The Thread for Discussion about Models & Celebrities Sexuality

[MisterB]

Hi Everyone: If you want to talk about sexuality or other related issues relating to celebrities, performers, and models, then this is the thread to do just that. Or just talk about the general topic of sexuality. How it relates to those in the spotlight.

Please be respectful with your posts about the celebrity/performer and those you discuss. And please let's work hard to be respectful toward each other. Agree to disagree if you need, but please don't denigrate into name calling or other negativity. If you can't make your point without resorting to such, what then is your point.

And of course we'll need to be mindful that LPSG has Rules about making allegations about someone you do not know to be true; have the receipts for. That's a false allegation. And we don't allow such.

Our goal is to remove this type of content from the specific performer threads. And hopefully eliminate the Reports we receive from performer threads when they go off topic with this type of content and often devolve into arguing and bickering.

If you have any questions about how we envision this thread to work, you can tag me into the thread or send me a DM. We appreciate your cooperation as we continue to work to make LPSG a positive and inclusive community for all who wish to be here.

Thanks!
@MisterB
Moderator

 

[Wino 'n Roses]

I would be interested to know about users experiences. I know for a fact, that as an actor (community theatre, nothing fame wise) that I have not been offered a role because of my sexuality. I have also been propositioned by a director who was directing a play I auditioned for.

Has anyone else had instances where their sexuality helped or hurt them get a role, perform a concert, or affected their professional or artistic lives?

 

[Zi19]

Hi! I thought this thread seems like a good idea, it's such a shame I haven't seen much use of it yet. Anyways, the threads for Kit Connor keep getting deleted due to various reasons, the latest I think was because he posted some very hot pictures and from my understanding some people don't like that he's showing off his body. Personally I think that's purity culture speaking, I agree with those saying that he knew the types of responses he's going to get when he agreed to be in that video. What do you guys think, should we avoid commenting about his appearances on the Large Penis Support Group?

(also lmk if I'm misunderstanding the latest issue from his thread lol)

 

[paintact]

Hmmm, interesting. I always thought discussing/gossiping about public figures sexuality was always kind of LPSG 101 (as long as it didn't cross any inappropriate lines).

I have noticed that all of this is now considered this sort of taboo, esp with Gen Z. People wondering if you're not straight, in a business that still considers such a career liability, is like celeb gossip 101 basics. When, and why, did it become such a crime?

 

[Zi19]

Hmmm, interesting. I always thought discussing/gossiping about public figures sexuality was always kind of LPSG 101 (as long as it didn't cross any inappropriate lines).

I have noticed that all of this is now considered this sort of taboo, esp with Gen Z. People wondering if you're not straight, in a business that still considers such a career liability, is like celeb gossip 101 basics. When, and why, did it become such a crime?

Personally just discussing and gossiping all that is just boring, like it doesn't matter to me at all if a celeb is straight or not so long as they're not a bigot. I just think that it starts to become a problem when you have such a strong opinion on it that you're bothering the celeb about it. I'm still angry with how Kit Connor came out.

 

[bigboaster]

Hmmm, interesting. I always thought discussing/gossiping about public figures sexuality was always kind of LPSG 101 (as long as it didn't cross any inappropriate lines).

I have noticed that all of this is now considered this sort of taboo, esp with Gen Z. People wondering if you're not straight, in a business that still considers such a career liability, is like celeb gossip 101 basics. When, and why, did it become such a crime?

I think the biggest known contributor to this "backlash" from Lpsg is the Kit Connor situation. Prior to that. The usual (and imho annoying) discussions and gossip was a bit more tolerated.

But you can see why because of stuff like that, the mods rather be safe than sorry I guess.

 

[MisterB]

Hi! I thought this thread seems like a good idea, it's such a shame I haven't seen much use of it yet. Anyways, the threads for Kit Connor keep getting deleted due to various reasons, the latest I think was because he posted some very hot pictures and from my understanding some people don't like that he's showing off his body. Personally I think that's purity culture speaking, I agree with those saying that he knew the types of responses he's going to get when he agreed to be in that video. What do you guys think, should we avoid commenting about his appearances on the Large Penis Support Group?

(also lmk if I'm misunderstanding the latest issue from his thread lol)

Hmmm, interesting. I always thought discussing/gossiping about public figures sexuality was always kind of LPSG 101 (as long as it didn't cross any inappropriate lines).

I have noticed that all of this is now considered this sort of taboo, esp with Gen Z. People wondering if you're not straight, in a business that still considers such a career liability, is like celeb gossip 101 basics. When, and why, did it become such a crime?

Personally just discussing and gossiping all that is just boring, like it doesn't matter to me at all if a celeb is straight or not so long as they're not a bigot. I just think that it starts to become a problem when you have such a strong opinion on it that you're bothering the celeb about it. I'm still angry with how Kit Connor came out.

I think the biggest known contributor to this "backlash" from Lpsg is the Kit Connor situation. Prior to that. The usual (and imho annoying) discussions and gossip was a bit more tolerated.

