The rise of immigrant caravans

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Why is it that I cannot remember a time in my nearly 40 years on this Earth, until this year, that anyone has mentioned anything about massive caravans of immigrants making their away up South and Central America? Now all of a sudden in 2018 not one but TWO of these caravans starts making the news?

This one...suspiciously arriving right around US Mid-Terms.

Now is it a case of me just not hearing about it cause I wasn't paying attention till now or have they literally just become an issue recently? Like all the Spanish speaking peoples south of us all of a sudden decided to road trip to America's doorstep?
 

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Maybe the increasing gang violence created by the bullshit war on drugs pushed by the US has something to do with it?

We create a perfect storm for our own people to cry over, while placing all the blame on the people who happen to look slightly different and have different cultural traditions or whatever... Who also happen to be victimized greatly by the same fucking policies We put in place .

I'm NOT saying we should have open boarders and let Everyone in who happens to show up.. I Am saying that there are understandable reasons we have people fleeing from everything they know and grew up with to come here and potentially live a somewhat safe life.

*Some* immigrants come here for bad reasons. Others are coming to get the fuck away from a war zone that WE are directly contributing to. Whether or not we want to fucking admit it.
 

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Why is it that I cannot remember a time in my nearly 40 years on this Earth, until this year, that anyone has mentioned anything about massive caravans of immigrants making their away up South and Central America? Now all of a sudden in 2018 not one but TWO of these caravans starts making the news?

This one...suspiciously arriving right around US Mid-Terms.

Now is it a case of me just not hearing about it cause I wasn't paying attention till now or have they literally just become an issue recently? Like all the Spanish speaking peoples south of us all of a sudden decided to road trip to America's doorstep?

Here's what happens when migrant caravan arrives at U.S. border

It's in the news because Trump's made it news. Trump's made it news because he feels like stoking fear about the caravan will be beneficial to Republican candidates in the midterms.
 

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I haven't heard of it either. And its not a good tactic if they are trying to get into the country. It's a lot easier to spot a few hundred people trying to cross a border than a few here and there.

Either way, its obvious what is happening here. Supposedly they are still 3,000 miles away, so they aren't arriving in time for elections. But they exist just in time for stump speeches and to get people riled up about immigration. I don't like to use the term fake news, but nobody makes more fake news than the person who came up with the term.

Also, the video I saw of a huge group of people crossing some bridge, supposedly a caravan, really looked like the video had been modified. I've only seen it a few times and haven't really analyzed it too closely, but I'm fairly certain the same groups of people can be scene appearing in the crowd multiple times. I'm sure after the underwhelming inauguration crowd Trump has had his people practicing their video editing skills specifically to change the appearance of crowd sizes.
 
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I am not going to loose any sleep over a few thousand women and children arriving at our border asking for asylum, which is a legal process. They can't vote, get welfare or other social services unless granted legal asylum by the government. Our wars and military conflicts around the world have created millions of displaced people who have had to flee to other countries as refugees. But, America says "no refugees at our door". Hypocrites
 

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A local conservative radio pundit expressed concern about these caravans: "These people are coming from such violent countries! They may be dangerous!"

Sigh . . . these people, many of them mothers with small children, are coming *because* they live in violent countries. They're fleeing for their lives. And somehow that makes them the greatest threat we can possibly face . . .
 

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I am not going to loose any sleep over a few thousand women and children arriving at our border asking for asylum, which is a legal process. They can't vote, get welfare or other social services unless granted legal asylum by the government. Our wars and military conflicts around the world have created millions of displaced people who have had to flee to other countries as refugees. But, America says "no refugees at our door". Hypocrites

“Women and children”?

Hahahaha. It’s mostly men with iPhone 10s.
 
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Ginni Thomas is a fucking nutjob.

You can search through google for all the bullshit conspiracy theory kind of shit she engages in.

I especially love when she called Anita Hill demanding an apology for Hill speaking publicly about Thomas's sexual harassment.
 
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We need these men and women to pick your vegetables, mow your yards, scrub your toilets, etc. Things most Americans won't do unless paid $20 per hour.

Oh yes.

“We need brown people to be your slaves”

Gotta love the constant bigotry of low expectations. “We” don’t need them.
The Democrats need them for votes.
 

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Oh yes.

“We need brown people to be your slaves”

Gotta love the constant bigotry of low expectations. “We” don’t need them.
The Democrats need them for votes.
Again....expert Australian opinion that he thinks are facts.

What happened? Got tired of trolling Women's Issues so you thought you'd come here.

Isn't there a place where you incels gather?
 

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Again....expert Australian opinion that he thinks are facts.

What happened? Got tired of trolling Women's Issues so you thought you'd come here.

Isn't there a place where you incels gather?

Pretty much all the women's issues regulars have him on ignore.

Always glad to remind that this is an option that exists :)
 
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Again....expert Australian opinion that he thinks are facts.

What happened? Got tired of trolling Women's Issues so you thought you'd come here.

Isn't there a place where you incels gather?

Defending racism are we?
 
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Pretty much all the women's issues regulars have him on ignore.

Always glad to remind that this is an option that exists :)

It is always good to remember the IGNORE feature can greatly enhance your LPSG experience. It certainly has mine. Pretty soon you forget they ever existed. Bonus - your hemorrhoids stop aching. Win - win.
 

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Ignore Feature should be his online handle.
What I can't understand is how Democrats don't eviscerate Trump and his lickspittles on the topic of the caravan. Further, I don't understand how 30% to 50% of my fellow Americans are so fucking stupid they can be gaslighted on important topics, and, are afraid of 5000 refugees. 5,000 women and children are "invaders." Jesus fucking christ.
1. There are more illegal aliens from Europe in the US yearly than from the southern border. They are workers and students overstaying their visas. They commit crimes at the same rate as others, yet Fox News isn't screeching vein-necked over this because they're mostly white. And isn't them just being here a crime? Making them criminals?
2. If 5,000 people moved into my little city, I wouldn't notice. They wouldn't have cars, they'd use public transport, they'd over-produce work output at low paying jobs cutting my costs for materials and products, and they'd pay taxes on those jobs.
3. If 5,000 people went to the emergency room in 2019 to each have a $100,000 kidney replacement and that cost was foisted onto me, the tax paying public, that would cost me roughly $2.50 in 2019. That's what tax payers would bear if each refugee "stole" $100,000 a year from the United States' social safety net. I don't hate people enough to begrudge 5,000 new kidneys and great quality of life for $2.50 a year. Perhaps you do, conservatives? (T'was a joke. I know you hate them enough to begrudge 1/2 the cup of coffee to help others)
these other things are positioning arguments and general equivalencies, now for more practical matters:
4. How the fuck do they get across the border? How?
5. Net immigration into the United States is down since Trump has been president. Legal immigration is down. Net illegal immigration was in the negative under Obama. There IS NO IMMIGRATION CRISIS YOU FUCKING MORONS. You're being gaslighted because you're stupid, you're racist, you're stupid, you're scared, you're willfully ignorant, and you're stupid.
6. See #4
7. You want to stop immigration? Resolve all the issues that keep Mexico and Central America in tumult. It's possible. Easily within the United States' ability. We're the richest, most powerful nation in the history of mankind. Solve the drug issue, and invest in those regions. In a few generations there would be peace and stability. Simple. But lemme guess, conservatives... what's yours is yours and brown people suck cuz you're white?
 

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Oh, that thing that Obama’s approved which is now being blamed on trump?

Right

You aren't even from America. You don't know the shit Trump has been doing nor would you care bc it doesn't affect you. Stay in your racist ass lane.