The Rush for Stimulus Money..... a year later

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  1. faceking

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    Citizens opposed this disaster out of the gate.. the first of EVERY major disaster der ObamaZippy has tried to pass.


    Even Krugman knew that shaving 2% of unemployment was folly... within 2 years... well... we've got 11 months to go. Stimulus arithmetic (wonkish but important) - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com


    As of the end of August 2009, 19 percent of the stimulus had been outlaid or gone to American taxpayers or business in the form of tax reductions.[5]

    and now we've got still over HALF the money unspent.... when Obama, Reid, and StretchedFace told us we couldn't wait a week.

    Well, at least we learned that FUCKED up mentality when there was a rush to push NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE.

    $3 billion in temporary welfare payments

    or my fave

    $500 million to update the computer center at the Social Security Administration

    why? because the calculators can't go into negative numbers deep enough... and this smug prick thinks the govt can run a healthcare system, since their retirement system is a quagmire.

    What next Barry.... let me guess... you are going to ship the rest of the stimulus to states that need Democrat votes. I triple dare you. Keep going dumbfuck.
     
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    look at history -- anytime and every time the middle class of a nation is decimated, there's a power coup to take over and radically change the regime and society

    seems perfectly in line with Barack Hussein Obama's probable aim
     
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    Hope.

    Change.

    [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]The estimated population of the United States is 307,847,269
    so each citizen's share of this debt is $40,167.72.

    12.365T

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's Bush's fault.
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    Nah...not a bit of it. Just more right winged whining and advanced "spin" designed to make Obama out to be the cause of a failed initiative, which in a way is partially true. It is his fault: for once again trying to garner support from the entrenched right, support he'll never get, only to be faulted for his failure to do so.

    "Radical change of society?" In the estimates of the article cited by the o.p., hardly radical enough. To quote from Krugman's article:

    "And that gets us to politics. This really does look like a plan that falls well short of what advocates of strong stimulus were hoping for — and it seems as if that was done in order to win Republican votes. Yet even if the plan gets the hoped-for 80 votes in the Senate, which seems doubtful, responsibility for the plan’s perceived failure, if it’s spun that way, will be placed on Democrats."

    In short, Obama is too much of a centrist (as any impartial political analyst will concur) hardly a "radical", in spite of continuous braying to the contrary. He tries to much to cater to the wishes of the right. As some here (and Bill Maher) have observed, fuck the right! They didn't put him in office.
     
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    www.dccc.org | Hypocrisy Hall of Fame

    Let's not even have this argument. Elected Republicans have been trashing the stimulus while praising it's effects in their home districts for months. And if even they agree that it's helped, I'm sure you can too.
     
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    And now it begins... :biggrin1:
    Oh, this is going to be one hell of a year! Many people has been taken notes, and thanks to the internet NOBODY is going to forget.
     
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    Kind of reminds me of how Racheal Maddow made Aaron Schock her bitch on Meet the Press over this subject.
     
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    most of the stimulus spending isn't even true stimulus. It's just wasteful spending which won't even create jobs.

    This will be looked upon in history books as 'what not to do' to get out of a recession.

    Obama is erecting an utterly horrid legacy already; and will be very harmful to the hopes of future candidates that are anything other than a white male.

    Since this is the first candidate [to win] that represents anything other than a white male - and it may end up being the worst presidency in U.S. history (time will tell) it will set back the progress of both minorities and women in pursuit of the POTUS role.

    A shame as there are a number of promising women and minorities moving up the ranks; and their futures will likely be squelched at the hands of the Great Misinformer.

    Disclosure: Do not invent some kind of racial attack here. It is indisputable that the fact that Obama is a minority will factor into future votes depending on his performance - either positive or negative.
     
