This wholeTwilight Vampire New Werewolf Moon Madness...

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-an english actor name roger Pattinson...

Oh, Flash, how could you???!!!
His name is Robert Pattinson.


FWIW, I don't quite get the fuss either.
The actors, particularly Pattinson, are just mobbed ...

I would, however, like to cash Stephenie Meyer's royalty checks. Seventy million copies of the Twilight series sold, in 37 languages.
No accounting for taste.
 

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Well Flashy, you know how it is, especially in Show-biz. you are eithe IN, or you are OUT. There always has to be some current, trendy, happening thing, and Twilgiht has all the componenats to be just that. I do not subscribe to it, have never seen any of the pics, and dont follow the actors from it, although I do think Taylor Lautner (Jacob) is hotter than Pattinson . As is with most pop-culture, i rarely see what all the fuss is about. Guess I am just over-the-hill ???
 

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Well Flashy, you know how it is, especially in Show-biz. you are eithe IN, or you are OUT. There always has to be some current, trendy, happening thing, and Twilgiht has all the componenats to be just that. I do not subscribe to it, have never seen any of the pics, and dont follow the actors from it, although I do think Taylor Lautner (Jacob) is hotter than Pattinson . As is with most pop-culture, i rarely see what all the fuss is about. Guess I am just over-the-hill ???

true...i have no idea who any of them are anyway.
 

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... it's hard not to notice taylor lautner lately when he's been doing the press tour for new moon.

I do think Taylor Lautner (Jacob) is hotter than Pattinson.

He's seems to be an impressive kid.
He was top-ranked in the world at one point in several junior karate events.
He's very self-possessed and has a real charm.
Said to be highly intelligent.
Got a smile that would light up a room.
I have no idea how well he acts, but I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a good actor.
Seems to know how to achieve his dreams.
I hope he doesn't get trapped in the Twilight fandango.
I imagine the film series will go on past this second installment.






 
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I've got to say this is bugging me too. New Moon seems to be based entirely on the premise of a bunch of vaguely hot guys without shirts on running around. It doesn't really seem to have anything else going for it, and I find it a bit degrading really.

I can't watch the trailers without hearing the noise of the bottle of a barrel being scraped, and teenage girls screaming.
 

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The third installment of the saga is already finished filming with a release date set for June 2010 ... the forth book is rumoured to be turned into two movies .. CANT WAIT!

He's seems to be an impressive kid.
He was top-ranked in the world at one point in several junior karate events.
He's very self-possessed and has a real charm.
Said to be highly intelligent.
Got a smile that would light up a room.
I have no idea how well he acts, but I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a good actor.
Seems to know how to achieve his dreams.
I hope he doesn't get trapped in the Twilight fandango.
I imagine the film series will go on past this second installment.






 

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Twilight is the worst movie I've ever watched, 3 fucking times.

The ex had some sort of obsession with it. It was like porn to her. The only reason I watched it 3 fucking times because it made her horny as hell and as soon as it finished I knew I was going to be jumped on.
 

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what the hell is this all about?

...have i honestly missed something important?

this seems like just another version of nsync/backstreet boys teen-girl induced hysteria over nothing.

I always find it funny when guys claim not to understand why teenage girls swoon over the latest boy band/actor/fill in blank. It's the same reason some guys fawn over chicks like Megan Fox and the rest of us roll our eyes because we're unimpressed.

The movie leaves much to be desired but, as mentioned by others already, contains a variety of yummy men. If you don't like one you can probably find another upon which to feast your eyes. It's already been noted that teenage girls are the target audience so if you're a guy and don't like it that might be a clue. If you can't figure out why a story about a regular plain Jane girl falling in love with a visually stunning vampire who loves her so much he'll do anything to protect her would be such a hot commodity with young women then you're right. You probably just don't get it.

