The %'s just dont make sense sometimes...

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liquidskin: Whenever I ask a girl if shes been with a "big one", I seem to always get a response with something like "9 1/2 inches". Now that does nothing for me, because Im only 8 1/2 and according to surveys Im in the very high percent tile. It just doesnt make sense that if a girl has had 2 partners, shes been with a 9+... Anyone get what Im saying?
 
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7x6andchg: I do understand what you're saying - if you hear all the time that anything above, say, 7", is in the top 10% of all men - then where are they meeting these hung men...

The problem could have at least two sources I can think of:

1. Statistics, for all their wonderful power, are just numbers. If, say, a woman has had 10 partners, she has a 1 in 10 chance of having had sex with a man who is >7" long given the distribution that is generally accepted. Make it a woman with 2 partners, and those odds do jump - but not to "Powerball" type odds.

Figure that out of 100 men, something around 10 of them will be >7" long, and somewhere around 2 of them will be >9" long, for arguments sake. There's always that chance. She could have had one of the 2 out of 100.

2. Did she ASK him how big he was? Or did she measure him herself? There is always the chance he, ahem, lied to her. He might certainly have been larger (say 7"+) and in the heat of the moment, she didn't check for authenticity..it just felt big enough to her that she went with the flow.

Just my thoughts on the situation....

7x6&C
 
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hawl: [quote author=liquidskin link=board=meetgreet;num=1058022182;start=0#0 date=07/12/03 at 07:54:02]Whenever I ask a girl if shes been with a "big one", I seem to always get a response with something like "9 1/2 inches".   Now that does nothing for me, because Im only 8 1/2 and according to surveys Im in the very high percent tile.  It just doesnt make sense that if a girl has had 2 partners, shes been with a 9+... Anyone get what Im saying?[/quote]I recall seeing 9.5 as an estimate of John Holmes's actual size. Doesn't his ex-wife in the documentary "Wadd" say that when he was deciding his career he came out of the bathroom one day and announced his amazement that he was 10 inches(and she says she uninterestedly retorted that she'd alert the media)? I remember that old size queen Gary Griffin in one of his "Penis Size and Enlargement" books has a funny but sincere line about his exhaustive research sadly concluding that 10 inches is pretty much the final stratosphere and bigger ones are found only on some of the large mammals (man not included). What are the odds of seeing a porn star as large as John Holmes, let alone a typical female sleeping with a guy that large? I've seen one estimate of him being under 9, I was relieved the first time I actually saw him in a movie (I thought "If that's 'the King' then I'm definitely part of the peerage"), but he was so far from most people's realm of experience that he could claim to be 14 inches.
 

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This is true..unless you have actually measured
it their can be great misconceptions about size.

My ex had a nice cock..and i thought by looking
at it that it was about 8 and a half inches long...

one day we actually measured and...
it was 7.

i wasnt disappointed (it was the same cock)...
and we figured it looked bigger than that because
he was small in stature, and it just...well, looked
big on him. LOL.

You just never know until you get out that
old measuring tape.
 

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We've discussed before how a woman's estimate of her lover's member more often than not is 'optimistic.'

liquidskin, I'm willing to bet that if you ask a female again if she's been with a 'big one' and she responds with something like '9 1/2 inches,' if you don't tell her how long yours is, she will over-estimate your size, too.

Or you can do like most of the rest of us and just don't ask a question like that! :p
 
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H8Monga: I am glad someone else has seen this. All I hear are all the 7"er out there particularly black guys. Many black women I've talked to say they've not seen a black guy under 7" which is baffling to me and makes me wonder if this 5" average shit is all... well... shit...

But as for the really large guys, women do say they are extremely rare and haven't seen or been with one.
 

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My ex-roomy in college was rumoured to be over 8". This was believed even by the women who had seen it. Why? Because he said so and they took him at his word. Actual size? 6.5" at the most. Judging by the number of penes I've seen in the erect state, I'm inclined to believe that slightly under 6" is pretty accurate as the average.
 
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prepky: well Dr Whopper is that statement about average being under 6" take into consideration, what hapi said about the black women never having a black man under 7"...so if that is the case then it is true that Black men are bigger.....
 

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Well, 7x6, penis size has a very steep bell curve. More like 2 in a thousand. But if she's seen one of those two, that'll be her idea of large.

And there is no way to fix those odds.
 

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This thread got me thinking...
you know...we always hear the average size stats
for cocks...
and we always hear that "of course you see huge
dicks in porn that is why they were hired".

But, in this internet age,
i cannot count the hundreds upon hundreds
of guys i've seen on cam and in pics...
just regular guys...TONS...and they
all look bigger than 5.5 inches to me.
(Yeah, ok, i have too much time on my hands. LOL)

Again, this may fall into the same category as porn:
Guys who are above average may feel
more comfortable posting pics, or camming.
Not sure.
Just noticing the other day, in my internet
browsing...(of amateurs, not pornstars) that
there are lots of above average guys out there.
 
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7x6andchg: My mistake - I meant to add an extra 0...still not exactly powerball-type 120 million to 1 odds...

Txqis - I think it might have something to do with who out there is willing to post pics as you suggest.
 
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H8Monga: txqis you are right... that is one reason why I felt bad... why are all these normal guys with webcams in their homes so much larger than "average"? These aren't porn people. My friends on AOL even, some of their pictures have made it to me (don't ever send anyone nudes if you're on AOL and a regular in a chat, they get around to everyone) and come on, not one of them is this "average" 5.5". jonb, your stats I'm sorry are way off...

