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lolol... Now I know why aluminum prices went up today... The wingnuts are running through the world's supply of tin foil in a hurry these days!

You should study history. Ever heard of Machiavelli, Troggy?

Jeering to look good in front of your mates - that's what a lot of guys do on the US Politics thread isn't it?

Someone looks like they might piss in your sandpit & you get all hot & grumpy.

FFS it's like watching a football match. There are a range of opinions; you don't have to take sides.

Staggering intellectual conceit from a country whose population can't even find the places it invades on a map.

I'll leave you guys to keep throwing stones at each other, whilst never really comprehending what the others have said.
 

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According to some people all Muslims are terrorists and I find that sad. Honestly and excuse my language beforehand it seems like Muslim is the new "nigger" in this day and age. Plain ignorance and spinning things based on ignorance. SMH.
 

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According to some people all Muslims are terrorists and I find that sad. Honestly and excuse my language beforehand it seems like Muslim is the new "nigger" in this day and age. Plain ignorance and spinning things based on ignorance. SMH.

To many, "Muslim" is just one of the many placeholders.
We all know that the overall majority of Conservatives don't have the guts to come out and say it themselves. They know it's political suicide to engage in such talk on a public forum, which is why they pander to the extreme right who will do the dirty work for them. But as soon as they do, they back down and act as if they have nothing to do with it. That is, until the next time they need to point out that our beloved Socialist/Fascist/Nazi/Teleprompter Reading Muslim from Kenya doesn't look, think or act like them.

Such a clever game of fear mongering & manipulation, isn't it? At least they think it's clever...
 

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To many, "Muslim" is just one of the many placeholders.
We all know that the overall majority of Conservatives don't have the guts to come out and say it themselves. They know it's political suicide to engage in such talk on a public forum, which is why they pander to the extreme right who will do the dirty work for them. But as soon as they do, they back down and act as if they have nothing to do with it. That is, until the next time they need to point out that our beloved Socialist/Fascist/Nazi/Teleprompter Reading Muslim from Kenya doesn't look, think or act like them.

Such a clever game of fear mongering & manipulation, isn't it? At least they think it's clever...

But the thing is the people who actually know about the faith. Have friends who are Muslim. People who actually read this stuff with objectivity they'll see right through this ruse. But the thing is there are even more idiots who let their ignorance and fear control them.

Really the most dangerous thing in this world isn't some poitician, homocidal maniac, terrorist, natural disaster, or weapon of mass destruction.

It's ignorance. Ignorance make other things 10 times more dangerous because you act on belief, fear, and what other people may tell you. Instead of the real truth. Not what you believe is the truth. Actually opening your mind and finding it out.
 

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the really tragic thing about being "black" is the lack of perspective; everything is seen in terms of the ideology of victimhood

'tis a pity, and tragic for both their personal lives, and for the impact it has on the nation to the extent they have any influence on policy
 

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the really tragic thing about being "Nick4444" is the lack of perspective; everything is seen in terms of the ideology of being intellectually challenged.

'tis a pity, and tragic for both his personal life, and for the impact it has on lpsg to the extent he any influence on the board

Fixed that for you. :wink:
 

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the really tragic thing about being "black" is the lack of perspective; everything is seen in terms of the ideology of victimhood

'tis a pity, and tragic for both their personal lives, and for the impact it has on the nation to the extent they have any influence on policy

Grrrrrrrrrr....
There isn't a black person on this planet that wants your damn pity.

You honestly believe that a person born in a poor area has the same, exact opportunities as the person born in a richer neighborhood. Even though one has to work much harder than the other to get access to a quality education, jobs, medical care, housing and other necessities essential to life, because of your continued bouts of ignorance you would associate that to being equal. I'd ask you how ignorant are you. but that's a fruitless question... your stupidity knows no limits.