But you can see why because of stuff like that, the mods rather be safe than sorry I guess.

Here's what I said about why this thread exists in the OP above:

Our goal is to remove this type of content from the specific performer threads. And hopefully eliminate the Reports we receive from performer threads when they go off topic with this type of content and often devolve into arguing and bickering.

I've bolded the salient portion.

Numerous Reports being filed in many performer threads that are arguing and bickering about a performer's sexuality and whatnot. And those Reports are usually from those Members NOT involved in the arguing and bickering, but rather just want to visit a performer's thread and enjoy the content and discussion. Basically a few Members ruining threads for the majority of those who participate in those threads.

The Kit Connor thread is a good example. And sadly, a few Members did not heed their warnings and reminders nor the Mod and Admin notices left in threads about Kit. That's why Kit Connor threads get nuked by Admin; each thread devolved into personal slugfests and name calling. Sadly, history repeating itself.

 

[qavak0]

I'll take exception to that. The past threads got messy, sure, but there was very little namecalling in the last Kit Connor thread - and I should know, since I did call someone a name and got Warned for it loll! But it was an isolated incident. Most of the thread was a lovefest over his viral sensation gym pix this past week.

What happened instead was a lot of complimentary posts talking about how hot he was were suddenly deleted. As soon as some folks who do not like sexy talk about the cast of Kit Connor's TV show got to the board and got wind of his gym pix going viral all over social media, several thirsty posts that weren't against the rules (not mine, but other people's) began getting randomly reported and removed and then the entire thread went down in a matter of hours. Nothing went apeshit in there during that time.

And we were told, in the last post by Support, that it wasn't about namecalling. We were told it was about posts that could jeopardize LPSG. But there was nothing doing that that I saw, certainly nothing that warranted a permanent lock. There were no posts discussing the characters of the TV show he's on (I did mention the title of the show and was told even that was unacceptable, so I am not doing that now), just how hot Kit Connor was or how hot his hairy muscletits were in his gym pix. And just talking about those tits got posts removed. (Will they again because I mention them here?)

The only conclusion I can come to, after repeat experiences with this and with certain folks in multiple threads for several performers, is that there are overzealous fans who are posters on this forum who cannot tell the difference between a TV show and reality, cannot accept the forum treating Kit Connor as someone other than his role on TV and discussing him as a sexy adult male, and are willing to spam reports to the Admin to shut down those threads if they can't stop adult-oriented discussion about him and some other actors. And that's unfair to the bulk of the thread which AFAIC played by the rules.

But MisterB knows how I feel about this and I appreciated him listening, so I'm just adding my two cents. I don't blame him, but I think it's ridiculous that we have to tolerate schoolmarm posters trying to control the board via report spam to 'protect' celebrities who are adult men.

 

[BUNBEA]

My stance is this it should not really matter re commenting on a individual sexuality of not, as long as it respectful and not malicious of vindictive. This is called discussion. Having this speculation curtail is uncomfortable for me to be honest. To many actors /media individuals over the years and more so recently will not admit to being gay as it is seen as being a negative, so they will stay in the closet of state that they are Bisexual instead, as identifying as being gay men and women in this increasingly hostile conservative era, is considered /seen as a negative.

I must say that it very sad and to be frank disappointing for me an older gay man to see, what I call 'policing' of open transparent discussion. Just my opinion and lots will disagree I am sure.

 

[Shadowball]

Want to respectfully note here that there is no such thing as an "allegation" about sexual orientation. An allegation is an accusation of wrongdoing and there is nothing wrong about being gay or bi, so you can't alledge that someone is gay or bi.

 

[BUNBEA]

Want to respectfully note here that there is no such thing as an "allegation" about sexual orientation. An allegation is an accusation of wrongdoing and there is nothing wrong about being gay or bi, so you can't alledge that someone is gay or bi.

Thank you for sayings this as I agree as I fell that if one states and identifies as being gay in Gay Porn (go figure) or real life that it is seen as negative and IT IS NOT!

am proud to be Gay Man and hold my head up high and say so!

 

[Hephaestion47]

The Kit Connor thread is a good example. And sadly, a few Members did not heed their warnings and reminders nor the Mod and Admin notices left in threads about Kit. That's why Kit Connor threads get nuked by Admin; each thread devolved into personal slugfests and name calling. Sadly, history repeating itself.

I think it would have made more sense to ban the Bad Actors from posting in Kit's thread (or maybe from the entire site) than to lock up the entire thread on Kit. If posters are breaking the rules, why punish everyone by shutting a thread down?

I think it's ridiculous that we have to tolerate schoolmarm posters trying to control the board via report spam to 'protect' celebrities who are adult men.

IMO, this is the real issue. People don't like that a thread exists, so they come in and cause enough trouble to get it shut down.

 

[qavak0]

Also, no one was actually doing what we were told was the reason for the thread being locked. (Not fighting, of which there was very little.)

