Thoughts on penis englargement.

[Cherrylips]

Well I see this whole penis enlarging subject the same as the boobjob subject. In my personal opinion, I believe that men should be happy with their package because after all the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And just like breasts, they are all different sizes but people like different sizes. Someone might like small, someone else might like huge. But it's not all just about the appearance, the size of your penis is relevant to your partners sizes down there as well. There are girls out there who are much smaller and tighter down there and perhaps can't take a larger cock, so don't think of yourself as 'useless' or 'inadequate'. The average size of a womans vagina is only about 4 inches deep when aroused anyway. Plus women don't even climax purely from sexual intercourse, you have to be stimulating the clit aswell. So if you are perhaps average or below average, don't think that you can't please your partner!

I think people should just be happy with what they have and find someone who will love them for who they are not what they are packing. Different people love different things, and you never know - your partner might actually be a huge fan!

Things like surgery could cause great implications as well, you might lose some sensation. You could feel sore or get infections, it might make sex uncomfortable for you too. Using the pump and trying pills (which from what I've heard don't really work anyway) promote a very bad image to yourself. You encourage yourself to believe that you aren't good enough. And you know what? You're all good enough! I think we should be spending more time and money on achieving a more positive outlook in yourself and life instead of pumps and pills. Confidence is way more sexy than a small/big cock.

But these are my thoughts, what are your opinions on this matter? Are you for or against? :smile:

 

[lpsgnoob]

No it's not same as bob job. It's is same as hitting the gym to get a bigger bicep.

It's natural, and if you train safely you can prevent injuries, just like the gym workout.

But I will say the penis enlargement surgery is same as the bob job.

 

[FuzzyKen]

Well I see this whole penis enlarging subject the same as the boobjob subject. In my personal opinion, I believe that men should be happy with their package because after all the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And just like breasts, they are all different sizes but people like different sizes. Someone might like small, someone else might like huge. But it's not all just about the appearance, the size of your penis is relevant to your partners sizes down there as well. There are girls out there who are much smaller and tighter down there and perhaps can't take a larger cock, so don't think of yourself as 'useless' or 'inadequate'. The average size of a womans vagina is only about 4 inches deep when aroused anyway. Plus women don't even climax purely from sexual intercourse, you have to be stimulating the clit aswell. So if you are perhaps average or below average, don't think that you can't please your partner!

I think people should just be happy with what they have and find someone who will love them for who they are not what they are packing. Different people love different things, and you never know - your partner might actually be a huge fan!

Things like surgery could cause great implications as well, you might lose some sensation. You could feel sore or get infections, it might make sex uncomfortable for you too. Using the pump and trying pills (which from what I've heard don't really work anyway) promote a very bad image to yourself. You encourage yourself to believe that you aren't good enough. And you know what? You're all good enough! I think we should be spending more time and money on achieving a more positive outlook in yourself and life instead of pumps and pills. Confidence is way more sexy than a small/big cock.

But these are my thoughts, what are your opinions on this matter? Are you for or against? :smile:

Though I absolutely agree with at least a few of the principles that you discuss at least in concept, I also have seen the other side of this argument as well. There is a psychological aspect to this that is unlike any other.

Where a female receiving a breast augmentation or using other methods to enlarge her bust has many of the same problems, in many ways the size of the breasts is purely psychological and is in and of itself not a part of sexual intercourse.

Many men doing this are doing it not because they themselves feel it to be absolutely necessary, but because their sex partners have either said or implied that sensation with them is either not good or has declined.

In the female this is a common happening after childbirth, especially if over a period of a few years there are multiple children descending through that same birth canal/vaginal barrel.

Medically, this is common and a really good specialist can use a laser to take up the slack of the stretched tissues. The problem is that not all the MD's on this planet are that wise. It is also common for females as they age to "blame" the husband criticizing their lack of satisfaction and blaming the males for this problem. This leads to all kinds of complications and is not a good thing.

In all honesty I would guess that probably somewhere near 50% of the surgical procedures performed on men take place not as much for esthetics as they do because a sex partner has let it be known that a particular penis attached to a particular male is "not" doing the job.