It's been hailed as "abstinence porn" and probably the best description i've heart yet. When I read the books I could see the appeal. It won't win the Pulitzer but it smacks of mythology ever so slightly. It's mass market easy reading crack that taps into the psyche of some young women (note I didn't say all).

Like I said, you may still be confused, Flashy. You don't have to understand it. It's okay if you don't. Hey, I don't get the appeal of amercian football so we're even. :tongue:

edit: I just caught Ebert's review of New Moon (panned). One star but the review is funny and worth reading.
 
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I'm hoping for a Jacob Black full size action figure thats anatomically correct.
 

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I always find it funny when guys claim not to understand why teenage girls swoon over the latest boy band/actor/fill in blank. It's the same reason some guys fawn over chicks like Megan Fox and the rest of us roll our eyes because we're unimpressed.

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well, it is actually quite a different thing...

no guys are thinking about falling in love with MEgan Fox or her character...it is simple physical lust.

with young girls, the phenomenon has been referred to as "anticipatory coping".

when girls are 11-14, they are thinking of having their first boyfriend relationship etc...which they project with these "teen idols"


teen-idols are never women...they are always men or young boys (Leif Garrett, Andy Gibb, etc.)

when guys are 11-14, they are not thinking of their first girlfriend...they are desperately searching for sexual relief.

girls mature faster than boys and project all these feelings onto those idols.

also, they are always young men or teen boys, in certain situations:
i.e. an actor in a movie(s) that is about love, relationships, devotion or a young boy or group of boys, who sing about love, relationships, devotion, etc.

teen idols are never someone like George Clooney, who was older, smarter and more mature.

boys project on *ANY* attractive girl or woman, no matter what age, and it is never about her personality or what she is acting or singing about...

it is usually pin-up models, supermodels, playmates, etc.

when was the last time you saw young screaming teenage boys at a Dakota Fanning movie premier?

it is a very different scenario entirely.

Megan Fox is merely a sexual projection to horny men...it is different with girls and teen idols...there is a heavy emotional quotient to it.

that is my opinion on it...
 

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I'm hoping for a Jacob Black full size action figure thats anatomically correct.

PM me when you find one. :biggrin1:

it is a very different scenario entirely.

Megan Fox is merely a sexual projection to horny men...it is different with girls and teen idols...there is a heavy emotional quotient to it.

So what if there's an emotional aspect? Do you really think young girls don't have sexual thoughts about men? Reality check: They do.
 

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PM me when you find one. :biggrin1:



So what if there's an emotional aspect? Do you really think young girls don't have sexual thoughts about men? Reality check: They do.

i am not suggesting they do not. but 12 year old girls are thinking about having a boyfriend/relationship much more than they are thinking about totally random sex.
 

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i am not suggesting they do not. but 12 year old girls are thinking about having a boyfriend/relationship much more than they are thinking about totally random sex.

If I get her right (and I don't claim much lucidity at the moment), Bliss isn't saying that what happens in young men mirrors what happens in young women.
You're probably right in saying that young girls want a relationship that may or may not include physical contact, and guys want a nice noise from the boom-boom stick.
But her point is simply that each sex is unintelligible in such matters to the other.
Pointing out the many aspects of difference only emphasizes how mutually unintelligible they really are.
 

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If I get her right (and I don't claim much lucidity at the moment), Bliss isn't saying that what happens in young men mirrors what happens in young women.
You're probably right in saying that young girls want a relationship that may or may not include physical contact, and guys want a nice noise from the boom-boom stick.
But her point is simply that each sex is unintelligible in such matters to the other.
Pointing out the many aspects of difference only emphasizes how mutually unintelligible they really are.

i know rubi, but let's face it, the teen idol phenomenon is not based on young women's sexual libido, so much as it is based on their somewhat sexual, but primarily fantasies about love, relationships, etc.

let's face it, when 12 year old girls go to these things, they are all screaming "marry me [insert teen idol's name]!!!!!!"

