Not exactly, the tiger was in the process of attacking a second kid that was still alive when the police arrived to distract it.
How does that follow? A subjective or objective morality could believe the tiger should have been killed or not killed.
The problem with some people's objective morality is it leads to believing that we shouldn't hurt any animals for any reason. Then you could take it to the extreme and say we shouldn't hurt plants or even bacteria. If it's objective, then it should follow some set of (hopefully simple) rules that say exactly what rights various living things have. And you'd still have to convince me why that system of morals was better than any other. And therein lies the dilemma, not every party agrees with your "objective" morals.
don't they? Plenty of people will pay to wander round a zoo and keep the kids / themselves entertained for a few hours but a smaller percentage of those people would put even a fraction of the money they'd spend on an outing to the city zoo (if any acually) into wildlife refuges. There are a lot of zoos around the world that have excellent breeding programs and do do a lot of good work in animal preservation. It's a balance thing - the hoi polloi (myself included) get to wander round and ooo and aaah and the zoos get the cash to do, hopefully, good things. Well that's how it works in the European zoos I've been to. I can't imagine things are that different in the States, are they?
I agree completely with the first two paragraphs - well said.
As for third - well - yes, in an ideal world. But most folk want a bang for their buck(o)
This shows how emotionally involved 36DD is in the subject matter
seems we see a cause and effect argument here
this is 36DD agreeing there is cause and effect
this statement is about people rejecting responsibility to suit their own agendaI agree with you but this is America and people/relatives never want to accept blame for their own/relatives' actions. It's so much easier to blame someone else
expectation is expressed here.. we know it is a dangerous animal... treat it with respect or there are consequences
This is a wrong conclusion what we are seeing in peoples arguments is an emotional disappointment that again an endangered animal was killed because people think they have a right to act anyway they want without consequence
What is this about? Responsible parenting! 36DD brought her children up to take responsibility for their actions... if the parents of the injured/killed parties had done the same she suspects this whole affair would not have happened, and again she sees this affair as a sign of the times where people seem to think it is ok for anybody to do anything they want... but as we see that can end in tragedy... Why don't she want these people breeding? because of the hurt their type of parenting causes
What is she saying here? That she suspects that the kids understood their actions far more than most people here will acknowledge.
well if the kids had been brought up correctly this would again probably have never happened
This is where you really start to show what an idiot you are.. nobody wants anybody to pay a price of death for making a mistake, but there are consequences for certain actions.. we cannot do anything we want and expect to get away with it.
See read this post.. 36DD does not want anybody to die! She wanted the tiger to be tranquilized in these circumstances if possible. Her point is that because it is a wild animal it is automatically destroyed even though it was made to act in such a way by people thinking it is ok to do anything and not take responsibility
I don't agree.. the kid did wrong and why the kid acted like he did should be examined.. again you are supporting any action a person does to support your arguments. There is cause and effect and from what I understand this kid was 17, in the UK you can drive you can be a parent legally at that age so if you are going to make the kids age as an excuse... sorry I say that is bullshit
sense at last, someone else who thinks that people should learn to be responsible and told that their lack of interest in bringing their child up has caused their misery
So you are saying responsibility lies solely with the zoo and that responsible parenting is nothing to do with how people act?
mem when 36DD said this it was because you have a history of reading her posts and in that you should really realize that she would never wish anyone to die least of all a child... you obviously just wanted to come out with a controversial statement to try and win some bullshit argument you are having in your head.. wake up
See mem... how emphatic is that statement.. so when you think she wanted the kid to die.... you are so wrong.
That is such a bullshit statement again... 36DD never said that she would trade the lives of her children for that of tigers... The original point was if the parents had taught their kids responsibility this whole sorry affair would not have happened in the first place.. to me the kids parents are the bastards here, they are the ones who have let their kids do anything they want and now it has come back to haunt them. Plus you are implying in your argument that at some point 36DD thought tigers were more important than her children.. mem you are messed up in the head
See this is what your lack of care has done it has pissed someone off to the point they shout at you... you never really asked 36DD about her relationship to kids dying, you just accused her of having some hidden agenda to win an argument.
What are you on about.. do you think that because someone gets pissed off that some how they are automatically wrong? again here you go drawing a line and assuming someone.. if the tiger has already killed someone, shooting the tiger will not bring them back.. and using 36DDs kids as a means of trying to highlight how right you think you are is a big mistake.The clue I find is that I hit a raw nerve.
You have a right to your view which I am guessing is that if your child was killed by a Tiger you would not want it put down. And if you had to choose between the two the Tiger would win.
:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1: Good one but the world is overpopulated with humans and unfortunately the tigers are in danger of extinction. All life in this planet is very worthy and even more the endangered species. Many people see tiger and other predators as bad violent creatures but they forget that humans are predators too , most humans eat animals .
Hopefully you will never face the day when a loved one of yours has a lapse of judgement and does something know they should not do. For example, you have a close friend who throws a rock at a passing car, the driver gets out and pulverizes your friend beyond recognition.