How many times do you have to associate another person's truth and their struggles as some form of victimization before you start to get it? A bigot like you just refuse to come to grips that beyond the blinding ideology of human equality that you have no clue or interest as to how other people live. The only reason that affect policy in this country is because the people and politicians you support are just as ignorant as you. They only care about protecting their money more than anything else, and rely on people to forget that they actually have more in common with the person standing next to them, and look at the flashy man in a 3-piece suit with envious eyes and a yearning to be what they are. It's almost like watching a bunch of wanna be gangster rappers who can't rhyme or a used car salesman selling a Bentley that has been rigged with the engine of a go-kart.

I guess the time off didn't help you after all. You're back in full effect, and still stupid as ever. Now go ahead and blame all of this and the rest of your problems on "lib mentality" like you always do. That's what a bigoted victim tends to do when they fear that brownie is trying to take away your freedom. :rolleyes:
 
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VB....black populations in America do not settle for being victims?

Black leadership does snot use the preaching of victimhood to their followers?

It is a culture of victimhood.

If I were black......don't give me ML King. Give me Malcolm X.

Oh we could do a whole thread on this topic....
 

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the really tragic thing about being "a self-loathing queen" is the lack of self respect; everything is seen in terms of the ideology of money over personal liberties

'tis a pity, and tragic for both their personal lives, and for the impact it has on the nation to the extent they have any influence on fashion

Fixed it again for you.
 

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VB....black populations in America do not settle for being victims?

Black leadership does snot use the preaching of victimhood to their followers?

It is a culture of victimhood.

Bullshit. Telling the truth about one's surroundings is not an element of victimhood. When you can live in your own city/town, see that there's a lack of jobs, housing, medical care and a sharp rise in crime compared to other areas, the last thing someone needs to deal with is a person who enters life with ideological blinders on full blast who preach morals with absolutely no physical substance. The only thing that makes us equal is the fact that we're all human. That's the damn reality that you toss aside because you never had to experience life from someone else's viewpoint. I barely make a working man's salary, and need two full time jobs to live the life I currently enjoy. But am I asking YOU to help me? Hell no. Do you see me begging you for change and a handout? Fuck that shit. That goes for everyone else in the 'hood as well. Nobody wants what the hell you got.

Most struggling people just want a decent job, in a nice neighborhood where they can take care of their own without a lot of excess strife. They don't want YOUR house, or YOUR money or YOUR guns or YOUR freedom. :rolleyes:

People just want their government to do their job and aid those who need it. The same way you want government to protect your right to make and keep money. People in poor areas pay their taxes too... everyday. They deserve to have their voices heard and concerns addressed just like yours. However, if you feel that people talking about how they wish their neighborhoods had better schools, jobs, affordable housing and medical care services is "playing the victim", then begging for government to tax them less and to do away with government programs that seek out to level the playing field in an obviously slanted society also qualifies.

One of these days, kid... you'll learn not to throw these mindless, rhetorical statements at me. I'll tear them apart and expose you for the closed minded & selfish individual you really are. My track record for doing this around here is REALLY good. You may want to do the research.


If I were black......don't give me ML King. Give me Malcolm X.

And you're not black... so step back and listen to one for a change. You have absolutely no clue as to what a black man experiences in this world. You preach this ideology about Malcolm X, not even knowing that he preached an ideology so strong and vigilant that it struck primal fear into the hearts and minds of white people... even more than what the Tea Baggers think they're experiencing now.

We have "Tom" from the Boondocks in the White House... not "Huey Freeman". Consider yourself lucky that Obama isn't that kind of black man. YOU wouldn't be able to take it. However, you would be able to say that he wasn't a Christian but I digress... :rolleyes:

Oh we could do a whole thread on this topic....

Trust me... you wouldn't last a moment if you did.
I'm a pro at this. I grew up in the poor part of town and went to school, worked and lived the other half in the richer suburbs. After more than 30 years of it, you don't know this like I do. You're too busy trying to write off everything like it's some kind of political struggle between the Hatfields & the McCoys, when in reality it's all about greedy, paranoid people worried that someone wants to reach into their pockets. Some rich cat in politics have duped you into believing that you have more in common with them, than the black man standing next to you in a subway car going to work each day. Seriously, how simple minded can you be?
 
