The Strauss-Kahn case

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Crackoff, you've gotten several things wrong.

1. I do NOT "hope" he did it, its evident from the DNA taken that there was a sexual encounter, based partly upon the evidence, which includes her bruised genitalia,and based partly upon my being a woman and knowing that its highly unlikely that a consensual encounter with a strange man whom she just met would occur within minutes of them meeting, I THINK he's guilty.

2. Who ever said there was DNA on HIS clothes? I never said it was.

3. MOST people who are arrested DO NOT get the charges dropped, they typically cut a deal. Yes, there are some mistakes made, no police department is perfect.

As for evil village gossip bit... fuck off.

Use the fucking search function on your computer to get the FACTS, quit making shit up and if you don't like what I have to say, that's fine, but there's no need for personal attacks. Get your facts straight and THEN fucking try to contribute something to the thread.

I don't need and won't put up with some ill informed internet idiot being a nasty fuck to me.
 

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Get your facts straight - since when does a short 60 year old flabby pen pusher overpower a 6 ft young black woman who hangs around with gangsters? Since when is a hooker's bruised vagina an indicator of rape, especially since the case seems to be about ORAL sex?

As for arrest/conviction ratios - just look at terror offences.

BBC NEWS | UK | Terror arrest conviction rate 13%

How many uncharged at Guantanomo?

Even felony arrests, if they even get as far as court only have a 50-65% conviction rate.

As soon as a woman accuses a man of rape _THE MAN IS ARRESTED & interviewed under caution. That is standard procedure in the UK & USA.

You're the internet twat judging DSK. "There was clear violence" - "HE bruised her".

That hasn't been determined at all now has it? No evidence that it was him, or wasn't there before.

Why did this woman need one of the highest paid lawyers in NY working for her within hours, when the DA DOES THE PROSECUTION?

Here's an article you'll hate
Feminists exposed by rush to judgment | The Australian

If you trawl back through this thread, you'll see that I was more open minded before.

There's no chance in hell that this will result in a conviction, & only a fool would try to prosecute it, short of DSK shouting out "I did it". Lying about rape, lying about torture, lying about being a pious Muslim, allowing her bank accounts to be used to launder money, lying about the number of children that she had, being the fiancee of a drug dealer & suspected trafficker, & chatting to him about a big pay-off, let alone her behaviour after the incident...

...the words "reasonable doubt" resonate like a thousand clanging bells. It comes down to the words of an habitual liar against the potential President of France - lucky for him that she's like that too, because NY seemed keen to keep him in the can.
 

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The fact that she had some level of bruising to her genitals supports the allegations that she turns tricks rather than or at least equally that DSK was solely responsible in a five minute encounter that was supposedly more about a quick hand or blow job.

Semen being found in a man's hotel room is like asking if the Pope is a Catholic.

I am still wondering what the Hotel's procedures are. I can not believe that they have maids wandering around with a random schedule of work.

I also have to wonder whether she accessed his mobile phone when she returned to his room.

Anyway, I can't see that there is now any case that would pass go in any court.
 
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It reeks more of a banal shakedown by an opportunistic low-life.

This is just classic. The married gentlemen as it were held in high regard somehow manages to get himself entwined with an 'opportunistic low life' yet somehow his dick made it out of his pants and inside her is a complete mystery and not apart of the narrative . And apparently no clearly he had his little moment of 'Shangri-La' but it was all just an 'elaborate shakedown'.
 
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This is just classic. The married gentlemen as it were held in high regard somehow manages to get himself entwined with an 'opportunistic low life' yet somehow his dick made it out of his pants and inside her is a complete mystery and not apart of the narrative . And apparently no clearly he had his little moment of 'Shangri-La' but it was all just an 'elaborate shakedown'.

This affair must be be tearing you apart:

In the red corner, the UltraLeft's narrative of victimization of the underclass, with the added double bonus of immigrant status and loose affiliation with an "oppressed" religion.

In the blue corner, the putative standard bearer of your darling Socialist Party (although DSK's brand of Socialism must still be too conservative for your kind).

P.S.: If you bothered to read my posts in this thread I never once stated he was innocent.
 

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Later on I'm going to sift through this thread created by Luka back when the case first broke and see how much has changed.

http://www.lpsg.org/246791-imf-head-arrested-on-sexual.html

The story has certainly changed.

I think the general procedure that the police and the D.A.s office followed has been standard and proper. A person alleges a crime, they finger a suspect, the suspect is found, brought in for questioning and there seems to be enough evidence to hold them. Due to his financial status and being a citizen of another country he's considered a flight risk and held and then given a high bail amount. The D.A.s office to their credit has continued checking things all along and investigating the alleged victim. Yes, she is an alleged victim until whatever time it's proven that DSK did do something, just as he an alleged perpetrator until whatever time he is convicted.
 

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Gentlemen, the facts are this:

He was registered and occupying a suite in the Sofitel, where the maid went into clean the room, not knowing that he had requested a late check out.