I doubt I could pass myself off as 8" however, I've stated before someone judged my pics at 7" which I don't know if they were trying to be nice (since they are true friends) or if that is just the estimate... if so then a lie can be my best friend or maybe that is what black women do? Breakthough?
 
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Rusty2kma: My understanding about blacks have bigger ones is this.They are the same size soft as they are hard.(This came from a black guy friend).If this is true,thus the misunderstanding of black being larger because woman generally see in white guys that the penis gets larger when it gets hard compared to soft.Anyone heard anything like this?Or know anything about this?



I've also noticed that some guys that are of average size seem to be fatter around thus causing woman to think its bigger by looking but when measuring is actully smaller....an opitical allusion if you will.
 
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Ineligible: I agree that (1) people lie; (2) people like me rarely show off on webcam; and (3) it's difficult to estimate accurately; but I think the last reason can be extended. I think there is a natural tendency to over-estimate the size of others compared with our own. I don't know what biological purpose this might fulfil, but I assert the thesis.
 
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AnonyMs: [quote author=DoubleMeatWhopper link=board=meetgreet;num=1058022182;start=0#6 date=07/12/03 at 13:49:19]My ex-roomy in college was rumoured to be over 8". This was believed even by the women who had seen it. Why? Because he said so and they took him at his word. Actual size? 6.5" at the most. Judging by the number of penes I've seen in the erect state, I'm inclined to believe that slightly under 6" is pretty accurate as the average. [/quote]There is an old joke about why women can not accurately judge distances or lengths. "It is because all their lives, they have been told THIS (hold hands 4 inches apart) is six inches."

I agree with the ones who say, unless you get out the measuring tape, you are not gonna know.......
 
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GsBanana: my experience from web cam is that people often think I am bigger than 8inches, but as a "fair" measurer I'm not bigger, just 8inches. and I get a lot of comments about being one of the biggest people have seen. I haven't seen but a handful of guys on webcams that are bigger than 8inches myself. An average guy (5-6) seems bigger at first but its still 5-6inches, the old "the camera adds 10 pounds" comment that you hear about from actors and entertainment news I guess.

I have had around 30 sexual partners and I have been the largest, or one of the largest with almost all of them. I have had one partner say they had a partner with around a inch or more than me.

Porn Stars I have seen are rarely more than 10 inches (Mandinko{spelling} and some other are huge).
My point is the medical community is not on crack, the average is somewhere around 5-6 inches (I dont know exact stats). Maybe everbody just measures from deep in the BALLS to get these higher measurements
 
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gigantikok: yea, that's a good point GSbanana. No matter how many manuels of "how to measure properly" exist online, it will never be accurate. People will always add inches, people will always embellish, rulers will always be pushed further than they should be. That's why alot of online surveys prolly aren't entirely accurate.

Or maybe guys are just getting larger? I mean, ever since the internet and all the enlargement information, i bet alot more men are increasing their sizes. The information is very easily accessable now. Who really knows?
 
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mm5166: About the picture thing, the answer is pretty easely. Perspective. Take a 5'7" tall guy with 8 inch dick. What does it look like on a picture ??? Ohh ! That guy has a monster dick ! And since we usually associate the height of the people in the picture to ours, it seems bigger. I have a friend wich is 5'8 tall and boast something like 8 inch. Is dick almost get to his knees. Mine goes up to half my tight (I'm 6'0 foot tall), but we are the same size ! Me in picture and him in a picture, he'd look bigger. Now I think the question is not the average size of people's dick, but the average height.
 
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hawl: [quote author=mm5166 link=board=meetgreet;num=1058022182;start=0#17 date=07/18/03 at 21:14:38]About the picture thing, the answer is pretty easely. Perspective. Take a 5'7" tall guy with 8 inch dick. What does it look like on a picture ??? Ohh ! That guy has a monster dick ! And since we usually associate the height of the people in the picture to ours, it seems bigger. I have a friend wich is 5'8 tall and boast something like 8 inch. Is dick almost get to his knees. Mine goes up to half my tight (I'm 6'0 foot tall), but we are the same size ! Me in picture and him in a picture, he'd look bigger. Now I think the question is not the average size of people's dick, but the average height.[/quote] Thanks for, through this post, reminding me of a topic (or angle?) I'd been meaning to get to. As a 5'8" (straight) male it was memorable for me to read somewhere that 5'8" is the typical height of a gay porn star. I've read elsewhere on the Web an account of being at a porn awards ceremony that described the writer's amazement at the parade of short men like Peter North and Jeff Stryker ( more currently, I've read Brandon Iron describing himself as a short guy with a chip on his shoulder ). The writer said they had been chosen by the biz for the disproportion between their penises and bodies. To put things in more perspective, remember the eternal complaint of actresses that "The camera adds 10 pounds", and recall that (hey I don't know, I just read it in some magazine, don't sue me, maybe we have some similar DNA!) action movie leading man Tom Cruise is supposed to be 5'7". I do have a big dick, though, and 5'2" produces some hot women besides my mother ( anyone like Salma Hayak, Liz Phair, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Reese Witherspoon, Charmed, etc.? ) so I don't know the Darwinian fine print about height and the penis. Probably a lot of short hot women are packing some serious big dick genes (acquired by generations of hotties weeding out the weenies?) that they give to their sons (or is that just Professor rrrrrr's demented Walk Through The Past?) Some short women are pretty stacked (Hi mom!), penis size is supposedly even less related to the rest of the body than breast size, and I'm about the same height/weight as the supposedly real-life huge Porfirio Rubirosa, Frank Sinatra, Willem Dafoe, and "Dick" Cavett.
 
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H8Monga: Not everyone is standing up... when one is sitting, it can be impossible to determine how tall that person is...