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You know...VB.... You're almost there but a little off.

Malcolm was a better leader for blacks than was MLK. I know what he preached.

Liberals seem to repeat that same sentiment you stated about normal folk having more in common with the poor black guy next to them than they do they rich guy. I get where that comes from and you are to a large degree correct. However, your solutions bring you to gov't to fix it all for you. I think that is a faulty solution.

Confuscious say....the tiger more danger to the man than the gov't.

True then. True now.

Balance my dear dedicated friend. Balance. You opinions and solutions lack it greatly.

You still have time to grow out of your social anger and childish notions about gov't being here to help you in the most benign of motherly ways.

btw...I grew up poor. State food, getting dressed next to a stove because the heat didn't work, rat infested triple deckah in a racially mixed neighborhood in Boston. Don't bring that - I was poor - crap to me. I know it well. I know the stories of good, bad and regular people in the city. I know the stories of people who worked to get themselves out, people who failed and people who didn't try. It is the culmination of those experience and the history we all know that bring s me to my view points.

Gov't is good and bad. Business is good and bad. We need both. We need balance. Business would rape me. Gov't would rape me. Balance my friend.

Social dynamics being what they are.....give me a magic potion that makes the world a peaceful, loving place, then give me 5 years and there will be strife, unjust treatment and war. Ignoring that is ignoring human nature.

Now....craft policies that account for social dynamics, balance between gov't and business and you have a chance at a decent country. Then....stay vigilant because imbalance and social dynamics being what they are they will try to upset the perverbial applecart.

Good luck, son.
 

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You should study history. Ever heard of Machiavelli, Troggy?

Jeering to look good in front of your mates - that's what a lot of guys do on the US Politics thread isn't it?

Someone looks like they might piss in your sandpit & you get all hot & grumpy.

FFS it's like watching a football match. There are a range of opinions; you don't have to take sides.

Staggering intellectual conceit from a country whose population can't even find the places it invades on a map.

I'll leave you guys to keep throwing stones at each other, whilst never really comprehending what the others have said.

Hey, thanks for almost saying something worth responding to. lololol
 

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Hey, thanks for almost saying something worth responding to. lololol

Tall,

the problem I have with you is it almost seems like you have something worth adding to the conversation and could maybe do so on a regular basis but you stoop to low brow humor, name calling, insults and in general being obnoxious.

You are wasted talent.
 

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You know...VB.... You're almost there but a little off.

Almost like what? Like you?
Trust me, I'm NOTHING like you.

Malcolm was a better leader for blacks than was MLK. I know what he preached.

I disagree.
Both men were necessary because they both brought a different perspective to the same struggle. MLK preached the importance of using civility to achieve civil equality, whereas Malcolm X illustrated that sometimes you have to do more than just smile in someone's face and assimilate in order to get it. One leader couldn't survive without the other.


YAWN!!!
Stop right here... if I can make a response that doesn't use the word liberal or conservative, then so can you. Or can you? The bullshit has to stop somewhere. :rolleyes:

...seem to repeat that same sentiment you stated about normal folk having more in common with the poor black guy next to them than they do they rich guy. I get where that comes from and you are to a large degree correct. However, your solutions bring you to gov't to fix it all for you.

Did I ever say that the government was there to fix everything for them? The answer is no. Even if Government did everything in their power to make every city or town have the same quality of life, people would still have to work hard to get what they want. However, when some first graders have to travel 2 hours out of their way to get an education someone else could get after a five minute walk from their doorstep, the last thing YOU should be talking about is how someone wants government to fix everything. We can start by making sure our public school systems adhere to a set standard in education quality so that children get access to the same learning materials and curriculum. Then, there's an issue regarding neighborhood safety because why should one kid have to worry about getting mugged or shot when trying to go to school while the other doesn't?