According to what I have been told by an MD the female procedure used to tighten things up is relatively simple in comparison to the surgical efforts that have been tried on the guys.

No matter what our opinions are for the success or failure of any and all enlargement procedures nothing is going to change in that women are still going to always blame the guy and the guy is always going to feel insecure when there is nothing wrong with him.

If we could change that one factor, we would prevent a percentage of surgical disasters right there.

Because this organ is a direct part of intercourse and has contact with the partner other than for esthetic purposes I can virtually guarantee that no matter what we say this single insecurity which has been around for many centuries will continue on with or without our endorsement.

 

[redbear52]

As for women's vaginas being only 4 inches deep, that might apply to the unaroused state, but I have banged a number of women who were at least 7 inches deep because I never touched their cervix, or touched bottom at all.

And as for women not being able to orgasm with vaginal intercourse in the absence of direct clitoral stimulation, this might hold for a majority percentage-wise, but there are plenty of women who do orgasm from vaginal intercourse without direct clitoral stimulation.

Although one can find quotes on the internet claiming that anywhere from 60 to 90% of women don't climax with vaginal intercourse alone, the one that most closely corresponds to my personal experience is the following: "30% of women will never orgasm from vaginal intercourse in the absence of direct clitoral stimulation and only about 30% do so consistently". If accurate, this suggests that some 40% of women may not orgasm from vaginal intercourse alone with regularity, but may do so occasionally.

 

[DeepDish]

Cherrylips - I really appreciate the time you took to write this and I appreciate some of the sentiments behind it. Especially the notion of accepting what you have and being happy.

I am also very negative about surgeries, that is very dangerous.

On the other hand accepting what we have and being happy does not mean that we can't improve what we have. I think the going to the gym analogy of lpsgnoob is pretty good.

Manual penis enlargement if done safely can if nothing else increase a guy's erection quality. And of course the harder a penis is, the bigger it is going to be.

As to pumping - I am a pumper, in part because it is a very relaxing feeling. Sort the same kind of feeling you get from sitting in a nice relaxing hot tub. It is a way to make the stress of the day melt away. At least for me.

 

[Cherrylips]

You all have very good points I hadn't thought about before.

No it's not same as bob job. It's is same as hitting the gym to get a bigger bicep.

It's natural, and if you train safely you can prevent injuries, just like the gym workout

That is a really helpful way of thinking about it. In this case, I don't have a problem with it completely but there's still that thing that you are promoting a bad image to yourself. If you are working out your body and building muscle, that is healthier for your body. But when it comes to a cock, I am under the impression that 'masturbation' or 'sex' was the best workout.

Where a female receiving a breast augmentation or using other methods to enlarge her bust has many of the same problems, in many ways the size of the breasts is purely psychological and is in and of itself not a part of sexual intercourse.

I completely agree with you here, breasts are mostly just about the appearance because they don't have a specific role in sexual intercourse like the penis does. And I understand why men would be actually worried about that. Thank you for clarifying that!

As for women's vaginas being only 4 inches deep, that might apply to the unaroused state, but I have banged a number of women who were at least 7 inches deep because I never touched their cervix, or touched bottom at all.

I said the average woman's vagina is only 4 inches deep when aroused. It is what I have always read. But yes that varies from person to person, ofcourse, the range is a much different number.

And as for women not being able to orgasm with vaginal intercourse in the absence of direct clitoral stimulation, this might hold for a majority percentage-wise, but there are plenty of women who do orgasm from vaginal intercourse without direct clitoral stimulation.

Yes you are completely right, the majority can't but there are women who can. I guess in this case I go into a personal and moral view, I believe that sexual compatibility is the same as relationship compatibility and that if your partner doesn't really have things in common with you in bed or you aren't sexually compatible, then the best thing to do is just to move on rather than change yourself. Because if the relationship was really that great, the person wouldn't complain, but they would perhaps discuss it and try to add new strategies with sex. Again, though, I guess that is just my moral view.