In the thread itself, Support claimed it was locked for content that could jeopardize the site; there was no content of that nature posted that day or in any recent days prior. I'm sure people made baseless reports to that effect though. A few posters who were overprotective of the actor and did not distinguish between him and his fictional TV role didn't like people happily and universally enjoying the actor's gym thirst traps and expressing his own body confidence and sexuality. So without any reasonable way to derail that discussion, they abused the report system to get it stopped. This is a now common occurrence in this forum. And it closed a very popular and at that time very healthy and harmonious thread.

 

[MisterB]

I think it would have made more sense to ban the Bad Actors from posting in Kit's thread (or maybe from the entire site) than to lock up the entire thread on Kit. If posters are breaking the rules, why punish everyone by shutting a thread down?

I can't argue with this; makes sense to me. We've done this in some threads. However...

In the thread itself, Support claimed it was locked for content that could jeopardize the site;

And this is the important part. I'm not privy to all that goes on behind the scenes here at LPSG as a Moderator. Nor quite frankly do I wish to be.

What I do know is that when LPSG Support states that a thread has been locked/deleted/removed because it could jeopardize the site, that's because Support has consulted with LPSG's legal advisors and they have advised how best to handle the situation. To protect the site. To protect it's Members. And to protect the viability of the site.

 

[Hephaestion47]

The issue, as I see it, is that when some people don't like a thread, they come in and cause enough issues to get it shut down. This has repeatedly happened and they keep getting exactly what they want because they don't think a person should have a thread here.

 

[qavak0]

What I do know is that when LPSG Support states that a thread has been locked/deleted/removed because it could jeopardize the site, that's because Support has consulted with LPSG's legal advisors and they have advised how best to handle the situation. To protect the site. To protect it's Members. And to protect the viability of the site.

I'm not faulting your viewpoint. All I can say is I was in that thread that whole time in question, and there was nothing in the vein of anything that could put the site in jeopardy or that got even cautioned before the lock (other than my very, very brief clash with a poster for a single post). There's just posters that don't like anyone sexualizing Kit Connor as an adult male because of who he plays on Netflix, and that know how to abuse the report function. And it's a shitty state of affairs.

 

[MisterB]

I'm not faulting your viewpoint. All I can say is I was in that thread that whole time in question, and there was nothing in the vein of anything that could put the site in jeopardy or that got even cautioned before the lock (other than my very, very brief clash with a poster for a single post). There's just posters that don't like anyone sexualizing Kit Connor as an adult male because of who he plays on Netflix, and that know how to abuse the report function. And it's a shitty state of affairs.

Content is not removed because someone doesn't like it. Content is removed because not doing so could jeopardize the site.

And that is done after consultation with LPSG's legal advisors, based on the law and legal precedent.

 

[qavak0]

Content is not removed because someone doesn't like it. Content is removed because not doing so could jeopardize the site.

I'm aware that someone could report the thread claiming there was some, yes. I'm also aware that there was absolutely none of it in that thread that day. But this is all academic at this point so there's no point in going around and around about it. We're not going to agree, but these celebrity threads are not all held to the same standards. "Too many reports" is also not the same as "valid reports". The system gets gamed by posters to produce a result.

And that's all I'm going to say about it, because the point is, per the OP of this thread, some posters just can't deal with some celebrities being sexualized on the forum.

 

[MisterB]

I'm aware that someone could report the thread claiming there was some, yes. I'm also aware that there was absolutely none of it in that thread that day.

I bolded that day. Issues with that thread had been percolating behind the scenes for a while and once our legal team rendered its advice and guidance, LPSG Support took the action they did. Nothing more.

but these celebrity threads are not all held to the same standards. "Too many reports" is also not the same as "valid reports". The system gets gamed by posters to produce a result.

Not all celebrities who have threads about them here have a PR team who scour social media looking for problematic content about them. However, as in this case, there are those performers who do.

"Too many Reports", when cited as why content has been removed = valid Reports. We don't remove content simply because Members "don't like it". Many Reports result in rejections.

some posters just can't deal with some celebrities being sexualized on the forum.

And some Members can't deal with the fact that LPSG complies with DMCA/copyright infringement and other laws pertinent to adult social media. And that LPSG's viability trumps any need for any Member to see or discuss content about certain performers.

 

[qavak0]

Not all celebrities who have threads about them here have a PR team who scour social media looking for problematic content about them. However, as in this case, there are those performers who do.

If that's what you're implying about the Kit Connor thread then his management trying to clamp down on a thread on LPSG is one thing. But as for the other point, there wasn't any questionable content in that thread at any recent time. IIRC it was pretty quiet for weeks before exploding out into about 6 new pages on the day of the thirst traps the actor himself posted on social media which went viral on every pop culture site the side of Mars, none of which got takedown notices.

In any event, as I said, this is academic at this point and not worth going around about it. But if Kit Connor is going to go on the do not post list then that's the end of that. If not, who knows.