And so forth, and so forth...

Confuscious say....the tiger more danger to the man than the gov't.

It's Confucius, Einstein. :rolleyes:

You still have time to grow out of your social anger and childish notions about gov't being here to help you in the most benign of motherly ways.

Seriously, is this the best that you can do? :rolleyes:
This isn't anger coming from me. The truth is going to be raw and ugly sometimes. I'm so sorry if this dose of reality is difficult for you to handle.

btw...I grew up poor. State food, getting dressed next to a stove because the heat didn't work, rat infested triple deckah in a racially mixed neighborhood in Boston.

What part?
I was born in Dorchester, raised through childhood in Mattapan, spent my high school years in Roxbury right off the street that had the old EL and went to school in Braintree since the age of six. Did college in Salem while living in the Fenway before finally moving to New Jersey in '98 and eventually to New York City.

Don't bring that - I was poor - crap to me. I know it well. I know the stories of good, bad and regular people in the city. I know the stories of people who worked to get themselves out, people who failed and people who didn't try. It is the culmination of those experience and the history we all know that bring s me to my view points

You might know it, but you obviously didn't learn a thing from it. You somehow found a way out, and forgot where you came from. I still have friends and family caught in the struggle. They STILL live there and work harder in one week than you could ever fathom in a month. Out of love for my people, I provide a voice for their concerns. Unlike you, I don't forget.

Gov't is good and bad. Business is good and bad. We need both. We need balance. Business would rape me. Gov't would rape me. Balance my friend.

That's your sentiments. Don't try to put that confusion on me, dude.

Social dynamics being what they are.....give me a magic potion that makes the world a peaceful, loving place, then give me 5 years and there will be strife, unjust treatment and war. Ignoring that is ignoring human nature.

There goes more of that ideological nonsense that you're now trying to twist into some kind of moral lob bomb in hopes that it has any kind of relevance. Nobody is looking for a magic wand or a potion to make everything better.

Now....craft policies that account for social dynamics, balance between gov't and business and you have a chance at a decent country.

Nice ideology. Too bad the politics you support try to do away with such policies. Or do you still think something like Affirmative Action isn't necessary even though the amount of women and minorities in good paying jobs is pale in comparison to other social demographics?

Good luck, son.

I would say the same to you, but I can already tell that you failed. :rolleyes:
 
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You should study history. Ever heard of Machiavelli, Troggy?

Jeering to look good in front of your mates - that's what a lot of guys do on the US Politics thread isn't it?

Someone looks like they might piss in your sandpit & you get all hot & grumpy.

FFS it's like watching a football match. There are a range of opinions; you don't have to take sides.

Staggering intellectual conceit from a country whose population can't even find the places it invades on a map.

I'll leave you guys to keep throwing stones at each other, whilst never really comprehending what the others have said.

Hey, hows about you and me have a geography contest. I can kick your behind.
 

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^haha... I didn't have the heart to tell him that I've likely forgotten more about US history than he has ever known... I actually found out recently that if I wanted, I could go take the tests and be certified to be a secondary school (high school) history teacher in the state I live in. (because I have a bachelors degree and have also taken more than 30 credit hours worth of certain history and psychology courses)
 

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I stated 40yo white because...we all know you would paint him that way.

We are all very glad it didn't hurt anyone... My suggestion that the left would have had a field day with another Tim McVeigh loon and even secretly hoped for it. It would have been something they could use in trying to turn the tide they see coming in November.

Thanks for confirming the existence of loony white supremacists in the Tea Party by posting your crazy racial delusions here for all the world to see. You've sank your own Tea Party ship.
 

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This is such a boring topic. I go away for a few days and hear the same old arguments in a different story.

Contom, instead of just crying to your keyboard go out and fucking do something. See how long you last peddling your old ignorant beliefs.