The trump presidency

[Wei]

It's wild to think Cohen and Manafort probably would've gotten away with this—all they had to do was not get their boss elected president of the United States.

It's the ultimate irony....

 

[Wei]

Gee I hope for their sake that Iowa has "sanctuary cities"

Hahaha

 

[chicagosam]

Why anyone would risk prison to protect an asshole like Trump boggles the mind. He destroys everyone in his massive fat ass orbit. There are black holes, and then there is the hole we know as Trump.

 

[Chrysippus]

More Republican good news today:
Rep. Duncan Hunter and his wife indicted in use of campaign funds for personal expenses
Duncan Hunter and his wife indicted for using campaign funds for personal expenses - CNNPolitics
Sooooooooooeeeee pig! pig! pig!

 

[phonehome]

Always thought he was an entitled asshole who got EVERYTHING because he had Daddies name.

He "inherited" his daddies seat in the house

Just like that Eddie Murphy movie "the distinguished gentleman" I am sure that there were plenty of people that did not even know they were not still voting for his dad that first time.

 

[Novaboy]

I can see tomorrow's game plan from the right already:

1. Ignore everything and push the fact that Mollie Tibbins was murdered by an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT
2. If pressed say Cohen is a liar who is lying about Trump to save his own ass
3. Manafort not convicted of 10 of the 18 charges. More than half! Innocent!
4. Also Manafort really didn't do much while he worked for Trump
5. STILL no evidence of collusion!

6. Find a way to involve Obama and Crooked Hillary!

 

[Novaboy]

And mob boss is exactly how he's responded so far. Like saying White House counsel Don McGahn won't be "a rat" like John Dean (translation, he'd better not "rat.") In Trump logic, testifying to the TRUTH under oath or before a special investigation makes one "a rat"... that is, when it's testimony that might incriminate TRUMP. (Can you spell "obstruction"?)

Meanwhile:

NYT conservative columnist Bret Stephens calls for impeachment—Trump clearly guilty of high crimes
Let's be clear: Trump paid off his affairs "for purposes of influencing the election."
Trump became [white house occupant] by criminal conspiracy. Let that sink in.

Trump and his supporters don't seem to realize that someone can only be a "rat" if there is something to tell. Loyalty to Trump is all he cares about. Laws, rules, truth, respect are not even on his radar. A disgrace! Sad!

 

[Novaboy]

And!!

Manafort convicted of 8 counts, judge will declare mistrial in 10 others
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I have not read any reports as to which counts were deadlocked. Were the lessor ones? Were his convictions for the "big" ones?

 

[Klingsor]

I have not read any reports as to which counts were deadlocked. Were the lessor ones? Were his convictions for the "big" ones?

Not really. Both the convicted and the deadlocked counts had to with tax evasion, bank fraud, and failing to report foreign accounts. Not clear what made the difference in each instance, but it was a complex case with reams of documents to sift through.

 

[deleted116951]

6. Find a way to involve Obama and Crooked Hillary!

So far today got 3 out of 5 right!

 

[deleted15807]

Not really. Both the convicted and the deadlocked counts had to with tax evasion, bank fraud, and failing to report foreign accounts. Not clear what made the difference in each instance, but it was a complex case with reams of documents to sift through.

The deadlocked ones seem to be ones where the star witness, Rick Gates, is involved. And the thinking now is the jury had issues with his credibility. Whatever it is thought now the prosecution is happy with the verdict and will not attempt a retrial.

 

[deleted15807]

Trump and his supporters don't seem to realize that someone can only be a "rat" if there is something to tell. Loyalty to Trump is all he cares about. Laws, rules, truth, respect are not even on his radar. A disgrace! Sad!

These people are called “snitches” in the hood you know the ones all minorities live in that’s riddled with crime and is indicative of moral failings. Well they’ve brought that life to the White House but now surprisingly it’s OK.

 

[StormfrontFL]

So far today got 3 out of 5 right!

Well on one it looks like they got it wrong (but they'll still spread the lie and hope it sticks)

 

[chicagosam]

As I understand it, the prosecution is still able to retry the 10 counts that were declared mistrial.

Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts​

Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts

 

[b.c.]

Report: Everyone Connected to Trump Is a Crook | Vanity Fair
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/duncan-hunter-indictment
Fox poll shows Mueller, Obamacare more popular than Trump, GOP tax law BY DOUBLE DIGITS
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...pular-than-Trump-GOP-tax-law-BY-DOUBLE-DIGITS
Donald Trump Basically Admitted To A Federal Crime | HuffPost

 

[deleted15807]

As more and more evidence comes to light it's clear Election 2016 was a scam. Unfortunately the Constitution has no article on how to undo a scam election.

Our illegitimate president
The voters of the United States must now say to this Congress what Oliver Cromwell said to the Rump Parliament in 1653: “Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government. . . . Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. . . . Go, get you out! Make haste! . . . In the name of God, go!”​

 

[deleted15807]

Not really. Both the convicted and the deadlocked counts had to with tax evasion, bank fraud, and failing to report foreign accounts. Not clear what made the difference in each instance, but it was a complex case with reams of documents to sift through.

Updates:

A juror in the trial of Paul Manafort said Wednesday that all but one of the jurors wanted to convict President Trump’s former campaign chairman on every charge he faced — though she criticized special counsel prosecutors as seeming “bored” throughout the trial and said she believed their true motive was to “get the dirt on Trump.”​

Lone holdout on Manafort jury blocked conviction on all counts, juror says
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Confirmed they didn't like Gates. “We agreed to throw out his testimony and look at the paperwork,” Duncan said of Gates.

There is some reason for hope. Here are two Trumpers who, when presented with facts, reached a conclusion - on 8 counts for one, all 18 for the other - that rejected Cult 45. That at least one was clearly hostile to the prosecution makes the outcome even more impressive.

 

[deleted15807]

If anyone doubt we have a mob boss running the country take this in:

Trump Suggests Cooperating With Prosecutors Should Be A Crime

President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested that “flipping” to make a deal with prosecutors “almost ought to be outlawed,” and falsely claimed that his former personal attorney Michael Cohen’s crimes “weren’t crimes.”​

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[Novaboy]

If anyone doubt we have a mob boss running the country take this in:

Trump Suggests Cooperating With Prosecutors Should Be A Crime

President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested that “flipping” to make a deal with prosecutors “almost ought to be outlawed,” and falsely claimed that his former personal attorney Michael Cohen’s crimes “weren’t crimes.”​

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Again, just like missing the point that a "rat" needs something to rat about, he again doesn't seem to realize that what he's saying is that all the crimes and misdeeds committed deserve some sort of protection! But then in his mind anyone flipping is just making things up.

 

[Novaboy]

Updates:

A juror in the trial of Paul Manafort said Wednesday that all but one of the jurors wanted to convict President Trump’s former campaign chairman on every charge he faced — though she criticized special counsel prosecutors as seeming “bored” throughout the trial and said she believed their true motive was to “get the dirt on Trump.”​

Lone holdout on Manafort jury blocked conviction on all counts, juror says
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Confirmed they didn't like Gates. “We agreed to throw out his testimony and look at the paperwork,” Duncan said of Gates.

There is some reason for hope. Here are two Trumpers who, when presented with facts, reached a conclusion - on 8 counts for one, all 18 for the other - that rejected Cult 45. That at least one was clearly hostile to the prosecution makes the outcome even more impressive.

Paints a very different picture than only 8 out of 18 for conviction. Doesn't sound like this juror was impartial at all. There must have been amazingly compelling evidence to convict on the 8 if even this person couldn't find some sort of percieved doubt.