The Straight Men Who Masturbate Together

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You do realize I didn't submit this to Scientific American. right? And in MY experience, it's very common. Take it for what it is.
The minor problem is that I and plenty of other men who identify as straight dont see this as common behavior amongst other men only sexually interested in women. The major problem comes from women interested in men whom, completely within their right to do so, arent keen on desiring a man they've known to engage in homoerotic behaviors.
Is it really people's fun being messed up, or men wanting to enjoy something without being subject to the consequences of it?
Now for the record I do think societally woman should have a much more open attitude about it, which in turn would motivate more men to be forthcoming about it, but that doesnt mean I dont think there is a marked difference in sexuality between men whom exclusively seek out women for sexual company and intimacy, and men who opt to share that sexual company and intimacy with other men in certain circumstances.
 

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It does commonly happen indeed, in fact i began to realize i was gay when a straight friend had invited me for a JO session but I found that I was more interested in him than the porn that we were watching -- he realized it and never invited me again, as me looking at him too much made him really uncomfortable. Around the same time (this was all before I was out) I jerked off with another straight friend, but it was under the covers so I couldn't look. Now, even as an older adult, I have straight friends who admit to liking jacking off with other men, but they won't invite me cause I'm gay and that's awkward, so it's obviously just for the straight boys.

I don't find it strange. I certainly wouldn't at all be uncomfortable with masturbating with a woman. Hell, maybe I should find a female jack off partner.
 
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The minor problem is that I and plenty of other men who identify as straight dont see this as common behavior amongst other men only sexually interested in women. The major problem comes from women interested in men whom, completely within their right to do so, arent keen on desiring a man they've known to engage in homoerotic behaviors.
Is it really people's fun being messed up, or men wanting to enjoy something without being subject to the consequences of it?
Now for the record I do think societally woman should have a much more open attitude about it, which in turn would motivate more men to be forthcoming about it, but that doesnt mean I dont think there is a marked difference in sexuality between men whom exclusively seek out women for sexual company and intimacy, and men who opt to share that sexual company and intimacy with other men in certain circumstances.

Women don't need to know of the homoerotic experiences of men. I'm pretty sure a lot, if not most, of the men who've done it never divulged the info to their female partners because of shame or whatever other reason.
 

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Women don't need to know of the homoerotic experiences of men. I'm pretty sure a lot, if not most, of the men who've done it never divulged the info to their female partners because of shame or whatever other reason.
I've masturbated with a female partner. Fuckin' hawt
 

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Women don't need to know of the homoerotic experiences of men. I'm pretty sure a lot, if not most, of the men who've done it never divulged the info to their female partners because of shame or whatever other reason.
Which perpetuates the cyclical nature of this issue, because frankly women want to know so that they can make informed decisions as to whom they would like to be with. In light of not knowing what ends up happening is our friendships and male platonic intimacies end up getting homoeroticized, to which straight men with no homosexual urges(and an onus to not be appear homoerotic to the women they want) end up avoiding them, for which men overall suffer.
Honesty and being upfront about homoerotic experiences allows the onus to be put upon women to progress in their attitudes and desires, concealment allows them to rest upon the haunches of having been deceived or lied to by omission. Why wouldn't men want women to be accepting of the whole of their sexual history?
 
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Which perpetuates the cyclical nature of this issue, because frankly women want to know so that they can make informed decisions as to whom they would like to be with. In light of not knowing what ends up happening is our friendships and male platonic intimacies end up getting homoeroticized, to which straight men with no homosexual urges(and an onus to not be appear homoerotic to the women they want) end up avoiding them, for which men overall suffer.
Honesty and being upfront about homoerotic experiences allows the onus to be put upon women to progress in their attitudes and desires, concealment allows them to rest upon the haunches of having been deceived or lied to by omission. Why wouldn't men want women to be accepting of the whole of their sexual history?

What are you telling them? They're not gay - they just jerked off with a friend. Women don't tell men their entire sexual history and they don't need to, especially if it's inconsequential. Y'all are really overthinking this.
 

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...Honesty and being upfront about homoerotic experiences allows the onus to be put upon women to progress in their attitudes and desires, concealment allows them to rest upon the haunches of having been deceived or lied to by omission. Why wouldn't men want women to be accepting of the whole of their sexual history?

I strongly suspect this not as narrow as being about homoeroticism. It is a broad generalisation, I know, and of course there will be exceptions, but it is generally believed that sex and romance are linked much more strongly for the typical woman as for the typical man.

So fear of getting with a bisexual man, or even one who has had homoerotic experiences, maybe fear of the man leaving her and taking up with someone else. Or to put it another way the man would not be completely committing to the woman.

So part of acceptance here is to acknowledge that men can enjoy getting off just for the pleasure of getting off - there doesn't have to be any romance going on. So getting together with other men to j/o has much more in common with solo masturbation than it does with having an affair.
 

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What are you telling them? They're not gay - they just jerked off with a friend. Women don't tell men their entire sexual history and they don't need to, especially if it's inconsequential. Y'all are really overthinking this.
You're missing the point, we're not talking about a need to tell, we're talking about a widely expressed need or desire to know, to be selective in one's sexual preferences. And most straight women interested in presumably straight men would like to know if their partner has engaged in homoerotic behavior before them, and the ones that dont care will more likely than not make that opinion known. Its not about assigning a label, its not about bringing shame, its about being able to make an informed decision. If my wife had been a sex worker before I came along, I have no right to insult her character, nor assign some harmful moniker or label to her behaviors or intentions...but I do have the right to opt out and not be a part of it...and I think anybody would appreciate a heads up before they make a decision.
 

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So fear of getting with a bisexual man, or even one who has had homoerotic experiences, maybe fear of the man leaving her and taking up with someone else. Or to put it another way the man would not be completely committing to the woman.
But this is something that should exist no matter what the man's sexual history is. By this very same logic, women should prefer virgin and sexually inexperienced men for fear of the man taking up with someone else; and yet generally women prefer some degree of sexual experience in their male partners(even if they irrationally lament it later). But the preference expressed is that of experience with women.
My point being, is this is common knowledge, and so it would behoove any man looking to establish a relationship with a woman interested in men that isnt forthcoming with her interest or admiration for men that have engaged in sexual activity(and they will be forthcoming because societally there really isnt a consequence for having it, much like men's general okayness with bisexual women) to provide that context upfront, no different from marital status, certain health conditions, or even all of the mundane things we are generally upfront about because we accept that anyone that would consider it a dealbreaker isn't worth our time anyways. Should a woman not date me because Im a Detroit Lion's fan? Absolutely not, but if thats her holdup better to know sooner rather tham later.
 

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As a member of a local Masturbation club I am Bi but several members are straight. In fact the past few meetups the straight guys outnumbered the Bi and Gay men. Could some of the proclaimed 'Straight guys' be in the closet, sure. But I think it is becoming more common.