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I have good news for all Americans.
The dark shadow which travelled across the USA today was not the spectre of Donald Trump as the Angel of Death but a total eclipse of the sun.
Instead he was at home, well the White House, which is one of his homes, watching the event.
Photographers and onlookers were horrified when it seemed Trump looked directly at the sun - afraid it would blur his vison of a United America - but no.it was just a passing eye flick!

More importantly the 1100 security men and women protecting the President and his family are quickly reaching the limits of their allowed earnings.
It would seem the budget is fast being spent for not only are there the usual presidential places to safeguard but the presidents wife and child during their educational stay in NY, the many trips the president has made - he is away at one or other of the resorts he owns most weekends where previous presidents remained within Washington. One of the bigger factors is the extra transporting of this manpower up and down the country all of whom have to have accommodation and when on the gold course have to have golf buggies - and guess who owns the accommodation, guess who hires out the golf buggies - yes, they come from the presidential estate.
So good news all round, while they secret service earn lots of overtime the presidential estates benefit enormously by being the nearest and only provider of beds and buggies.
Nice one Donald.
With a long history of not paying people who do work for him, he is now extending that pattern to Secret Service agents. If they work overtime they aren't being paid for it! It actually will take an act of Congress to get them paid/backpaid.

In 1 year he's going to exceed Obama's travel costs of 8 years because of crap like this. His company owns the carts and rooms, there is nothing stopping him from comping the costs. He actually is personally enriching himself on the dime of the US taxpayer.
Trump’s clubs charge $60K to rent carts to Secret Service as agency runs out of money

 

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clearly the most sym/pathetic president ever with his wordings
especially towards the American citizens he profesess to love so much
the most uncouth citter ever

and WW tragedies always seem to get a fraction more pseudo sympathy, trying to regain favour with the rest of the worlds leaders/people, no doubt.. been told/suggested to do such?




Trump Says ‘That’s Too Bad’ After Crash of USS John McCain
A search is underway near Singapore for 10 missing crew members of the guided-missile destroyer.
 

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clearly the most sym/pathetic president ever with his wordings
especially towards the American citizens he profesess to love so much
the most uncouth citter ever

and WW tragedies always seem to get a fraction more pseudo sympathy, trying to regain favour with the rest of the worlds leaders/people, no doubt.. been told/suggested to do such?




Trump Says ‘That’s Too Bad’ After Crash of USS John McCain
A search is underway near Singapore for 10 missing crew members of the guided-missile destroyer.

President Donald Trump’s initial reaction to the crash of the USS John McCain with a merchant ship east of Singapore that left five sailors injured and ten missing was: “That’s too bad!”

This shows what the man is really thinking white walking - or even waking. His true "so what" attitude came out true!

Admittedly later he did send a message of condolence to the crew and families - some hours later!

Just how his popularity had dropped - look at the betting odds


“We make it 6/4 that Trump will resign, so a chance of roughly 40 percent,” Paddy Power’s Head of Trump Betting Joe Lee told Mashable. “When he was inaugurated, the odds of Trump resigning before the end of his first term would have been 7/1.” With off the cuff statements like this and those about Charlottesville - no wonder!

Would you guys mind linking me to your outcry over Trump not saying anything particularly noteworthy about this incident?:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/tex...railer-outside-san-antonio-walmart-police-say

or this one, I'll accept this one as well: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...hootings-weekend-violence-20170821-story.html

You know what, let's say you hadn't heard of those. You've heard of this tragedy though cuz you're in here talking about it. Care to link me to the thread you've started expressing your gratitude for their service and your sympathies for their families? Cuz... I mean... it's not like you guys would use the death of active-duty sailors as a way to try to score political points, right?
 
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Care to link me to the thread you've started expressing your gratitude for their service and your sympathies for their families?

They can't cause they never started that kind of thread. My son is an active duty Marine and any such thread started by these keyboard warriors means shit to our family.
 

