The Price of Gas Where You Live

Lordpendragon

Experimental Member
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Posts
3,814
Media
0
Likes
18
Points
258
Sexuality
No Response
I paid over $9 yesterday for a gallon. Given that I pay around 50% tax and gas is taxed at 70% in the UK - my government takes over $15 off me for a gallon of gas.

Then they want to charge me $12,000 a year tax for the car I need for business and get this, beyond congestion charges of $16 a time in London, they want to tax me for every mile I do by tracking my every movement.

Lucky we have a liberal left wing government.
 

dong20

Sexy Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Posts
6,058
Media
0
Likes
28
Points
183
Location
The grey country
Sexuality
No Response
I paid over $9 yesterday for a gallon. Given that I pay around 50% tax and gas is taxed at 70% in the UK - my government takes over $15 off me for a gallon of gas.

Adjusted for US gallons that's about $7.

How does a $9 gallon cost you $15 LPD? You can't add 50% back on top because of your income tax and NIC - you're paying for the fuel with money on which tax has been paid and we all pay that whether we buy fuel or not. The Tax element of petrol is about 78% or $7 even if you added 50% it's still only $10.5 how's that $15?

Then they want to charge me $12,000 a year tax for the car I need for business and get this, beyond congestion charges of $16 a time in London, they want to tax me for every mile I do by tracking my every movement.

Lucky we have a liberal left wing government.

Don't buy your fuel in Sloane Sq, last time I checked it was £1.39 per litre (abt $2.70) or drive a 4x4 where the congestion charge was proposed at $50 per day, never mind the fuel costs!!

BTW I believe the US embassy owes over $500,000 in unpaid charges (on the grounds that it's a tax not a toll?). Please, be nice and hand it over and stop being CHEAP.:rolleyes:

The way you talk anyone would think London was an expensive place. Or worse, get wildguy on your side.:tongue:
 

swampy

Just Browsing
Joined
Apr 24, 2006
Posts
16
Media
0
Likes
0
Points
221
Location
NSW, Australia.
Gender
Male
My vehicle is diesel, down here in Oz it's about AU$1.31/Litre and about AU$1.24 for biodiesel blend.
I think unleaded regular petrol is about AU$1.34/Litre.
I don't live in a city so it may be a little cheaper somewhere like Sydney, & probably a fair bit cheaper in Queensland where the State Government there subsidises some of the taxes on it.
It's the most expensive its ever been & everyone is complaining.
I don't know what the conversion to other currencies & gallons is.
 

selkent

Just Browsing
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Posts
9
Media
0
Likes
0
Points
146
Location
united kingdom
Sexuality
100% Straight, 0% Gay
Gender
Male
petrol, or gas, at my local petrol station is 96.9p per litre, but my car is relatively fuel efficient and my job is local. It'll probably continue to rise in price as well.
 

wanker

1st Like
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Posts
72
Media
28
Likes
1
Points
153
Location
London
Sexuality
90% Gay, 10% Straight
Gender
Male
people don't know how lucky they are in other countries- Unleaded Petrol is almost the equivalent of $2 in the UK- it is taxed at a much higher rate here than in the US- and seeing as more people use it in the US shouldn't they be carged more seeing as we don't have much left it may convince people to walk less challenging distances (and get people some good exercise)
 

shad24

Just Browsing
Joined
Apr 16, 2006
Posts
148
Media
0
Likes
0
Points
161
Location
right here
Sexuality
50% Straight, 50% Gay
Gender
Male
Gas prices averaged $2.89 3 weeks ago here in Indiana.
Today, Because of the 'Indianapolis 500 race' coming. It suddenly rose to over $4.00. Talk about gouging!
By the way, we lost the Superbowl bid for 2011!:eek:
 

Lordpendragon

Experimental Member
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Posts
3,814
Media
0
Likes
18
Points
258
Sexuality
No Response
The Tax element of petrol is about 78% or $7 even if you added 50% it's still only $10.5 how's that $15?

I make £1 - I get to keep 50p. If I spend $9, the government also gets $9 as I have to pay myself $18 to have the $9 left. They then take $7 0f the $9 in extra tax - they have made $9 + $7.

I only pay myself what I need to live off. If I needed $100,000 a year, I have to pay myself $200,000. Ironically some of what I have to pay for is local taxes, VAT at 17.5%, car tax, tax on flights (I had to do fifty last year) etc etc etc. I reckon the government would get about two thirds from someone on an income of between $100,000 and $200,000.
 

B_Kshelby67

1st Like
Joined
May 4, 2007
Posts
408
Media
0
Likes
1
Points
161
A station a minute from my house has the cheapest gas in my county, at $3.10/gal. Everywhere else around me is about 3.20-3.50ish. It fucking sucks because I need my car to work, and my job doesn't reimburse mileage even close to what we are spending to drive clients places.
 