As to pumping - I am a pumper, in part because it is a very relaxing feeling. Sort the same kind of feeling you get from sitting in a nice relaxing hot tub. It is a way to make the stress of the day melt away. At least for me

If that's how it is for you, then pump away my friend! I guess you are right, if it is safe and enjoyable there isn't really nothing wrong with it. After all, you should do things that makes you happy and relaxed, as long as the individual keeps in mind that there is nothing wrong down there either way and you're not going out of your way to do it.

 

[DeepDish]

That is a really helpful way of thinking about it. In this case, I don't have a problem with it completely but there's still that thing that you are promoting a bad image to yourself. If you are working out your body and building muscle, that is healthier for your body. But when it comes to a cock, I am under the impression that 'masturbation' or 'sex' was the best workout.

Let's focus exclusively on the health benefits of safe penis enlargment exercises. PE if done safely can make a man's penis healthier. Many many guys have reported the following changes:

- increase erection strength and duration
- increased penis sensitivity
- increased stamina
- increased ejaculatory control

 

[Big Al]

Let's focus exclusively on the health benefits of safe penis enlargment exercises. PE if done safely can make a man's penis healthier. Many many guys have reported the following changes:

- increase erection strength and duration
- increased penis sensitivity
- increased stamina
- increased ejaculatory control

Very good point! There's much more to male enhancement than just a larger penis- although that does seem to be the goal of many men. Other benefits include increased confidence levels and, for some, a more open mind.

It's easy to dismiss PE as an activity for vain or insecure men only, but those complaints usually come from those that are against PE (for whatever reason), don't have a clear understanding of what's involved in PE, or aren't aware of the growing community of men that do PE on a regular basis for purposes other than sheer size.

Cherrylips, it's great to see you responding with such an open mind to the responses made in this thread. If you have any other questions about PE, please feel free to post them

 

[Cherrylips]

Let's focus exclusively on the health benefits of safe penis enlargment exercises. PE if done safely can make a man's penis healthier. Many many guys have reported the following changes:

- increase erection strength and duration
- increased penis sensitivity
- increased stamina
- increased ejaculatory control

Wow, I wasn't aware of this. Thank you! I guess I always assumed that the only reason men did PE exercises were because they were insecure, but now I know there's this whole other side of it. I think it was all those ads for PE that gave me the misconception but I guess I am all for it if men do it for the health benefits.

 

[drac]

As for women's vaginas being only 4 inches deep, that might apply to the unaroused state, but I have banged a number of women who were at least 7 inches deep because I never touched their cervix, or touched bottom at all.


Come on people, please open some sort of anatomy book, the cervix has nothing to do with the bottom of the vagina. I see this all to often for this site. Educate yourself. Sorry, a woman with small fingers can touch her own cervix.

 

[Cherrylips]

Very good point! There's much more to male enhancement than just a larger penis- although that does seem to be the goal of many men. Other benefits include increased confidence levels and, for some, a more open mind.

It's easy to dismiss PE as an activity for vain or insecure men only, but those complaints usually come from those that are against PE (for whatever reason), don't have a clear understanding of what's involved in PE, or aren't aware of the growing community of men that do PE on a regular basis for purposes other than sheer size.

Cherrylips, it's great to see you responding with such an open mind to the responses made in this thread. If you have any other questions about PE, please feel free to post them

Thanks for the help!

 

[Cherrylips]

As for women's vaginas being only 4 inches deep, that might apply to the unaroused state, but I have banged a number of women who were at least 7 inches deep because I never touched their cervix, or touched bottom at all.

Come on people, please open some sort of anatomy book, the cervix has nothing to do with the bottom of the vagina. I see this all to often for this site. Educate yourself. Sorry, a woman with small fingers can touch her own cervix.

Well that is true, I have touched my own before and all the girls I know have too and have been confused by what it was lol..

 

[B_625girth]

- increase erection strength and duration
- increased penis sensitivity
- increased stamina
- increased ejaculatory control[/QUOTE]

plus if done properly, most men can gain an inch in both dimensions quite easily in about 6 months. I did and that was over 20 yrs ago. made my already large cock slightly larger. after 2 children, my wife noticed and liked my addl size, and that lead to child 3, our "love" child, totally unplanned, but totally loved.

