They found a killer now?

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to be honest. i always thought it was the parents. both of them in on it. someone had to have feed jon bennet the pineapple. and both of her parents were asleep. the dude who killed her like, found EVERYTHING he used way too easy. he had time to write and re-write ransom notes. and the police didn't find the body on the first search, but the father did? hell no! the parents totally did it!
 

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jeff black said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14379566/?GT1=8404

I am sorry, but this seems a bit silly. TEN years later, some mysterious man comes from no where to confess??

After blaming the child's Mother for long enough ; Mrs Ramsay died of cancer earlier this year !
Her 12 year brother was also implicated ....
I found the trial by ordeal aspects of Jon Bernet's murder galling ; all those photographs of a 4 year old with heavy make-up, lowcut tops and coloured contact lenses seemed vaguely obscene.
We can only hope that the latest suspect is not just an attenton seeker .
 

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surferboy said:
to be honest. i always thought it was the parents. both of them in on it. the parents totally did it!

And since they've been cleared, the cops are totally still on them.

There's been no direct evidence that links them conclusively, so the Ramseys like it or not, are off the suspects list.
 

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maybe they didn't do the actual killing, but i i still believe they were in on it.

also, in a way, i'm kinda happy jon bennet is dead. her life must have sucked, being forced to compete in those pageants. not because she wanted to, but because her parents forced her to. she should have been playing with her friends, not learning how to walk properly and apply make up. her childhood must have sucked.
 

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I think it's a bit galling that you're happy an innocent child is dead, at the hands of some insane killer, whether this be the guy or not. Having said that.....

The timing on this is suspicious for me, too. Why did it take ten years to get this guy? He was someone who KNEW Jon Benet & the family, and then LEFT THE COUNTRY!! Of course this is a GREAT story. Nothing like this kind of drama to take our collective minds off gas prices, the economy and the turmoil in the mideast.

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surferboy said:
maybe they didn't do the actual killing, but i i still believe they were in on it.

also, in a way, i'm kinda happy jon bennet is dead. her life must have sucked, being forced to compete in those pageants. not because she wanted to, but because her parents forced her to. she should have been playing with her friends, not learning how to walk properly and apply make up. her childhood must have sucked.
 

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dudepiston said:
I think it's a bit galling that you're happy an innocent child is dead, at the hands of some insane killer, whether this be the guy or not. Having said that.....

The timing on this is suspicious for me, too. Why did it take ten years to get this guy? He was someone who KNEW Jon Benet & the family, and then LEFT THE COUNTRY!! Of course this is a GREAT story. Nothing like this kind of drama to take our collective minds off gas prices, the economy and the turmoil in the mideast.

-dp


you misinterpreted what i said. i didn't say i was happy an innocent child was murdered. i'm happy that she's now in a better place, where her soul can be free from her overbearing parents. where she's no long forced to participate in meaningless pageants just so she can feel loved by her parents. that is what i meant.
 

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In a better place? For all you know, her "heaven" IS one big beauty pageant. Seriously dude, I agree with you though. I don't think that's ANY way to live a childhood, same thing for parents who parade their kids around as pop music stars at the age of 4. But there are other solutions to this besides going to the Pearly Gates, don't you think? :)




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you misinterpreted what i said. i didn't say i was happy an innocent child was murdered. i'm happy that she's now in a better place, where her soul can be free from her overbearing parents. where she's no long forced to participate in meaningless pageants just so she can feel loved by her parents. that is what i meant.
 

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The whole Ramsey thing is beyond annoying.

Who cares? It's American tabloid media at its very worst.

The whole thing has a kitsch quality to it that would make for a crappy movie of the week.
 

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Yep, a crappy "Lifetime T.V. for Women" movie that you will probably not only watch but sit there blubbering into your Kleenex. =)




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The whole Ramsey thing is beyond annoying.

Who cares? It's American tabloid media at its very worst.

The whole thing has a kitsch quality to it that would make for a crappy movie of the week.
 

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Let the poor little girl rest in peace. It's bad enough she was humiliated against her own will before she was old enough to wipe her own butt. Now ten years later the tacky pictures are plastered all over the place again. Geez - the media in this country is a disgrace and should be ashamed.
 

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curiousgurl said:
Let the poor little girl rest in peace. It's bad enough she was humiliated against her own will before she was old enough to wipe her own butt. Now ten years later the tacky pictures are plastered all over the place again. Geez - the media in this country is a disgrace and should be ashamed.