they buy teen magazines where you can learn everything about the idols, from their favorite color to their favorite food...the pictures are non-threatening and smiley...17, Tiger Beat, all that stuff is to sate young girls' burgeoning fascination with being loved or in love...sex is the secondary directive, love is the first...

guys do not want to know what kind of music Megan Fox listens to...they want to know if she can put her legs behind her head or put her whole fist in her mouth.

young girls grab tiger beat...young boys grab (or used to grab) playboy.

i do not think msbliss is able to separate the fact that while girls do indeed have sexual thoughts at a young age, the teen idol fascination is based on the want and desire for love, and an idealized man to be in love with, that they project these exxtremelyy intense emotions on.

put 12 year old girls in a room, and put 12 year old boys in the same room...the boys are acting like idiots, and the girls are standing in a circle talking and giggling.

i went to a bat mitzvah 10 years ago, first time i had been to one since i was about 18...and watching it unfold i could only think back to what i remembered that age being like...it was exactly the same.

nobody was on the dance floor, 30, 13 year old boys, were running around, with their ties now around their heads, they were throwing food into the chandeliers, kicking each other, and generally acting like 13 year old boys...

meanwhile, all the girls were standing on a circle on the dance floor talking and giggling, wishing someone would dance with them.

so, being the cool older guy now, i went over to a couple of the boys who seemed to be the most likely candidates to want to dance with the girls or do something...and i said something to the effect of "guys, go over there and dance with the girls...they are just waiting for some of you to ask them...and slow dancing with a girl is infinitely better than throwing matzoh at the chandelier"...there responses varied from "what do you know" "they are all ugly" "you are a stupid older guy" "How much will you give us?" "Leave us alone, asshole" (from the wiseass...who i proceeded to threaten with ruination in physical and emotional terms)

so after i failed miserably to encourage these idiots that it would be infinitely cooler to lay the foundation for possibly getting a little play somewhere down the line, than it was running around tables with brooks brothers ties around your head, i went over to the girls...

and i said, "aren't there some guys over there that any of you like, that you want to dance with?" and their reaction was pretty telling...rolled eyes, smirks, and a couple of "NOOOOOOOOOs" and a "they are like, total idiots"

so, being the nice guy, i danced with the bat mitzvah girl who was a friend of my family, and had a bit of a crush on me...now, there was nothing sexual in her crush on me...maybe it was very far back emotionally, but mainly it was because i made her laugh, paid attention to her, talked to her about school, movies, music...i was much older, (25) relatively cute or at least passable, but mroe important, i displayed interest, and kindness and humor to her...she loved playing with my golden retriever, and she asked me to come to her soccer game after school, since i was always giving her tips about playing soccer...so when i showed up at her game on my way home from the gym, (the field was right around the corner here in NYC) her parents thanked me for coming and said it meant so much to her, and she had been nervous that i would not show up and had been asking them if they thought i would come...

so of course when i showed, she waved to me, and was pointing at me to her friends, and bringing them over to introduce me, and of course since i knew them from when she talked about them to me, it was very easy to flatter them and say "oh, you're susan...i have heard about you!" and they would blush and giggle etc...sure enough, during the game, she was i guess playing out of her mind to try and impress me, and i would always see her looking over quickly to make sure i was watching...

anyway...the point is, young girls, while i do not doubt have more than enough sexual feelings and curiousity to go around, at that age, think absolutely about love and relationship and being cared for to a much a higher degree then the sexual feelings, which form a much smaller part.

it is far more natural that those same girls begin having crushes on older guys almost immediately once they begin thinking in relationship terms.

that is why being a freshman boy in high school is the absolute worst thing on earth.

the girls that used to like you in 7th and 8th grade, now cast you aside for juniors and seniors...junior and senior girls are looking ahead to college guys...and at the heart of it is the fact that girls are more emotionally advanced than boys at the same ages while boys are more sexually advanced (or obsessed, should i say)

IMO