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I just thought that I would put this out there for a reaction. I remember when I first joined this site that almost every member was for free speech. I would assume that right now a poll on free speech would reveal that almost everybody believes that freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom of the press are necessary. What about the freedom of speech of conservatives?
Here in Canada we have the human rights commission. They are defenders of minorities and lovers of equality. They stand for all that is good in our country. They have the power to order fines if you are discriminating and the power to demand that you hire a certain individual if you fired them (guess what; alcoholism in Canada is a disability- you can not fire an employee for being drunk at work so long as they seek help.)
Anyhow, the benevolent HRC has decided to drag a conservative board into their kangaroo court. You see, up here we have a law that deals with “hate speech.” Now before you go applauding and dancing in the isles (after all, you should not incite hatred towards others) just remember how many people have said on this board that fundies should die (a threat to be sure) or even spoken out against religion. Being as the moderators did not remove the offending statements it is assumed in Canada that that is the official position of this board. Now there is a case against Rob (and likely the moderators) for hatred in Canada. Ah, land of acceptance.
Yes it is a conservative board and many views there are nearly the polar opposite of commonly held views here. Every now and then I read a thread or two there and they are the conservative LPSG. If you want to post that God is a farce and prayes should be outlawed you are free to do so, but you would deal with the backlash. Yes they have members who hate homosexuals and yes they have a large percentage of the Christian right and yes, I disagree with many of the nutjobs who post there and no I have never posted there and no, I am not registered. Oh, and yes, you may find hatred there if you look just as many of them would perceive hatred here.
Pulled from that board;
Criminal Code section 319(1) makes it an offence to incite hatred by communicating a statement in a public place; Criminal Code section 319(2) outlaws willfully promoting hatred "other than in private conversation"; and the purpose of Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) section 13 was recently articulated by Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) member Dr. Paul Groarke to be "to remove dangerous elements of speech from the public discourse."1 Since only publicly communicated hate content is illegal in Canada, courts and the CHRT must evaluate new and evolving communications technologies and applications used to convey hate content for whether the resulting communication is public enough to be offside the Criminal Code or the CHRA.
Blog postings have been subject to prosecution as hate speech in several jurisdictions, including France and Singapore. Further, blog hosts may be liable if they refuse to remove offending postings, since libel law indicates that blog hosts are publishers, not just intermediaries.
While the hatred of fundies is not a target of the HRC (yet) it may be in the future when the kangaroo courts realize that people who hate another for the religion that they hold do not fit in with their Utopian, harmonious vision of our country.
Done ranting now. If you want to read one of the best posts I have read about freedom of speech on the net read Free Dominion :: View topic - Human Rights attack on Free Dominion
and scroll down to a post by adonick and yes, that is the link to the thread related to the charges against the website.
Here in Canada we have the human rights commission. They are defenders of minorities and lovers of equality. They stand for all that is good in our country. They have the power to order fines if you are discriminating and the power to demand that you hire a certain individual if you fired them (guess what; alcoholism in Canada is a disability- you can not fire an employee for being drunk at work so long as they seek help.)
Anyhow, the benevolent HRC has decided to drag a conservative board into their kangaroo court. You see, up here we have a law that deals with “hate speech.” Now before you go applauding and dancing in the isles (after all, you should not incite hatred towards others) just remember how many people have said on this board that fundies should die (a threat to be sure) or even spoken out against religion. Being as the moderators did not remove the offending statements it is assumed in Canada that that is the official position of this board. Now there is a case against Rob (and likely the moderators) for hatred in Canada. Ah, land of acceptance.
Yes it is a conservative board and many views there are nearly the polar opposite of commonly held views here. Every now and then I read a thread or two there and they are the conservative LPSG. If you want to post that God is a farce and prayes should be outlawed you are free to do so, but you would deal with the backlash. Yes they have members who hate homosexuals and yes they have a large percentage of the Christian right and yes, I disagree with many of the nutjobs who post there and no I have never posted there and no, I am not registered. Oh, and yes, you may find hatred there if you look just as many of them would perceive hatred here.
Pulled from that board;
Criminal Code section 319(1) makes it an offence to incite hatred by communicating a statement in a public place; Criminal Code section 319(2) outlaws willfully promoting hatred "other than in private conversation"; and the purpose of Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) section 13 was recently articulated by Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) member Dr. Paul Groarke to be "to remove dangerous elements of speech from the public discourse."1 Since only publicly communicated hate content is illegal in Canada, courts and the CHRT must evaluate new and evolving communications technologies and applications used to convey hate content for whether the resulting communication is public enough to be offside the Criminal Code or the CHRA.
Blog postings have been subject to prosecution as hate speech in several jurisdictions, including France and Singapore. Further, blog hosts may be liable if they refuse to remove offending postings, since libel law indicates that blog hosts are publishers, not just intermediaries.
While the hatred of fundies is not a target of the HRC (yet) it may be in the future when the kangaroo courts realize that people who hate another for the religion that they hold do not fit in with their Utopian, harmonious vision of our country.
Done ranting now. If you want to read one of the best posts I have read about freedom of speech on the net read Free Dominion :: View topic - Human Rights attack on Free Dominion
and scroll down to a post by adonick and yes, that is the link to the thread related to the charges against the website.