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    .....:eek:mfg: :eek: :wtf2:








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    So wasteful that it didn't stop several Republicans, who all voted no for its passing, from accepting the money from it, using it on programs that did help their states and saying publicly that it actually did have a positive effect. SilverTrain posted the link earlier, and I'm going to post it again. EVERYONE, including you, should read it. www.dccc.org | Hypocrisy Hall of Fame

    So, it's now OK for you to play race cards even though you don't want anyone to do it against you? This kind of hypocrisy is too easy... I'll let someone else call you out on it. :rolleyes:

    Besides, many of the Republican/Tea Party/Birther responses we've seen thus far are only due to the fact that the President is a minority. They don't want him to do ANYTHING but get out of the White House. People like you already views Obama's presidency as being the worst on record, and that was even before we got through the first year. Don't try to find an excuse for your disdain now.
     
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    Agree.


    I'm suggesting that Obama's missteps and deliberate lies have greater and farther-reaching implications than just ruining the country. He will be setting up walls for minorities to garner votes in the future.

    That is a fucking LIE Vinyl Boy. The outrage is due to his poor performance.

    He sucks.
     
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    Open your muthafuckin' eyes, Star.
    Some people may have issues with the President. Even I have some issues with him. Your "outrage" may have something to do with performance, but if you're going to sit here and act as if a good amount of anger coming from the opposition is not fueled by some kind of racial resentment, then you're extremely ignorant.

    If this next comment infuriates or pisses off someone, then so be it.
    When it gets down to it, many people are just too chicken shit to call Obama a stupid nigger, so they find clever buzzwords and phrases to express their sentiments.

    What's worse is that you think nobody can't pick up on the context!!
    Socialist. Fascist. Nazi. Uppity. Community Organizer.
    Ad-nauseam rhetoric about our "Founding Fathers" and the Constitution.

    I spent enough time being the only dark spot in a crowd of white people, so I know this game more than most. Put away your political blinders and pay attention once in a while.
     
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    Then try to explain why they were so riled up before he had even been in office one month? Hell, some of the protests started before he was even inaugurated. No legislation had been proposed. No policies set. The only thing he did "wrong" was show up black. Why do you refuse to see what is right before your eyes? The fact that you try to deny the evidence of outright racism within the tea party movement lessens whatever credibility you try to have. You do present yourself as a zealot, refusing to see inherent weaknesses in this group. You criticize liberals on this board and complain that we march lockstep with our Party but I have read, and also posted, criticism of the Dems. We make no excuses when they are wrong. Why do you refuse to do so with the tea partiers? And you call yourself an Independent?
     
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    I frankly find your analysis appalling and ridiculous. I fail to see how Obama's minority status reflects on the prospects of future female or minority candidates. If anything, the story of the past election was that thankfully a majority of Americans were able to look beyond superficial differences and choose the candidate they thought best suited for the job. It's absurd to think that his race, regardless of performance, will be a determining factor in future voting decisions as you 'indisputably' propose.

    To play the race card at the same time you deny it is doublespeak, and so very typical of you and your cohorts. Your comments smack of blatant tokenism and not so subtle racism. I think VB and Storm are going way too easy on you here. You should be grateful for that.
     
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    You obviously have me confused with another poster. I regularly dismiss Beck, and regularly say that Palin is a buffoon/airhead/embarrassment.

    And I don't call myself an indepenent. I socially liberal, and fiscally conservative, and register republican for the sole reason that there are no legitimate 3rd party options at this point in time.

    The republican party is pathetic, but the democratic party is so outrageously harmful to everything that the country was built on that I cannot register or align with that circus in any way; other than to support some of their social agenda.

    Fiscally, it is a weapon of mass destruction.
     
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    You still haven't explained why you still stick up for the tea partiers and deny the racism so prevalent in their ranks.
     
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    You obviously have the current administration confused with the previous administration.

    On two counts.
     
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    Haha! LOL good comeback:wink:
     
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    Does someone socially liberal reduce something like Welfare and/or UI as just a bunch of lazy people looking for a "handout"? Do they suggest that we put them under drug testing?

    Remember any of these comments you made?
    Those aren't the words or the thoughts of a typical person who is socially liberal. Be honest. Your driven more by your fiscal side to really care about anyone's social or civil rights.

    Until Republicans stop accepting stimulus money, then any claims of the stimulus being "harmful" is just rhetorical bullshit.
     
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