Theres No Gold Star Gay Men In Gay Porn Anymore. The Rise Of Sexual Fluidity.

[Alex57]

You didn't give me credible research. You said "Google it." That's not credible research, nor is it a peer-reviewed academic paper. What you asked me to do was go find something to validate your point for you. What I said was no. Because the issue with those sorts of surveys is they require honesty and a wider net than most can feasibly cast. If you ask 100 people, the statistical pool is so small that no answer you get will be truly reliable. So you would need to provide actual research with clear definitions of data acquisition for me to start there.

Again, no one is shaming anyone into dating anyone. You seem to be playing strawman games rather than addressing my points (and outright admit to refusing to answer them just proves that.)

Bisexuals who identify themselves as bisexuals in a heterosexual presenting relationship are still discriminated against. You are suggesting that bisexuals hide who they are. Which is something homosexuality can do, too - just don't date! Voila, you now present het. It's wrong to suggest anyone live in ways that aren't true to themselves.

You very clearly have problems with all bi people. You apply ridiculous stereotypes and pretend otherwise. Which stereotype are you happy to be given as a gay man?

I'm calling out bullshit right now. Don't reply back to me unless you're willing to actually answer the points I make.

This is one credible source out of many. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...bians-to-be-out-to-the-people-in-their-lives/

I am done replying to your nonsense! You can keep living in your deluded bubble. The real world isn’t the internet fantasy you live in.

 

[Nimajnev]

This is one credible source out of many. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...bians-to-be-out-to-the-people-in-their-lives/

I am done replying to your nonsense! You can keep living in your deluded bubble. The real world isn’t the internet fantasy you live in.

Good job replying without answering my questions. You're the one suffering from biases, not me.

"This is likely due at least in part to the fact that LGB adults make up a small share of the overall adult population, so the pool of potential same-sex partners is much smaller than the pool of opposite-sex partners."

"The 2013 survey also found that LGBT adults said that bisexual men faced less social acceptance than bisexual women, gay men and lesbians. Just 8% of LGBT adults felt there was a lot of social acceptance of bisexual men, while 46% said there was only a little or no social acceptance for this group. Among bisexuals, 40% reported in 2013 that they had ever been subject to slurs or jokes and 31% said they had been rejected by a friend or family member because they were bisexual."

None of this shows a higher propensity for bi adults to cheat or to break up specifically for "social acceptance."

Thanks for playing, though.

 

[Alex57]

You're talking to a brick wall. Pointless tbh lol clouded by bias and his narrative won't be shifted by logic. Waste of time.

You nor him hasn’t presented any logics. I talked about factual reality while he argues baseless idealism. The real world isn’t the internet kiddo!

 

[Alex57]

Good job replying without answering my questions. You're the one suffering from biases, not me.

You argue like an entitled child! I’m done replying to you.

 

[Nimajnev]

You argue like an entitled child! I’m done replying to you.

You don't argue at all. You throw a tantrum about people "forcing you" to do things, while ignoring the actual truth of the matter.

Sorry, it took me more than a minute or two to read your article (which, by the way, doesn't say what you think it does.) I edited my reply to point that out. You don't argue about "reality." You argue about your perception of reality.

If you're done replying to me - you don't have to announce it. Just don't.

 

[Alex57]

Good job replying without answering my questions. You're the one suffering from biases, not me.

"This is likely due at least in part to the fact that LGB adults make up a small share of the overall adult population, so the pool of potential same-sex partners is much smaller than the pool of opposite-sex partners."

"The 2013 survey also found that LGBT adults said that bisexual men faced less social acceptance than bisexual women, gay men and lesbians. Just 8% of LGBT adults felt there was a lot of social acceptance of bisexual men, while 46% said there was only a little or no social acceptance for this group. Among bisexuals, 40% reported in 2013 that they had ever been subject to slurs or jokes and 31% said they had been rejected by a friend or family member because they were bisexual."

None of this shows a higher propensity for bi adults to cheat or to break up specifically for "social acceptance."

Thanks for playing, though.

You’re a flip-flopper who loves to gaslight. You asked to present evidence that most bisexual are closeted, I did. If most bisexuals are closeted in hetero-relationships, why would they break up for social acceptance? They’re already in socially acceptable relationships. At this point you’re just trolling for attention.

 

[Alex57]

Good job replying without answering my questions. You're the one suffering from biases, not me.

"This is likely due at least in part to the fact that LGB adults make up a small share of the overall adult population, so the pool of potential same-sex partners is much smaller than the pool of opposite-sex partners."

"The 2013 survey also found that LGBT adults said that bisexual men faced less social acceptance than bisexual women, gay men and lesbians. Just 8% of LGBT adults felt there was a lot of social acceptance of bisexual men, while 46% said there was only a little or no social acceptance for this group. Among bisexuals, 40% reported in 2013 that they had ever been subject to slurs or jokes and 31% said they had been rejected by a friend or family member because they were bisexual."