There isn't really anything to be done about sensationalism in american media nowadays there, Curiousgurl. Especially when it's a particularly violent case like Jon Benet that's recently discovered a possible real suspect.
 

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It always annoyed me that the number one reason all the media know-it-alls gave for suspecting the mother was that she didn't seem to be grieving. Fuck all of them. Who are they to tell a mother how to grieve? When my mother and Aunt died, my grandmother was cool as November. That's how women in my family grieve. We refuse to have strangers witness our private anguish. We won't even show each other unless it's very extreme. If I'm ever a mother and one of mine is victimized, I guess I'll be a suspect to. "That's one cold bitch," they'll say of me.
 

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MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK said:
There isn't really anything to be done about sensationalism in american media nowadays there, Curiousgurl. Especially when it's a particularly violent case like Jon Benet that's recently discovered a possible real suspect.


Chuck?

Here's the thing with this case. Perhaps you or someone here can explain it to me...

Why is it that it's been so sensationalized? Murders happen daily in this country. I don't get why this upper middle class family whose child was murdered gets so much national attention where other equally heinous crimes go largely unnoticed by the media (only to be featured on some "whodunit" episode of Dateline NBC).

From the beginning of the coverage of this thing it's had annoyance appeal only to me. Sure... sorry the child was killed. Sure.... the parents had some money. Sure.... the beauty pageant thing is preposterous.

But who the fuck cares?

For us even to be having this discussion on this board makes it pretty clear to me that it's the media who's responsible for the crucifiction of Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey and the manipulation of the public in general. I mean I never found either parent terribly interesting or likeable but what of it?

They're just people.

As Bronx says; who are we to tell anyone how to grieve?

Now the mother's gone to her grave and the sensation hounds have ruined that family's life. Fucking gross.
 

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I think "Joe Public" is suckered in to a mystery case. On some level to solve the case and bring it to rest..at the same time there is such distance from actually knowing the people that there is little emotion involved by the audience.

I have always been interested in the case becasue the dynamics in themselves are just over the top. The beauty pag. stuff just seems to have this child porn quality. I mean the girl is reheared to flirt and remove clothing on stage and throw it over her shoulder. These actions must be taught to her of course. I guess one thinks at that point "what wouldn't a mother do if she would parade her child around"

The ransome note for the odd number is the exact amount the father recieved for a bonus.

The parents said she was with them Christmas eve and they all went to bed at the same time coming home from a party. Yet the guy that has been picked up says he took her from school.

I still believe he has an unknown connection to that family...and that they had knowledge of this person. I won't say I guess what I believe happened becasue so many get upset. Just an odd affair
 

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The commercial media's job is to capture market share. It makes no sense to blame them for doing what they're supposed to.

The real culprit is that goof we (collectively) see when we look in the mirror.
 

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Well the investigation is going on and the guy is presumed inocent of this crime...

But he ran from arrest from child porno...like many of those sick bastard persons some go to third world to get there what they cant freely in first world...just imagine a child predator in places where child prostitution and explotation goes on...i feel for those kids being victms of them and the dispair of their individual life of those without voice in this world.

Yes, one more sick bastard took from the streets of this world and hope he will receive the full weight of punishment of his crimes.
 

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I suppose you have a point, and I realize that there is nothing anyone can do to change it. I just can't help but feel that such sensationalism is not only a humiliation but also a disservice to any American citizen who turns on the TV or radio in search of REAL news.

I am not one to point fingers or put down anyone's occupation. I recognize that these reporters and networks are only doing their jobs. However there is a lot to be said about dignity and respect. After all, a mafia hit man is doing his job, does that mean that we should dismiss his criminal behavior simply because it's "his job". I hope not. Of course I'm not equating criminal behavior with tacky media reporting…but still, you get my point. A spade is a spade, no matter how you look at it. Doing a job is irrelevant, what you can (or can't) do to change it is irrelevant. Putting an individuals pain/dirty laundry on public display is a shameful way to gain attention, end of story. All IM simple minded O, of course :smile:


MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK said:
There isn't really anything to be done about sensationalism in american media nowadays there, Curiousgurl. Especially when it's a particularly violent case like Jon Benet that's recently discovered a possible real suspect.