The term "Power Bottom"

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I've heard it tossed around a few places and it always seems to have a negative connotation.

It seems to suggest a person who knows what they want in bed and tend to come off as sexually aggressive.

I just want to know what is so bad about knowing what you want in bed? Perhaps why people are choosing to use this term in such a negative way, similar to Slut/whore.

Any thoughts?
 

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I don't get a negative connotation when it is used (as I've heard it over the years). If it is used in a negative sense here I haven't noticed it too much. I generally think of a power bottom as a bottom guy who loves to be on the receiving end but who can take control and please the top. I guess it can be anyone who is of that persuasion ... tall, short, skinny, heavy, etc. ... in my fantasies I think of him as a beefy, muscular football player built type guy like I've seen many times vids/photos.
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong with you knowing what you want in bed and if you have a preference for something then why should it be a problem if it's not a problem for the one you're with? I know what I want in bed and have no problem going about making it happen...I don't think that makes me a slut (oh if you only knew how rediculous that concept is)! I think it makes a person a good lover as long as you are open-minded to try other ways unless it really goes against your principles....i.e. for me, that would be anal, threesomes, under-age and anything generally regarded as unacceptable.
 

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My Manhunt profile states in the headline that I'm looking specifically for Powerbottoms, so it has absolutely no negative connotation to me.

If there is anything negative about the label, it the sexist assumption that the catcher is inherently less masculine than the pitcher. This is a spurious argument that suggests an overload of self-loathing and inward-turned homophobia. Best to ignore such catty judgments and focus on doing (in bed) what you do best.
 

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I don't get a negative connotation when it is used (as I've heard it over the years). If it is used in a negative sense here I haven't noticed it too much. I generally think of a power bottom as a bottom guy who loves to be on the receiving end but who can take control and please the top. I guess it can be anyone who is of that persuasion ... tall, short, skinny, heavy, etc. ... in my fantasies I think of him as a beefy, muscular football player built type guy like I've seen many times vids/photos.
That's my take of it. I also think it just means someone who doesn't just lay there and get fucked, but someone who's quite active in the whole deal.:wink::biggrin: I certainly don't think it's a negative term.
 

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You're such a Power Bottom :rolleyes:

I must travel in the wrong circles. When I told my gay friends how much I enjoyed anal sex, I was told I was a natural power bottom.:tongue: I assumed this was because of my ability to both milk a cock with my anal muscles and the fact that I always have intense analgasms.

I thought power bottom was a compliment. :smile:
 

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Never heard of the term myself but applying logic, any noun with "power" as the adjective, would mean repetitivly agressive. My guess is it means an agressive guy who likes it up the ass. As opposed to a power top female who likes to ride the unicorn.
 

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Being called a power bottom is never a compliment and calling oneself that is degrading.

It's a phrase that the gay community coined some time ago to make the bottoms feel good about themselves. Tops need bottoms and if they didn't have them they wouldn't be able to have anal sex, so the tops praise the bottoms, tell them they are good, and the bottoms will tell others how good they are.

The bottoms are just being patronized and are given this label by other gay men who feel superior and dominant. After all, a top has nothing to lose. He's at less risk for HIV and STD's, and his bottom will never suffer any rectal damage.

It's a power play and it's also a powerful way to use a word. The top has the power not the bottom.

I have a gay friend and he and his longtime partner don't do anal at all. He was telling me that they have never been part of the whole top/bottom, male/female, dominant/submissive roles and all that encompass it. They are part of a new breed (actually it's not that new) of gay men that don't want to play those roles, but just want to be masculine equals.
 

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This is a reconstruction from memory of my original reply, which has
apparently gone to limbo.

I agree with everyone who said that the term doesn't necessarily have a
negative connotation.

...If there is anything negative about the label, it the sexist assumption that the catcher is inherently less masculine than the pitcher. This is a spurious argument that suggests an overload of self-loathing and inward-turned homophobia...

I agree. Whenever I hear people talking about tops and bottoms, I
notice this hint of disdain for bottoms. People to think of bottoms as
inferior for taking the "passive" (i.e., feminine) role. If talking
about a couple and not just a casual encounter, there's often the
assumption (sometimes true, often not) that the top is dominant in the
relationship, that he's in control, the "boss," as if the bottom were
"owned" by the top the way a woman was once considered to be the
property of her husband. Bottoms, I think, are a little bit looked down
upon because they appear to be choosing the inferior role that women had no choice about. Given these attitudes, it's amazing to me how many men are able to be proud, happy, self-confident bottoms.

I'm a top by default, but there's a bottom in my dying to get out. I
think a lot of tops are uptight and in desperate need of a good fucking.
Their attitude about being penetrated is much like that of a straight
guy: uh-uh, no way, ain't nothing going up there, nothing's going in
the out hole (etc., etc.). The use of terms such as "shit hole" and
"poop chute" suggest a level of disgust at the idea of being anally
penetrated. I can almost understand this among straight people, but
among gay men it seems hypocritical. Why is it OK to fuck some other
guy's "poop chute" but no thing will ever go in or near yours?

I also think a lot of tops are afraid of losing control. They've
probably seen pornos where the bottom lets go of all shame or modesty
and moan, "oh god, fuck me" and begs for it harder or faster. Their
pleasure seems almost blissful, ecstatic, trascendent. That implies a
degree of nakedness that goes beyond merely taking one's clothes off to
being truly exposed, and emotionally vulnerable. For many of us, that's
terrifying.

Thus I have tremendous admiration and respect for power bottoms.

This is a bit off-topic, but I'm reminded of a Feri exercise called the
Iron Pentacle, which goes like this:

From sex to pride,
from pride to self,
from self to power,

from power to passion
from passion to sex.


It seems that power bottoms have learned much of what the Iron Pentacle is designed to teach.

You can go here for more information on the Iron Pentacle.
Iron Pentacle
 

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Back in the 80's a Power bottom was generally butch. The one who took control of the sex,such as what a "top"would do.You know ,slap the big guy in the head and say fuck me bitch , NOW. Then get a towel and clean me up! Or, ok times up, either get off or get out of me. Sort of a bottom who likes to act like a butch top.
 

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Brain fart---we didn't call them power bottoms but,"dominent bottoms". Guess I should read posts before posting!
 

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Being called a power bottom is never a compliment and calling oneself that is degrading. WTF!?!?! Where do you come up with this stuff? :eek:

It's a phrase that the gay community coined some time ago to make the bottoms feel good about themselves. Tops need bottoms and if they didn't have them they wouldn't be able to have anal sex, so the tops praise the bottoms, tell them they are good, and the bottoms will tell others how good they are.

The bottoms are just being patronized and are given this label by other gay men who feel superior and dominant. After all, a top has nothing to lose. He's at less risk for HIV and STD's, and his bottom will never suffer any rectal damage.

It's a power play and it's also a powerful way to use a word. The top has the power not the bottom. BULLSHIT! Any top who thinks he holds all the power is a lousy lay and probably an arrogant ass to boot.

I have a gay friend and he and his longtime partner don't do anal at all. That's not uncommon, nor is it new. He was telling me that they have never been part of the whole top/bottom, male/female, dominant/submissive roles and all that encompass it. They are part of a new breed (actually it's not that new) of gay men that don't want to play those roles, but just want to be masculine equals.

Why are you here? You keep posting extremely negative anti-gay crap and it's most annoying.


Does anyone else smell a troll?
 

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Being called a power bottom is never a compliment and calling oneself that is degrading.

It's a phrase that the gay community coined some time ago to make the bottoms feel good about themselves. Tops need bottoms and if they didn't have them they wouldn't be able to have anal sex, so the tops praise the bottoms, tell them they are good, and the bottoms will tell others how good they are.

The bottoms are just being patronized and are given this label by other gay men who feel superior and dominant. After all, a top has nothing to lose. He's at less risk for HIV and STD's, and his bottom will never suffer any rectal damage.

It's a power play and it's also a powerful way to use a word. The top has the power not the bottom.

I have a gay friend and he and his longtime partner don't do anal at all. He was telling me that they have never been part of the whole top/bottom, male/female, dominant/submissive roles and all that encompass it. They are part of a new breed (actually it's not that new) of gay men that don't want to play those roles, but just want to be masculine equals.


That's really just your opinion. Not all gay sex is predicated on dominant roles, passive/agressive.

A power bottom, to me, indicates someone recieving anal sex who is just as active in creating pleasuer for both top and botom, as opposed to being a passive bottom, who just lays there and gets fucked. A power bottom may ride the top, or fuck back against him, or, as others have indicatedotherwise generally indicate the tone and direction of the sex. A power bottom isn't hung up on the role connotations of top or bottom and knows his body well enough to extract the maximum amount of pleasure from the expierence
 

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...If there is anything negative about the label, it the sexist assumption that the catcher is inherently less masculine than the pitcher. This is a spurious argument that suggests an overload of self-loathing and inward-turned homophobia. Best to ignore such catty judgments and focus on doing (in bed) what you do best.

Bbucko, you take the words right out of my mouth. As a bottom I know I can totally please my top and I get pleasure too. I think that we need to get over ourselves when attaching worth to gender stereotyping.
 

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I must agree with the last two posters. A power bottom is someone in control of the scene as a receptive partner. There is nothing passive about their actions and feel the confidence and have the ability to take charge in the same way that an active insertive partner might.

People who equate receptive and insertive participation as a metaphor for male and female roles are woefully mis informed and lagging behind the times, in a way that unfortunately reinforces their own stereotypes. Expressing these views as the benchmark standard of sexual comparisons is demeaning, out-dated and lacking insight.

Jeanette Winterson, wrote, "A gay man is as far removed from a woman as a rhinoceros" e.g

"Lesbian........woman............man.............Gay man"

A gay man does not ape a Woman, in the same way that a Lesbian does not ape a man's behaviour...

Italian978, you could be best friends with Elton John and David Furnish, their lifestyle is nothing more or nothing less than what they have decided for themselves to be "their relationship" your friends similarly are fulfilling what they see as theirs and I, with my partner will do as I see is right, and if that means riding the life out of him, it is no better or worse a lifelstyle choice than anyone else can make. If you are so against the postings about gay sex and lifestyle, why interrupt them with you diatribe? What you think is completely unnecassary.