None of this shows a higher propensity for bi adults to cheat or to break up specifically for "social acceptance."

Thanks for playing, though.

The reality still remain that many bisexuals prefer hetero-relationships and many gay men have bad experiences dating bi men who leave them for a heteronormative lifestyle. That’s one main reason many gay men only prefer to date gay men. It’s self-preservation, you have no right dictating who others choose to date or have sex with. Your new age entitlement to sex is already facing a lot of backlash from society.

 

[bigboaster]

The reality still remain that many bisexuals prefer hetero-relationships and many gay men have bad experiences dating bi men who leave them for a heteronormative lifestyle. That’s one main reason many gay men only prefer to date gay men. It’s self-preservation, you have no right dictating who others choose to date or have sex with. Your new age entitlement to sex is already facing a lot of backlash from society.

Why do you assume any bisexual guy wants anything to do with you anyway? lmao. Because you seem like such a sweetheart.

 

[Alex57]

Why do you assume any bisexual guy wants anything to do with you anyway? lmao. Because you seem like such a sweetheart.

Typical childish respond when you don’t have an argument. Expected!

 

[Nimajnev]

The reality still remain that many bisexuals prefer hetero-relationships and many gay men have bad experiences dating bi men who leave them for a heteronormative lifestyle. That’s one main reason many gay men only prefer to date gay men. It’s self-preservation, you have no right dictating who others choose to date or have sex with. Your new age entitlement to sex is already facing a lot of backlash from society.

You say "many." Except you're basing that off nothing but your own bias. You said it SEVERAL times, and each time, you're just explicitly wrong.

There is no entitlement to sex or relationships. You can keep ignoring the things I say in favor of your strawman, but I believe I told you to stop replying to me unless you're going to ACTUALLY deal with my points.

 

[bigboaster]

Typical childish respond when you don’t have an argument. Expect!

It was an actual question though. Do you have something that just attracts bi men in droves? If not then what is your malfunction?

If you don't want to sleep with bi guys, then just don't. You don't need to proselytize about the evils of bi guys like some bitter ex though, smh. Get a grip. Let others sleep with whoever they want, they don't need a lesson from your narrow minded world view

 

[Alex57]

You say "many." Except you're basing that off nothing but your own bias. You said it SEVERAL times, and each time, you're just explicitly wrong.

There is no entitlement to sex or relationships. You can keep ignoring the things I say in favor of your strawman, but I believe I told you to stop replying to me unless you're going to ACTUALLY deal with my points.

There are no “points” of yours to “actually” deal with. At this point, I’m only feeding a troll. Now I will stop feeding you!

 

[Alex57]

It was an actual question though. Do you have something that just attracts bi men in droves? If not then what is your malfunction?

If you don't want to sleep with bi guys, then just don't. You don't need to proselytize about the evils of bi guys like some bitter ex though, smh. Get a grip. Let others sleep with whoever they want, they don't need a lesson from your narrow minded world view

Where did I ever tell anyone not to “sleep” with who they want to? You seemed butthurt because I called out deceptive bi men on their bullshit. Sounds like you’re guilty! Lol

 

[bbnc44]

You possibly noticed that many gay porn stars who claims to be 100% gay, are saying on their twitter '' would you like to see me in a bisexual scene? '' '' Should i make a bisexual scene? '' '' I just did a bisexual scene and it was hot. '' Its becoming very common. It looks like theres no 100% gay men in gay porn anymore. Which is dissapointing. Especially when gay porn used to have gay men who were really 100% gay. Now, they all embrace and even seems to encourage gay men do follow this sexual fluid trend.

Theres another thread about gay porn stars who are supposedly gay who make bisexual scenes. But these gay porn stars are clearly not 100% gay. They are sexually fluid or even closeted bisexual men. Most men in this thread are basically encouraging it. This thread is disturbing and wrong. I cant believe so many gay men are into this sick fantasy about gay men having sex with a woman. Its not hot. Its problematic. They are basically giving ammunitions to homophobic straight people who says that being gay is a choice. Therefore, they thinks that gay men can choose to go straight again. Just like conversion therapy. Its bad. Really bad.

I cant watch nowadays gay porn anymore. Because its so obvious that theres no such things as gold star gay men in gay porn anymore. They are all sexually fluid. I think that gold star gay men are aware of it by now. Gay porn stars are either mostly into women or mostly into men. Theres no Kinsey 0 men or Kinsey 6 men in gay porn. It mostly a Kinsey 1 men and Kinsey 5 men affair.

