incident does not automatically indict all of the other reports.
But, then again, you do like to over-generalize things...don't you?

If what you say happened really happened, why did somebody have to make a fake story to make it appear to have happened when it did not?

If the reports are so abundant and so easy to find, it should be easy for you to cite them. My Google search led me only to stories about that false report.

Just cite a credible story and you will shut me up, without any need for further abusive remarks or other irrelevancies. If what you say is true, it should be easy for you to prove it.
 

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GRAPHIC VIDEO: SC Cop faces murder charge after fatally shooting man in back

50-year-old Walter Scott, who had a traffic stop violation and a Family Court warrant for his arrest, was shot in the back as he ran from a police officer. The officer, Michael Slager, now faces murder charges.

Slager claimed that he feared for his life, but the video suggests that he wasn't at risk.

Does anyone think that the officer would face murder charges if there wasn't a video of this incident?

"He was reaching for my gun" won't likely work on this one.
 
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"He was reaching for my gun" won't likely work on this one.
No, but I expect that Mr. Hardball will tell us that, since the man was running away from a police officer trying to arrest him, the cop was just giving him what he deserved by shooting him to death.
 

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If what you say happened really happened, why did somebody have to make a fake story to make it appear to have happened when it did not?

If the reports are so abundant and so easy to find, it should be easy for you to cite them. My Google search led me only to stories about that false report.

Just cite a credible story and you will shut me up, without any need for further abusive remarks or other irrelevancies. If what you say is true, it should be easy for you to prove it.
Unlike you, I realize it's impossible to know and speak on the mindset of another. I have no idea why that fool made up the story. No crystal ball here...Sorry.
Your search filter must me as myopic as you.
I'm on my phone & found a few stories from different sources (even at different locations! NYC, etc).
The reports & recordings are there.
I have to prove their existence just slightly less than you have to prove that all cops stick together and have nothing better to do than kill innocent minorities.
Good luck with that.
 

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Unlike you, I realize it's impossible to know and speak on the mindset of another. I have no idea why that fool made up the story. No crystal ball here...Sorry.

Cal's point is that there would be absolutely no motive to make up such a story if it actually happened. No one would have a motive. So one wouldn't be looking at any particular person's mindset, except perhaps in the psychiatric sense.

Your search filter must me as myopic as you.

If you can't understand Cal's simple point, you maybe should not be the one calling him (or anyone) myopic.

I'm on my phone & found a few stories from different sources (even at different locations! NYC, etc).
The reports & recordings are there.
I have to prove their existence just slightly less than you have to prove that all cops stick together and have nothing better to do than kill innocent minorities.

You were simply asked for a source. If you know what you're talking about, you should be able to find one quite easily ... which you say you've done, but which I greatly doubt.
Producing a source is part of being a responsible poster ... not that any exhibition of responsibility interests you greatly.
And why should Cal prove "that all cops stick together and have nothing better to do than kill innocent minorities"?
Has he said anything like that?
Has anyone?
 

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Cal's point is that there would be absolutely no motive to make up such a story if it actually happened. No one would have a motive. So one wouldn't be looking at any particular person's mindset, except perhaps in the psychiatric sense.



If you can't understand Cal's simple point, you maybe should not be the one calling him (or anyone) myopic.



You were simply asked for a source. If you know what you're talking about, you should be able to find one quite easily ... which you say you've done, but which I greatly doubt.
Producing a source is part of being a responsible poster ... not that any exhibition of responsibility interests you greatly.
And why should Cal prove "that all cops stick together and have nothing better to do than kill innocent minorities"?
Has he said anything like that?
Has anyone?

Again....doing this at work on my phone, shit-for-brains.
Do your own homework, buffoon.
 

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Again....doing this at work on my phone, shit-for-brains.
Do your own homework, buffoon.
My my, we do show our stripes, don't we?
I'm not asking you to do any homework -- simply pointing out the justification of Cal's request.

While I don't doubt that buffoonery is a real point of expertise at your house, I don't know that you can intelligently point your finger at anyone else.
Maybe you should work on civility. Or perhaps, so you recognize the word, sivillitee.

(If you have those links, we can wait till tomorrow. You do have a real 'puter, don't you? Or do you? Not every security guard, or bowling alley pinsetter, does.)


 
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Another police shooting and killing of a black guy in S.Carolina. The cop shot the guy in the back. Scary shit to me.
 

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Another police shooting and killing of a black guy in S.Carolina. The cop shot the guy in the back. Scary shit to me.

There's a video of that getting his back full of bullets here. It may as well be titled "What doesn't happen to white guys." Who knows how many times this sort of thing happened before mobile phones became so common. This apparent assassination can't be swept under the rug.
 

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No, but I expect that Mr. Hardball will tell us that, since the man was running away from a police officer trying to arrest him, the cop was just giving him what he deserved by shooting him to death.

While demonizing the perpetrator, as they did with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Apparently, Martin skipped school and Brown walked on a road, so they had to get shot. Calling them "thugs" all the while is their usual M.O.

As we've seen, these ultra conservatives are predictable and very aggressive. Is arguing with these no-evidence-needed, aggressive people worth it? Fuzzy thinks it is simply because the truth must be defended.

The protests sweeping the nation seem completely justified.