The President's Health Plan Won’t Cut the Budget Deficit

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  1. Trinity

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    The Doc Fix and Cadillac Tax are explained along with other reasons why:

    The President's Health Plan Won’t Cut the Budget Deficit

    This short article explains why Obamascare is utter LUNACY!!
     
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    Oh brother...

    When this guy starts working for the CBO, let me know. Until then, I'll stick with the people who actually know what the hell they are talking about.
     
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    :rolleyes:
    The President's Health Plan Won’t Cut the Budget Deficit
     
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    Lol... Yeah, a Bush political appointee will lead us to the light!
     
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    The He/She and Holy It has a ton of unsecured credit card debt; a first and second mortgage; and continues to trade in its car for a new one before the old one is ever paid for.

    Just thought everyone should know. :biggrin1:
     
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    The article is clear and concise on the issues...if you can refute them then give it your best shot. When people can't...they just say Bush...which really doesn't work. :rolleyes:
     
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    It does when you review the fiscal record of the nation under this guy's watch. To have one's opinion respected, one must first display performance worthy of respect.


    Hey, I have an idea! Let's listen to Jimmy Carter's advice on how to handle the Iranians! (get it?)
     
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    You're relying on an OPINION piece from a HEALTH INSURANCE provider??? FUNNY!
     
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    Your reliance on "Bush" is ridiculous unless Obama was wrong to go with Gates and then KEEP Gates. :rolleyes: Get it?

    The article is written by a well qualified expert who is relying on concrete information from Obamascare. If you can refute the article then give it your best shot.

    Oh and you relying on Obama's mess of bills and proposals is even funnier!
     
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    This explains part of your problem. You're unable or unwilling to discern between an employee with good performance, and one with bad performance. Gates has done an excellent job at the Pentagon. Especially in comparison to the disastrous tenure of the clown Rumsfeld before him. On the other hand, this guy helped craft an economic policy that we've all just personally witnessed crash and burn. Sorry, but you're not going to convince anyone that he is the voice of reason in the healthcare debate, no matter how much you wish we would.
     
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    Obama has no experience in running anything. Failure of economic policy? So far, Obama doesn't have a win. This article is written by someone who's been down the road and knows the perils that lay ahead with every decision. If you can't refute the article with anything Obama has...then saying "Bush" means nothing because according to Obama's low job approval, a majority of the American people will counter with "Obama" :mad: Stimulus Waste, Broken promises, Non Transparency, Unrealistic Economic Policy Agenda, Rejected Dem Healthcare Plan. :rolleyes:
     
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    ^Seeing that you're changing the subject, I presume that you now are willing to stipulate that the guy you've propped up here isn't a compelling authority on healthcare. In fact, he's no authority at all.
     
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    NO, your article was written by a HEALTH INSURANCE PROVIDER who has a financial, vested interest in making sure that health care Reform fails. I would take anything they say with a BIG grain of salt because their primary job is to keep their profits up by using my health as a commodity on which to make MONEY.
     
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    This was obviously what the entity known as Trinsanity did all through school....:wank::trink26::sleeping::adam4:because it sure didn't learn anything
     
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    Wait... I could have swore I saw you sing this on stage before. But the words were much different... :rolleyes:
     
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    I didn't change the subject. I brought it back to the subject. The author of the article is both a compelling authority on healthcare and a qualified expert. If you can refute the article with anything from Obama and the Dems, give it your best shot.

    No. It was not written by a Health Insurance Provider. It was written by a consultant who is an expert on domestic policy - in particular Healthcare.

    If you can refute the article, give it your best shot.

    oh, and regardless of the motives of Kaiser...it doesn't change the facts of Obamascare. The Doc Fix, the added taxes...the fact that it won't cut costs and costs too much.

    If we want to reign in profits it won't be with the most rejected mess of bills and proposals that could collapse our economy and damage the quality of our healthcare worse than it all ready is. :rolleyes:
     
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    And if you don't believe that there is a DIRECT connection between the KAISER family foundation and Kaiser Permanente, then you are even more naive than I thought.
     
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    So, one of the architects of the budget time bomb crafted during the Bush years is the best you can come up with?
     
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    I don't want to reign in Profits. I want to eliminate them ENTIRELY. My health is NOT a commodity.
     
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    If only single payer worked *sigh* Don't you live in Mass Indy? Or you did...

    You know hasn't worked. A 25 year old will take the $950 penalty (some pay it, some don't even bother) rather than pay $3500 for healthcare by mandate to keep more of his salary. But then if that 25 year old actually gets sick, because insurers can't deny coverage for preconditions, they have to cover all their bills.

    The young who are supposed to be spreading out the costs of the ill and the elderly are adding to the costs through the regulation.

     
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