The Six Billion Dollar Project

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    I'm not sure if it's aired yet, but a few weeks ago I saw a commercial for a Science Channel special by that name. Apparently, scientists have been working towards recreating, in a confined space and on a much smaller scale, the conditions they believe to have been in place at the time of the big bang. The idea is to see if they can simulate their own big bang, and the show is going to be about their initial attempts and the eventualities thereof.
    Anybody heard anything more about this show or the subject?
     
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    Well, if we see on the news a great big smoking hole where Switzerland used to be, we can assume someone at CERN miscalculated.

    Re-creating the big bang
     
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    Or that the confinement container was weaker than the manufacturer told them. Unbreakable, my ass, can't even handle a simulated birth of a universe.
    If this special draws in even an iota of popularity, it'll be less than a year's time before we see a made-for-TV movie on Sci-Fi, based on the idea that our universe was the result of such an experiment in a larger and more advanced world.
     
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    And of course in said made-for-TV special the big bang will, naturally, turn out to be another (and previously uncredited) American invention, surreptitiously patented (back dated 16 Billion years of course) and used for devious and covert purposes at area 51.:tongue:

    Seriously, it's incredible science, almost literally.
     
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    I watched that last night at 3am..lol But what I want to know is, they said that energy equations allow for matter to be created. Is that where it all started, or where did all the hydrogen, carbon, and helium come from? What was before the big bang and what triggered it?
     
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    Yeh, it's bordering on scary, the capabilities they've developed. Apparently, they've learned to create amino acids, more or less by bombarding synthetic primordial ooze with copious amounts of electrical energy. I'm not sure if they've achieved it yet, but the goal is to be able to create DNA (I wasn't aware of it before reading this, but DNA is apparently an amino acid.)
     
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    DNA is (at it's base pairs) amino acids (or nucleic acids). Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine. This has been possible for quite awhile.
     
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    Matter and energy are synonymous, it's assumed the energy was always there. Quite a convenient assumption, to be sure.

    It's hard to visualise the beginning or end of the universe, but apparently at the end one can enjoy a civilised meal while watching it happen.
     
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    At some point soon after The Big Bang, things calmed down enough for hydrogen to form. It is the simplest of the elements and it comprises more than 75% of the matter of the universe, mostly locked up in stars.

    All the rest of the heavier elements were formed through fusion reactions in stars. So except for the hydrogen in us, we are literally made of star stuff.

    The OP is referring to the new Large Hadron Collider that is about to go online. But don't worry about universes forming under Switzerland. The amount of matter they are accelerating is very small. The goal is to accelerate particles up to 99.999999% of the speed of light.

    At worst it will create a micro black hole which will fall out of the machinery towards the center of the earth eating up the earth as it oscillates around.

    If that happens, not to worry. It would take it years to eat up the entire earth.
     
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    Wouldn't it be funny if the big bang was constantly being re-created every 13 billion years or so by civilizations attempting to recreate the big band?
     
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    Creating the individual ones yes, but what about creating the proper balance and combination to result in DNA or determining the nature thereof?
     
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    Oh, well that's different.:wink: I don't think that's possible yet. That would be like something out of 2032 or something.
     
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    Thus proving primates to be distant cousins to felines. Curiosity killed the cat.
     
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    Genius, jason. I love it.
     
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    I thought it was for a toilet bowl on Uranus.
     
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    its all a conspiracy
     
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