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dont know what your on about tbh T'star

way it is, dont over anal/lyze wont work where Trumps concerned
dont know if your supporting him as you usually do, or not?

he has ignorantly stated that 'off the cuff'
as he usually does and its so damn negative/offensive, that he deserves it to be placed out there like that
how many times has it/that happened?
where he has muttered very hurtful things to those affected

you/i would be treated the same, and deserve that negative treatment if we said similar

guts of the matter is
if he were a mature adult especially in the position he went for, he would have tried his utmost long ago, to change his behaviour, and display even a small amount of compassion immeadiately, not as an afterthought
thats the point of the matter to me anyway


Cuz... I mean... it's not like you guys would use the death of active-duty sailors as a way to try to score political points, right?

#2223TexanStar, 25 minutes ago

most regretful you state that ed
i would be ashamed to have you as my father with thoughts like that

My son is an active duty Marine and any such thread started by these keyboard warriors means shit to our family.

Ed69,36 minutes ago
 

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most regretful you state that ed
i would be ashamed to have you as my father with thoughts like that.

And I care about your shame why? My son and I hold the same view of people like you. You fail as a keyboard warrior, you can't even quote correctly.
 
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And I care about your shame why? My son and I hold the same view of people like you. You fail as a keyboard warrior, you can't even quote correctly.
I was pointing out the reality of what the president says in unguarded moments - the man is a prat - and not trying to score points otherwise I wouldn't have included his tweet about expressing his sympathy.
As president (and he only warrants lower case) he should be more aware that every utterance is going to be reported and private thoughts should remain private. From the so called commander in chief we hope that our boys will get better recognition.
 
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He wasn't acting as a realtor. He was the owner of the management, which, if I recall correctly, also happened to own the buildings.

I was using the word realtor in an expanded sense. I was not trying to absolve them from managment responsibilities of following the relatively new open housing laws, quite the contrary. I meant anyone involved in Real Estate business, buying, selling, managing, etc.
 
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If a few seconds of looking at the sun was all it took, we'd all be blinded from the time our infant selves did shit like this because we didn't know any better yet.

You missed your calling.

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Fascism is not to be tolerated. At all. Ever again. If fascists support your cause, you're wrong. There is no effective argument against this.

Not quite. Everyone must, in the end, choose the lesser of 2 evils when the final choice is binary. From their point-of-view, Fascists might choose a Republican as the lesser evil as compared to Hilary Clinton. This is no reflection on Republicans.

The Communist Party USA always supported Democrats as the lesser evil as compared to Republicans. That was no reflection on Democrats.
 
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Not quite. Everyone must, in the end, choose the lesser of 2 evils when the final choice is binary. From their point-of-view, Fascists might choose a Republican as the lesser evil as compared to Hilary Clinton. This is no reflection on Republicans.

The Communist Party USA always supported Democrats as the lesser evil as compared to Republicans. That was no reflection on Democrats.
Remember that the far right Nazi's, and White supremacy an are all tarred with the same brush and they support Donald
(historically you'll find that the Communists were bitter enemies of the Nazi party and the Gestapo)
 

