The President's Health Plan Won’t Cut the Budget Deficit

[StormfrontFL]

^Well then Trinity can't expect people to understand her points if she won't define her terms. It's improper and confusing to use a pronoun without first identifying the subject by name.

If I was telling you a story about a politician, and I kept saying "he" did this or that, nobody is ever going to know which politician I am talking about, because I never said who "he" is. It could be Obama, it could be Mitch McConnell, it could be anyone, because I never said.


Trinity, who is "we" in your remarks?

Told ya once before buddy that "we" likely refers to the voices in Trinsanity's head. Do yourself a favor and don't attempt to debate or reason with the . It is fruitless and besides it's much more fun to insult the little freak.

 

[Trinity]

Which is why the country kicked the 'leaders' out of power who agreed with you and did nothing to address the problem.

Neither Obama's proposals nor any Democratic Bill will solve or effectively address the problem - Obamascare will most likely make things worse. That's why a majority of people don't support the mess.

Based on Pelosi's comments...forcing Obamascare down the throats of Americans jeapordizes the jobs of Democrats.

Like I said, come back to us when you've got something to discuss that is actually BETTER than what is currently planned.

Better plans have been presented. Obamascare has been rejected by the majority.

SO, you've got your insurance, to hell with the uninsured, they don't matter as much as ME.

You live in Mass and keep repeating the ridiculous. If the plan doesn't work - it doesn't work.

Obama has not presented a plan to cover the uninsured that will work - that's the lesson from MA.

Ah, so we're back to this argument that 'we' can't afford to cover everyone (strange assertion, considering that every single other industrialized nation on the planet CAN afford to cover everyone, but I digress on that point for now)

No, they can't. Every industrialized nation that has universal coverage is facing cost issues and/or quality control or adding to a deficit.

Who has the job of making up these titles? Are they passed out with the morning's talking points? Hilarious!

Notice you don't address the fact that the Democrats used a gimmick to hide the true cost of the bill: The Doc Fix. And there are major taxes added to average Americans.

The issues aren't talking points...they are the reason why a majority of the American people don't support Obama and the Dem's mess of bills.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

No, they can't. Every industrialized nation that has universal coverage is facing cost issues and/or quality control or adding to a deficit.

Yes, they absolutely can afford it. Nothing in life is free, and certainly not life itself. Find me a nation where both sides are in agreement over pretty much anything, and I'll show you a nation that won't be in agreement with itself for long...

The US faces much more severe 'cost' problems than any universal system, most patients in the US face similar waiting lines for care and similar quality control issues, so all of that is irrelevant to the discussion, since all healthcare systems that we could possibly implement are going to face the same resource and cost issues... The main differences between the US 'free market' system and the universal systems used elsewhere are, in the US, systemic policies leaves tens of millions without insurance. Barring unusual exceptions to the norm, theirs doesn't. Our system literally issues 45,000 death sentences every year to people who didn't have the money to get the healthcare they needed to keep living. Theirs doesn't. Our system bankrupts millions of people every year and destroys their credit rating simply because our system is designed to force them to choose between being alive and healthy, or financial ruin. Universal systems generally don't bankrupt people for getting care... Because our healthcare system is generally tied to employment and is exorbitantly expensive for individuals to purchase, small business start ups are seriously hindered. Furthermore, the high cost of healthcare hinders both the ability of small businesses to grow, and to attract highly talented professionals. Other universal systems DO NOT face these problems. The US does, and it is obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that we're falling behind other nations in several compelling ways, and healthcare is a major one.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

And btw, I'm still waiting for you to explain who "we" is in all of your posts...

 

[deleted15807]

And btw, I'm still waiting for you to explain who "we" is in all of your posts...

The Trinity hello???

 

[maxcok]

And btw, I'm still waiting for you to explain who "we" is in all of your posts...

Tallguy, buddy, pal. I'm tellin you, they will never answer that question.

Entire threads have devolved into nothing but posing that question, yet they remain silent.

On this they remain forever mysterious and divinely inscrutable.