Do you remember former gay porn star Wesley Woods? The gay porn star who claimed and still claims to be 100%? gay. He made many bisexual scenes and transegender scenes and he got called off for it by real 100% gay men. He said that 100% gay men who refuse to watch bisexual scenes are biphobic and close minded. No, there are none of that. They are into men. Therefore, they are not expected to see women in porn. They just wanna see men. Many other (((so called))) gay men in gay porn nowadays also attacks gold star gay men on twitter who complains about sexual fluidity being thrown in their throat and the lack of real gay men in gay porn. According to nowadays fluiders, all gold star gay men should praise sexual fluidity and shut up. Mmmmmm. No!

I only watch gay porn from the golden era of gay porn. Which is the 70s, 80s and 90s. When gay porn was still gay and there was still tons of gold star gay men in gay porn. Gay porn always had sexually fluid men. But, it was definitely not as common as it is now. Now, pretty much all gay porn stars who claims to be gay are a bit into women sexually. Which is a huge turn off and kills the fantasy. Gold star gay men likes to think that the gay porn stars who claims to be gay are really only into men.

Gay porn from the 70s = Gay for pay were minority. The vast majority were gold star gay men.
Gay porn from the 80s = A bit more gay for pay men, gold star gay men were still the majority.
Gay porn from the 90s = At that point it was almost 50/50. Gold star gay men were still at the top.
Gay porn from the 2000s = Gold star gay men lost their majority there. Many gold star gay men left.
Gay porn from the 2010s = This is when it all went down.
Gay porn from the 2020s = Unwatchable.

The point is, gay porn should always have been and always be about gay men having GAY sex with gay men only. Lets face it. Gay porn is not gay porn anymore. Its just male porn.

Gay porn stars nowadays are sexually fluid. They belongs in the bisexual spectrum. Thats why they make bisexual scenes. If they were really 100% gay, then they would never have sex with women. They would stick to men only. They aint called 100% gay men for nothing. 100% really means 100%. Not 99%, 95%, 93% ect... Theres no two types of 100%. A real one and a fake one. Theres only one 100%.

Sexuality is not black or white. Theres all the shades of grey in the middle. And theres more then fifty shades.

What do you think about gay porn stars who claims to be 100% gay but still have sex with many women inside and outside of gay porn?

what is kinsy o or 6.?

 

[bigboaster]

Where did I ever tell anyone not to “sleep” with who they want to? You seemed butthurt because I called out deceptive bi men on their bullshit. Sounds like you’re guilty! Lol

So when you wrote this: "This is one main reason many gay men avoid bi men. Most bi men only want to use gay men for sex while they’re closeted in long-term relationship with women enjoying heterosexual privilege."

The implication wasn't that gay men should not sleep with/avoid bisexual guys bc they will only use them and then discard them? Hahahaha. I guess we no longer disagree then. Thanks bud. Personal growth is good.

 

[Alex57]

So when you wrote this: "This is one main reason many gay men avoid bi men. Most bi men only want to use gay men for sex while they’re closeted in long-term relationship with women enjoying heterosexual privilege."

The implication wasn't that gay men should not sleep with/avoid bisexual guys bc they will only use them and then discard them? Hahahaha. I guess we no longer disagree then. Thanks bud. Personal growth is good.

I see that comment hurts you. Your conscience is bothered. If you read with comprehension skills, you would understand that what I’m saying is that according to you most bi men prefer hetero relationships because it’s easier for them. My reply was was just pointing out that because of this reason many gay men avoid bi men. Cause and effect! Most bi men prefer relationships with women and gay men avoid these bi men. It’s that simple! For every action there is a reaction.

 

[Nimajnev]

There are no “points” of yours to “actually” deal with. At this point, I’m only feeding a troll. Now I will stop feeding you!

Oh, so then you admit you didn't actually read anything I said, and just constructed your own strawman argument because you're hurt.

That's understandable, but I wish you hadn't wasted my time. (And again, you don't have to SAY you're done talking, if you're done talking.)

 

[Marco Tony]

Be careful to not go off topic. This thread is about the sexual fluidity of gay porn stars. You are turnin it into a bisexual topic. Which is off topic. Focus on the sexual fluidity of gay porn stars. Or make your own bisexual thread for that type of discussion. Here, its all about gay porn stars who are not that gay anymore. Therefore, they are sexually fluid.

 

[Marco Tony]

Another so called (gay) gay porn star who praise the vagina. At this point, its really getting out of control. It almost look as if they do it on purpose just to shock and piss off 100% gay men. They are delusional if they thinks that they are 100% gay. They are clearly sexually fluid. Its not surprising that many gold star gay men makes fun of them on twitter. The bi-erasure shows itself again.

 

[Nimajnev]

Another so called (gay) gay porn star who praise the vagina. At this point, its really getting out of control. It almost look as if they do it on purpose just to shock and piss off 100% gay men. They are delusional if they thinks that they are 100% gay. They are clearly sexually fluid. Its not surprising that many gold star gay men makes fun of them on twitter. The bi-erasure shows itself again.

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