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Donald Trump has committed the US military to winning the war in Afghanistan - and called on Nato allies, such as Britain, to increase troop numbers "in line with our own".
(remember that when the USA went to war in Iraq it dragged the UK in claiming the dodgy dossier was truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
The US president said that a withdrawal of troops would leave a power vacuum that would be filled by terrorists, as has happened in Iraq.
(mainly because if the USA had had a plan for after then this wouldn't have happened)
Several administration officials said that up to 4,000 additional US troops would be deployed to the country to combat a resurgent Taliban and the growing number of Islamic State fighters in the country
(so look out for the return of the body bags)
We will ask our Nato allies and global partners to support our new strategy with additional troop and funding increases in line with out own - we are confident they will,"
(again an American president taking action without consultation of his allies and excepting them to go along for the ride - and because he expects them to toe the line for him)
However, he also vowed to start winning wars - and his military advisers appear to have convinced him that any victory against the Taliban and Isis factions would be impossible without more troops and resources.
(so obviously Trump the pacifist is about to become Trump the warrior - regardless)
President Trump’s scepticism about America’s involvement in Afghanistan was no secret to his staff. But his top national security officials were still taken aback at a meeting in the Situation Room on July 19, when an angry Mr. Trump began ripping apart their latest proposal to send thousands of additional American troops to the country.
“We’re losing,” the president declared, according to a person who was in the room. The plan, he complained, was vague and open-ended, with no definition of victory. “What does success look like?” he asked.
( no secret that he preferred a pull out of troops - not so much because it was right but to score belated points about Obama)
On Monday night, Mr. Trump finally put forward a broader strategy for Afghanistan, one that would require thousands more American troops but place more conditions on the Afghan government. His decision was less a change of heart than a weary acceptance of the case, made during three months of intense White House debate by the military leaders who dominate his war cabinet.
In the end Mr. Trump accepted the logic that a “big military” approach was needed to prevent Afghanistan from again becoming a launching pad for terrorism against the United States. Persuaded there were no other options,
Trump became the third American president to send young men and women into the longest war in American history.

(and where was this promise when he was on the stump?)
 

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Fascism is not to be tolerated. At all. Ever again. If fascists support your cause, you're wrong. There is no effective argument against this.

Well, there is potentially an argument from civil rights.

What do you mean by fascism? Specifically I'm wondering what about it do you find particularly intolerable? And when you say it must not be tolerated, do you mean that politically? Do you think that free speech rights should not be extended either to self-identified fascists or those the mainstream identifies as fascists?
 

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Remember that the far right Nazi's, and White supremacy an are all tarred with the same brush and they support Donald
(historically you'll find that the Communists were bitter enemies of the Nazi party and the Gestapo)

The not-so-subtle implication that we'd be much better off with a Bolshevist society than a fascist one. Lulz
 
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Remember that the far right Nazi's, and White supremacy an are all tarred with the same brush and they support Donald (historically you'll find that the Communists were bitter enemies of the Nazi party and the Gestapo)

Yes, but I wasn't arguing against that. I was pointing-out the consequences of binary choices.
 
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Trump became the third American president to send young men and women into the longest war in American history. (and where was this promise when he was on the stump?)

Even Alexander the Great couln't handle Afghanistan. More proof there has been a military/NeoCon coup in the Whitehouse. One of Trump's good points was opposing war.
 

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Even Alexander the Great couln't handle Afghanistan. More proof there has been a military/NeoCon coup in the Whitehouse. One of Trump's good points was opposing war.
Which is precisely why I say world leaders would do well to look at history instead of creating it.
 

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Yes, but I wasn't arguing against that. I was pointing-out the consequences of binary choices.
There have always been extremes in the USA, always and untill we learn and find a way to go down the middle, till we stop giving centre stage to bigots on either side of the spectrum then things will go wrong
 

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The not-so-subtle implication that we'd be much better off with a Bolshevist society than a fascist one. Lulz
Just pointing out that left and right exist, and currently its the right supporting the president how actually enjoys their support.
Extremism from either camp is abhorrent to any sane sensible American - though there are those who swing violently to one side or the other.
In the past there were the Salem and witch-hunts for anyone who didn't fit in with the norm, then the McCarty with hunts for suspected Communists - which divided families and friends for live, cost a fortune and solved nothing other than giving a neurotic politician the headlines he craved, (and now, according to Donald he is a victim of a witch hunt) and who knows what else. The KKK could rise to even more prominence, the Black Panthers could return, the world in extremism is an oyster and, picking things over is just as likely to cause an eruption.
But let one leader show a preference to one side or the other and there are going to be consequences - and Republicanism isn't White Supremacy, neither are Democratics Communists..
 
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