The Real Average

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Ok, this post is totally subjective opinion, no scientific surveys here.

I believe no matter what any Kinsey survey or any sexologist maintains, that the real average penis size is not 4.5 to 6 inches long. The real average length is more like 6 - 6.5 inches long.

I believe anything under 6, say 5.75 is actually small.
Anything over 6.5 is large.

I'm basing this on personal observation alone.
Me, I am really about 5.75 - 6 inches -- on a good day. So when I look at photos, like most guys, I'm comparing his stuff to mine.

What I've seen -- in photos, videos and in real life -- most people are bigger than me. If I was really average, like the stats maintain, there should be just as many smaller than me, as bigger that me. And that's just not the case. Many more are bigger than smaller.

Even accounting for the argument -- guys with big dicks like to show them off more than small guys. And the idea that we see many more big guys because they go into porn just doesn't hold. I've seen my share of hard-ons outside of cash-for-sex pix -- and -- most guys are not 4 - 5.5. Most guys are 6".

The guys bigger than me, say over 6", far outweigh those smaller than me, at say, 5.5."

Anyone agree? Or disagree? I want to hear from first hand observations. No "scientific" stats, like average equals 3.5 - 6.5. Those figures are meaningless.

I'm sure there's lot of folks here, men and women who can speak to this from personal experience.
 

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disagree...

reference your sources pls
eye witness accounts are often the worst source of information.(fact)

I have no sources other than my own eyes, my own experience. There's no referencing personal opinion.

I'm interested in hearing other people's opinions based on personal experience only. If you disagree that's cool, agree, that's cool too.

Just back up opinion with experience.
 

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Well, in my personal experience most guys are small...almost half the size of myself soft.

But maybe you've seen more hard dick than me? :tongue:

I'd say the average erection is about 5-5.5" long and 4.75" around. eg:

http://www.mensfaq.com/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/IM000429 copy.jpg

Soft is misleading -- the same guy can go from 1" - 6" all soft, depending on circumstances.

Actually, I'd love it if people disagree, it's more to my advantage if they do.:redface:
 

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I think the real average is closer to 5 than 6, because not only is there embellishment of measurements when it comes to folks doing it themselves, but self-measurements are also rarely done along the top of the shaft (the way that is scientifically accurate) because it will always give the shortest number.
 

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Confirmation bias. I know you said you want no "science," here, but I would think that, if we were to really compare the men from the photos and videos you've seen, you would at least fall in the middle; certainly, the smaller men would not outweigh the larger.

If indeed the latter part is true (larger > smaller), then i would suggest a selective sampling that is not representative of the overall population.

Anecdotally speaking, I *remember* the bigger guys a lot more than the smaller ones. But I can also say that, of the 40 or so partners my ex's have had (collectively), I'm supposedly smaller than only 3 of 'em -- the rest were "a lot" smaller. While I only consider myself average, my personal experiences fall in line with the scientifically accepted "norms."
 

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I think the real average is closer to 5 than 6, because not only is there embellishment of measurements when it comes to folks doing it themselves, but self-measurements are also rarely done along the top of the shaft (the way that is scientifically accurate) because it will always give the shortest number.

You know, I'm not even really talking about numbers now.
It's funny, I think a guy can compare himself and "measure" without a ruler.

Don't you think you can imagine your hand holding some other cock and just tell whether you're the bigger of the two?
 

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I believe anything under 6, say 5.75 is actually small.
Anything over 6.5 is large.

So, by your definition, 'small' has a range of around 5.9 inches, 'average' has a range of 0.5 inches, and 'large' has a range of 4 inches plus?

That would make average almost null, or an extremely steep bell curve. (There's a reason people lean towards Mean rather than Median/Mode)
 

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Totally right, but, don't you think you can usually tell when someone is bigger than you - or smaller???
No; that's what it means to be inaccurate, visually. Body parts vary in shape and size, so without the standard (ruler), you can misjudge. How often do we hear that losing weight will make your penis look bigger?
 

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So, by your definition, 'small' has a range of around 5.9 inches, 'average' has a range of 0.5 inches, and 'large' has a range of 4 inches plus?

That would make average almost null, or an extremely steep bell curve. (There's a reason people lean towards Mean rather than Median/Mode)

Good point well taken.

Average maybe is more like 5.75 --- 6.75.

Or maybe 5.5 -- 7.

I never took any statistics courses.
 

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On the bar graph in the link I posted, 24.3% is the top percentage, showing 5.5" to 5.75" as the average. Followed by 23.9% showing 5.75" to 6". So strictly speaking, it seems that average is below 6".
 

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I know for me a lot of times I see a pic and think the guy looks bigger than me or even an object like a cucumber or sausage but then if I acutally compare it to my dick it's smaller. Plus with pictures the angle and distance from the camera can make something look really different than it would look in person.
 

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Soft is misleading -- the same guy can go from 1" - 6" all soft, depending on circumstances.

Soft 'can be' misleading, but generally speaking it is not.

You speak of 'big' and 'average' comparisons (didn't just say length) while only giving length numbers, and you didn't mention your girth. The volume (length and girth combined) could be giving you this impression. For instance, a 5.75 l x 4.5 g are average lengths and girths by charts but still in the low average (by volume) and could cause one to see themself as smaller since volume plays a substantial visual role. I'm just giving an example. You didn't give enough info.
 

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Soft 'can be' misleading, but generally speaking it is not.

You speak of 'big' and 'average' comparisons (didn't just say length) while only giving length numbers, and you didn't mention your girth. The volume (length and girth combined) could be giving you this impression. For instance, a 5.75 l x 4.5 g are average lengths and girths by charts but still in the low average (by volume) and could cause one to see themself as smaller since volume plays a substantial visual role. I'm just giving an example. You didn't give enough info.

More info: I'm about 5.75" long (6 on a good day) by about 5.5 average around.

I've been called small by a number of folks, men and women.

Like I said before, it seems there are more bigger than me than smaller, by almost 2 to 1. Thats why I've called 5.75 smaller rather than average.

To be called average, there should be about the same number above and below the figure. It seems like more are 6 and above than below.

IMHO. Just looking for anecdotal reports that agree -- or differ.
 

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More info: I'm about 5.75" long (6 on a good day) by about 5.5 average around.

I've been called small by a number of folks, men and women.

Like I said before, it seems there are more bigger than me than smaller, by almost 2 to 1. Thats why I've called 5.75 smaller rather than average.

To be called average, there should be about the same number above and below the figure. It seems like more are 6 and above than below.

IMHO. Just looking for anecdotal reports that agree -- or differ.

I can relate to being average size and yet being said to be small. However, I was on the low side of volume average whereas you are on the high side of volume average (I'm assuming here that you know how to properly measure, many guys don't or won't). Even though you aren't wanting statistics, one that must be considered when talking about partners is the poll which indicated in a 2 to 1 ratio that guys with larger penises tend to have more hookups. Plus, keep in mind that guys who are bigger are probably more prone to flaunt it and that will shew what you see at least some. Also, there is the possibilty that your perception has been skewed by what has been said to you ("small"). In other words, you may have a mental scar distorting your perception just like a scratch on a lens interferes with visual clarity. This site can also have an affect, but all one has to do is visit the site Measurection to see that there is another side to what is presented at LPSG.