Somehow in a span of around 5 minutes...


As a woman, I KNOW its not possible for me to have a consensual sexual encounter with a man I just met inside of 5 minutes. I hghly doubt any woman who is not a prostitute could do so, therefore I think he DID rape....


Interesting that you wrote a fiction story here just days after registering called Hotel fantasy where the main character (you) is almost a clone of the maid. http://www.lpsg.org/248553-hotel-fantasy.html

then again your very first post where you introduced yourself made clear you were in need of better writing skills


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I once hooked up with a guy from Portland and he was 6 inches around, (not really long, but I didn't care) I loved getting fucked by him. He was on viagra and fucked me six times that night. I was kinda sore the next couple of days but I loved it and would like to be that kind of sore again.

It was also and incredible turn on in my boring business meetings knowing that I had fucked a stranger with a huge cock and THAT was why I sat there with a sore (in a nice way) and gently throbbing pussy.

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It didn't smell anything like a real woman.
 

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I think the general procedure that the police and the D.A.s office followed has been standard and proper.

She phoned her incarcerated boyfriend the next day. They could have checked out all her details the same day, found the bank account, discovered her other activities etc etc. It took six weeks. Sorry, not good enough in my opinion.
 
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She phoned her incarcerated boyfriend the next day. They could have checked out all her details the same day, found the bank account, discovered her other activities etc etc. It took six weeks. Sorry, not good enough in my opinion.

Vance knew he was taking a risk by going the express (quick indictment) route, but, you see, the glittering political trophy was worth the risk.
 

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This is just classic. The married gentlemen as it were held in high regard somehow manages to get himself entwined with an 'opportunistic low life' yet somehow his dick made it out of his pants and inside her is a complete mystery and not apart of the narrative . And apparently no clearly he had his little moment of 'Shangri-La' but it was all just an 'elaborate shakedown'.

It is completely within the realm of possibility that whatever sexual encounter they had was 100% consensual.
 
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There is clear evidence of a violent encounter, the charges have not been dropped. We can only wait and see what the actual outcome will be, but even IF she is a "piece of shit" that does NOT mean this man or any man should be let off and not tried for RAPE.

Point well taken, but doesn't it bother you that the Ophelias of the world end up casting doubt on more legitimate rape cases?
 

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I can write any damn thing I want, and in any style I want. I get paid to write.

As for the fantasy story, it has nothing to do with rape. There's no maids and its ALL fantasy.

You can doubt me all you want, I've got nothing to prove to you or anyone else on here... I'm all woman. Your attack is unwarranted and rude.
 
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.....If you bothered to read my posts in this thread I never once stated he was innocent.

Are we playing both sides of the fence? She's a 'shameless low life' AND he's guilty of rape but you sling all your mud at her?


I guess the shameless opportunists are coming out of the woodwork now:

Lawyer: French novelist to file complaint accusing Strauss-Kahn of attempted rape


It is completely within the realm of possibility that whatever sexual encounter they had was 100% consensual.

Possible? Of course. However you don't get bruises from 100% consensual unless you like to be slapped around now and then.
 
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Point well taken, but doesn't it bother you that the Ophelias of the world end up casting doubt on more legitimate rape cases?


It does. In a perfect world, no woman would get raped, and no man would be falsely accused of rape. There is, however, in this case, more than a mere he said/she said case... there's forensic evidence to support her version of events.

I'm not saying this woman is anything near perfect, but that doesn't mean that she wasn't raped, that she was part of some scheme to "topple" him politically or any of the other wilder scenarios people have come up with.

What also troubles me is the almost wholesale discounting of his past behaviors.

It could be analogous to the fable about the boy who cried wolf... he might have cried "wolf" a few times before the wolf actually showed up, but that doesn't mean that this time there was no wolf and this time the flock did, indeed, get attacked by the wolf.

Here, everyone seems to shrug off the wolf's behavior... why is that?
 

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Here, everyone seems to shrug off the wolf's behavior... why is that?

I don't. I could believe from what I have heard alleged, that this man is capable of non consensual sexual activity, but within the fine lines of that definition.

Semen in a man's hotel room proves nothing.

They chose to believe her stories rather than him. That was a mistake given what has now come to light. He has been through this humiliation given a couple of hours of investigation and trust in her allegations; it has taken them six weeks to establish the credibility of his account. It should not have.
 
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What I find most fascinating is that American-born Anne Sinclair, a very accomplished woman and a celebrity in her own right in France, is clearly standing by her man.

There is something to be said about marriages that can (at least for now) withstand crises of this magnitude.
 

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****Since when is a hooker's bruised vagina an indicator of rape, *****

Didn't the high profile date rape cases of Kobe Bryant and Duke University collapse because the accusers were carrying around fresh semen from various sources. Which would mean that any observed bruises could have come from any number of encounters.

You can get brusies and labial abrasions from consensual sex as well. Two people participating don't always get it right (ie lubricated enough, the right angle, etc). But it doesn't mean that it wasn't consensual.