Falcon9

Experimental Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2006
Posts
452
Media
0
Likes
24
Points
163
Sexuality
No Response
next question... how much do you spend a month on gas? Enough here to buy a nice imported suit! "I feel like I am being taken to the cleaners..." is that the saying? I either need to move closer to where I work or have work move closer to me. Figure the yearly depreciation and insurance on the car... this is now getting way too depressing. This is not why I am here visiting LPSG, can we change the subject please??
 

rob_just_rob

Sexy Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2005
Posts
5,857
Media
0
Likes
43
Points
183
Location
Nowhere near you
It hit $3.69 US just south of Grand Rapids today... I'm thinking seriously about getting my motorcyle endorsement and buying a little 600cc road bike.

Is it true that motorcycles get much better gas mileage than automobiles (certainly better than the ridiculous, hulking Ford F-350's the rednecks around here are so fond of driving!) in general?

I believe you are the only person in this thread to actually contemplate *doing* something to alleviate the effects of gas prices on your finances. As opposed to just complaining about it.

Of course, this was set up to be a complaints thread, not a solutions thread. Still, I commend you for at least considering getting a more fuel-efficient vehicle. And yes, for the most part, a motorcycle is going to get much better mileage than all but the most fuel-economical cars: Motorcycle Fuel Economy Guide

The only way we are collectively going to reduce our automotive fuel emissions is if we start driving more fuel-efficient vehicles. People aren't going to start carpooling, or walking to work, or living closer to their job/family/vacation spot. And the only way people are going to give up their ridiculous love for monster vehicles is if gas goes to, say $8/gal or $2.50/L.

As for me, I drive a compact that is relatively fuel efficient. And as I've said before, I have done a lot of investing in the oil industry - although by this point most of the easy money looks to have already been made.
 

SoFla8

Experimental Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2005
Posts
206
Media
8
Likes
11
Points
238
Location
South Florida
Sexuality
69% Straight, 31% Gay
Gender
Male
I found it for $3.11 (HESS station, Commercial Blvd west of 95 :smile:)

I'd say average is $3.28 though.
 

dong20

Sexy Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Posts
6,058
Media
0
Likes
28
Points
183
Location
The grey country
Sexuality
No Response
I make £1 - I get to keep 50p. If I spend $9, the government also gets $9 as I have to pay myself $18 to have the $9 left. They then take $7 0f the $9 in extra tax - they have made $9 + $7.

The logic that your spending 9$ gives the Government 9$ is beyond me - how do you conclude that? Earning $9 sure, but not spending it, that tax has already been paid. Or, equally likely I've lost my last marble.

For example, and ignoring VAT:

If you buy an item for $1 the vendor gets $1, the government gets a % of the vendors profit that he made on that item as tax, perhaps a few pence but that comes from the vendor, not you. Your tax contribution for the $1 you earned to buy it (i.e. $1) has already been paid, as income tax, you're not paying it again!

Your argument would only be valid if you had to pay an extra 100% of face value in tax on everything you purchased in addition to the purchase price, i.e. tax which went straight to the Government. Now, VAT does just that though at a rate of 17.5% so I will agree that while HMRC gets an extra % back in indirect taxation, it's not at 100%.

I only pay myself what I need to live off. If I needed $100,000 a year, I have to pay myself $200,000. Ironically some of what I have to pay for is local taxes, VAT at 17.5%, car tax, tax on flights (I had to do fifty last year) etc etc etc. I reckon the government would get about two thirds from someone on an income of between $100,000 and $200,000.

I don't disagree and I also pay the same taxes, but that doesn't make the cost of petrol $15 any more than it makes the cost of everything else double what I pay for it.

In addition, all I can add for our US members is to echo what others have said; count yourself lucky...it will only get worse.
 

amiegrrl

Experimental Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2007
Posts
248
Media
0
Likes
8
Points
163
Location
Midwest USA
Sexuality
69% Straight, 31% Gay
Gender
Female
And yes, for the most part, a motorcycle is going to get much better mileage than all but the most fuel-economical cars: Motorcycle Fuel Economy Guide

The only way we are collectively going to reduce our automotive fuel emissions is if we start driving more fuel-efficient vehicles.

Thank you for the info :smile: And I agree with you completely... though I think to seperate a redneck from his F-350 (or one of these soccer-moms from her SUV) would be tantamount to murder here in rural/suburban MI. People and their damn cars.... I think many have forgotten that Point A to Point B is the same in a Honda Civic as it is in a H2. :rolleyes:
 

dong20

Sexy Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Posts
6,058
Media
0
Likes
28
Points
183
Location
The grey country
Sexuality
No Response
I believe you are the only person in this thread to actually contemplate *doing* something to alleviate the effects of gas prices on your finances. As opposed to just complaining about it.

I long ago quit whining about petrol prices, now I drive when I need to and use the bus, tube or train or walk when I don't. I've contemplated getting another bike and while the idea is appealing, riding in London is tantamount to suicide and when I go long distance a bike isn't usually practical. Perhaps my next car I'll convert to LPG.

Maybe as a weekend toy but that rather flies in the face of reducing fuel use....:rolleyes:
 

Blocko

Experimental Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2007
Posts
687
Media
0
Likes
13
Points
238
Sexuality
No Response
If my maths is right, tis about $3.90USD per Gallon ($1.24AU per Litre) at it's cheapest around here at the moment, for regular unleaded.

Of course, if you want the good high octance stuff, that's going to cost yah...