 

[redbear52]

As for women's vaginas being only 4 inches deep, that might apply to the unaroused state, but I have banged a number of women who were at least 7 inches deep because I never touched their cervix, or touched bottom at all.


Come on people, please open some sort of anatomy book, the cervix has nothing to do with the bottom of the vagina. I see this all to often for this site. Educate yourself. Sorry, a woman with small fingers can touch her own cervix.

I'm reasonably certain that I am considerably more educated regarding human anatomy, male and female than you are.

The position of the female cervix in the vaginal canal, the angle at which it projects into the vaginal canal, and the depth of the posterior vaginal fornix varies greatly woman to woman, and varies greatly with the state of arousal in any given woman. While it is true that the cervix often lies within 2-3 inches of the vaginal introitus in an unaroused woman (average of 62.7mm in this MRI study: Baseline dimensions of the human vagina. [Hum Reprod. 2006] - PubMed result) this is not necessarily the case in the aroused female since during the female sexual response the uterus and anterior vaginal wall is drawn upward, sometimes considerably. And the depth to which the vaginal vault tents up is also variable.

In some women, the cervix projects nearly end-on into the vaginal canal, and the posterior vaginal fornix is very short, so the notion that the penis always slides past the cervix into some deep posterior vaginal cul-de-sac during intercourse after the cervix is drawn forward out of the way, is also faulty as demostrated in this MRI study: http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/faix02.pdf

 

[Big Al]

Thanks for the help!

You're welcome :smile:

 

[D_Grant Gravymaker]

im very lucky i gained 3.5 inches in length w surgery im so lucky it feels n looks incredible

 

[D_Degory Turtlehead]

How did the surgery affect your girth?

 

[drac]

I'm reasonably certain that I am considerably more educated regarding human anatomy, male and female than you are.

The position of the female cervix in the vaginal canal, the angle at which it projects into the vaginal canal, and the depth of the posterior vaginal fornix varies greatly woman to woman, and varies greatly with the state of arousal in any given woman. While it is true that the cervix often lies within 2-3 inches of the vaginal introitus in an unaroused woman (average of 62.7mm in this MRI study: Baseline dimensions of the human vagina. [Hum Reprod. 2006] - PubMed result) this is not necessarily the case in the aroused female since during the female sexual response the uterus and anterior vaginal wall is drawn upward, sometimes considerably. And the depth to which the vaginal vault tents up is also variable.

In some women, the cervix projects nearly end-on into the vaginal canal, and the posterior vaginal fornix is very short, so the notion that the penis always slides past the cervix into some deep posterior vaginal cul-de-sac during intercourse after the cervix is drawn forward out of the way, is also faulty as demostrated in this MRI study: http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/faix02.pdf

Riiiiight, ok scholar, whatever, you heard what cherrylips said, i am not talking about the tenting and the ability of the vagina expanding, if you stick your finger in there you will touch it, i don't need the study, I AM THE STUDY! Stick your finger in there next time and do your own study.

 

[D_Hammond Happydipper]

I think people should just be happy with what they have and find someone who will love them for who they are not what they are packing. Different people love different things, and you never know - your partner might actually be a huge fan!

yes i am happy with my size now only if i had good erection Quality

 

[D_Manny_Petty]

As a avid PE'er for the past three years or so, I thank you for your opinion. I see boob jobs, working out in the gym, running miles upon miles to shape up your body & penis enlargement as just ways to make yourself happier. If people should be so happy for who they are and what they look like, then why do women wear makeup? Why do men put hair gel in their hair? Its all the same difference really. Some guys like the fact that they can make their dicks larger & thicker NATURALLY. Some girls like the fact that they can make their breast bigger. Some women think they look better with makeup so they wear lip stick & eyeliner to stand out.

Its 2010, there are so many people in this world that no matter what you do to your body or not do, someone out there will find you sexy lol. I have been doing penis enlargement for roughly three years. It started out with basic stretches, jelqing, and kegals. Now I pump every once and a while and still doing the stretching, jelqing & kegals. I like the fact that I can make my penis gradually grow larger and larger over years of training. PEing is not for everyone, just like boob jobs aren't for everyone. Cheers!:biggrin1: