The trump presidency

[keenobserver]

This, as expected, has caused a lot of other governors to say WTF? We want an exemption too. Trump loves fossil fuels but he also needs those states to win and I can't even think this out loud...reelection.


In other news from our once "special relationship" partner. The dotard wanted adulation and what awaited him was anything but.

Trump asked why 'pretty Korean lady' analyst wasn't negotiating with North Korea

All true, but Trump also has a rather pricey resort and golf course - Mar-A-Lago that he does not want the views marred with oil rigs. In Scotland he asked / demanded / sued to try to remove wind farms off the coast for a course he was building.

 

[deleted15807]

Fascists and racists in America have achieved what they've been dreaming of for decades: they finally have their king. Hence his approval numbers will not tank but may actually rise while America's standing in the world is literally flushed down the drain and will be a moral beacon for none.

It’s not every day you hear a television news anchor unabashedly calling a public figure “racist.” Broadcast journalists tend to tread lightly when describing racism, using terms such as “racially charged” or “racially tinged.” After all, racism is often in the eye of the beholder.

But it’s not every day that the president of the United States calls Haiti, El Salvador and African nations “shithole countries.” As The Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey reported Thursday, Trump derided protections for immigrants from these “shithole countries,” and suggested that instead, the United States should be bringing more people from countries such as Norway. (Trump hinted at a denial early Friday.)

When covering the president’s remarks, some CNN hosts made it clear that this time, they would not be holding back.

‘This is CNN Tonight. I’m Don Lemon. The president of the United States is racist.’
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And yet how many Republicans/Fox News/Breitbart apologists did anything but make excuses for the monster in the White House? A member of the Idiot Class here wanted Oprah to denounce Harvey Weinstein yet the silence of Trump's rabid racism is deafening. There will not be any denouncements or condemnations.

The most distressing part of these episodes is the so-called respectable Republicans who begin to cover for and rationalize Trump’s overt racism. Well, maybe he didn’t say it. But those countries are poor! But what he really meant was …​

The enablers of the racist president are back at it
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[phonehome]

And Michael Steele has finally had enough and threw in the towel and said yes water is wet

 

[deleted15807]

Why don't conservatives support mercy-killing and/or euthanasia for the poor? It's obvious they want them dead.

Kentucky Just Made It Harder For Poor People To Get Health Care
It’s what the Trump administration wants — and more states will likely follow.

if someone is on welfare they have negative value. If he earns a thousand times more than a schoolteacher, then he’s a thousand times more valuable.​

 

[chicagosam]

Why don't conservatives support mercy-killing and/or euthanasia for the poor? It's obvious they want them dead.

Kentucky Just Made It Harder For Poor People To Get Health Care
It’s what the Trump administration wants — and more states will likely follow.

if someone is on welfare they have negative value. If he earns a thousand times more than a schoolteacher, then he’s a thousand times more valuable.​

Who can forget Sarah Palin shrieking about Obamacare death panels?

 

[ozwestcoastboy]

The latest Trump 'toon from Australia's David Rowe . . .

 

[deleted15807]

Like his supporters....not much.

I asked Trump a blunt question: Do you read?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ml?tid=pm_opinions_pop&utm_term=.089e18efbe76​

 

[deleted15807]

Who can forget Sarah Palin shrieking about Obamacare death panels?

Oh the rubes have long forgotten. Amnesia sets in at about 30 days. You can tell them anything after that and it will be brand new. Bait and switch works so fabulously well because they can’t even remember the bait.

 

[chicagosam]

Oh the rubes have long forgotten. Amnesia sets in at about 30 days. You can tell them anything after that and it will be brand new. Bait and switch works so fabulously well because they can’t even remember the bait.

So...despite “mentally stable and being, like, really smart”, dementia, also?

 

[bigbull29]

His core supporters have a cultural representative. They'll only break from him - and never all of them - if he does something that really impacts their daily lives (taxes go way up, etc.). But many people across America vote against their own self-interest for reasons based in culture and religion. Sad and pathetic -- but very, very true.

Where I live, there is a state representative in my district who wants to become a congressman in DC. His platform over and over again in the local newspaper: I will fight tooth and nail for 2nd amendment rights (translation: don't care about mass shootings and gun violence; mentally ill can get gun- big deal; military-style weapons are cool for civilians); I will fight for traditional family values (translation: if you're not a middle-class/rich, heterosexual, white man/woman with children practicing some form of American conservative Christianity, you don't count); I will fight for the unborn and against Planned Parenthood (translation: women's bodies are to be male-controlled; and, yes, thousands of unwanted children can be born to then trigger all the Religious Right to bitch about all the welfare money these welfare queens take from big gov.); I will fight for lower taxes so you keep your hard-earned money that should never be "redistributed" (translation: no tax money for the lazy-ass poor and "born children").

^Sounds a lot like Jesus for sure.

What a dangerous ideology!

 

[chicagosam]

...But many people across America vote against their own self-interest for reasons based in culture and religion. Sad and pathetic -- but very, very true.
What a dangerous ideology!

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[Chrysippus]

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Might be time to discuss deus otiosus...or maybe deus fuckedupicus.

 

[bigbull29]

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If any good comes from this, I hope it shows people what conservative Protestantism is all about. If it wakes a few up about the danger of conservative religions, it served a little purpose.

 

[chicagosam]

If any good comes from this, I hope it shows people what conservative Protestantism is all about. If it wakes a few up about the danger of conservative religions, it served a little purpose.

Nothing epitomizes and defines Evangelical Christians and their values like Donald Trump.

 

[b.c.]

If any good comes from this, I hope it shows people what conservative Protestantism is all about. If it wakes a few up about the danger of conservative religions, it served a little purpose.

I sometimes think that maybe these people don't really believe in God anyway, or not the one they teach the masses about to keep everyone in line. Because if they really did, they'd fear the "hell" they preach to US about.

But what I've concluded is that these sorts do believe in a "god"- one made in THEIR own image and whose will becomes twisted into that which mirrors their OWN. And in doing so... via this rationalization, they thereby lend legitimacy (IF not sanctity) to that which they believe and support, anyway.

Which explains how/why they can speak of being "good Christians" while supporting an accused molester like Roy Moore, cheer a pastor who confesses to similar, and how and why they can support a lot of QUITE selfish, narrow-minded, bigoted, HATE based ideology - all justified under the auspices of their "god's will."

Lest we forget, the KKK were supposedly "good Christians" too, and lynching black people also part of "God's plan."

This explains why when some catastrophe strikes people who these so-called "good Christians" don't think too KINDLY of, it's always seen by them as punishment or "God's retribution" directed at the unfortunate victims. That is, until catastrophe strikes THEM, at which point it becomes the mere workings of an unfathomable and capricious nature.

So yeah... in THEIR mind, Trump would be "God's choice." So was Hitler, I'd imagine..........

 

[Chrysippus]

Nothing epitomizes and defines Evangelical Christians and their values like Donald Trump./QUOTE]

Hypocrites: a perfect example of the law of attraction—Trump and American Evangelicals.

 

[bigbull29]

Nothing epitomizes and defines Evangelical Christians and their values like Donald Trump.

If it looks like a cult, it must be.

 

[bigbull29]

I sometimes think that maybe these people don't really believe in God anyway, or not the one they teach the masses about to keep everyone in line. Because if they really did, they'd fear the "hell" they preach to US about.

But what I've concluded is that these sorts do believe in a "god"- one made in THEIR own image and whose will becomes twisted into that which mirrors their OWN. And in doing so... via this rationalization, they thereby lend legitimacy (IF not sanctity) to that which they believe and support, anyway.

Which explains how/why they can speak of being "good Christians" while supporting an accused molester like Roy Moore, cheer a pastor who confesses to similar, and how and why they can support a lot of QUITE selfish, narrow-minded, bigoted, HATE based ideology - all justified under the auspices of their "god's will."

Lest we forget, the KKK were supposedly "good Christians" too, and lynching black people also part of "God's plan."

This explains why when some catastrophe strikes people who these so-called "good Christians" don't think too KINDLY of, it's always seen by them as punishment or "God's retribution" directed at the unfortunate victims. That is, until catastrophe strikes THEM, at which point it becomes the mere workings of an unfathomable and capricious nature.

So yeah... in THEIR mind, Trump would be "God's choice." So was Hitler, I'd imagine..........

You're speaking truth here. Excellent points.

Fundamentally, it isn't about acting like Jesus, a selfless man who want to right all the world's social injustices. That's never been what Evangelical Christianity is about, or religions in general. They're about control and like-mindedness, triggering strong tribalism, the "US vs. THEM" mentality. It's not even about issues at times, either. The issues are there to create a difference with the people who make think differently. This is OUR culture. These are OUR people. You're the enemy because YOU are not ONE of US.

 

[chicagosam]

If it looks like a cult, it must be.

The cult of Trump. It may explain the fervent, aggressive, myopic responses posted by his supporters. They seem to be in sync with him as he spins progressively out of control.

 

[bigbull29]

The cult of Trump. It may explain the fervent, aggressive, myopic responses posted by his supporters. They seem to be in sync with him as he spins progressively out of control.

He's "representing" their white, redneck culture: using religion, 2nd amendment, rural culture, hate of minorities and on the poor (even though a lot of Trump supporters are poor and don't practice "appropriate family values"). He's one of us. We finally have someone in government who is US, the real white, hardworking Americans.

Are there liberal rednecks? Yes. Vermont has the most, maybe. But there are not enough of them to really count as a visible minority.