Timothée chalamet

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People make fun of Wonka but I think it's such a smart choice for him.He's gonna crush the role
I hope he does. Everyone seems to be hoping he'll be a disaster... so I hope he can nail it! :joy:
 
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I see you're like this in every post. Does leading with an all caps lol make you feel like an alpha or something? Like you're saying something profound instead of being a gigantic misanthrope?
Projecting much? He was not the main reason people went to see Dune (or The French Dispatch), suggesting otherwise is ridiculous, those were both ensemble films. He has no record of being a major draw, much less "one of the biggest" as you claimed. And it was especially silly to say just as Bones and All flops at the box office.
 

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Projecting much? He was not the main reason people went to see Dune (or The French Dispatch), suggesting otherwise is ridiculous, those were both ensemble films. He has no record of being a major draw, much less "one of the biggest" as you claimed.
Let's be clear on this lol: Are you seriously claiming Timothee Chalamet is not an A-List star and one of (if not the) go-to young male actor(s) under 30 in Hollywood atm?

Because you can argue that he was not the draw for Dune (which is wrong, he and Zendaya were for the general non-scifi geek audience because Dune itself is not a draw), or for an ensemble Wes Anderson movie like The French Dispatch, but did he get butts in seats for both those films? Oh yeah.

Chalamet not wanting to do Uncharted or Red Notice or a MCU property or whatever has not stopped him from being a major star. Doing smaller or arthouse films hasn't stopped him either.
 
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Let's be clear on this lol: Are you seriously claiming Timothee Chalamet is not an A-List star and one of (if not the) go-to young male actor(s) under 30 in Hollywood atm?
Did I say that? No. What I actually said is that there is no record of him being a major draw. The fact you then had to move the goalposts just suggests you can't dispute that.
 

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Did I say that? No. What I actually said is that there is no record of him being a major draw. The fact you then had to move the goalposts just suggests you can't dispute that.
Goalposts? :p My man you are the one trying to wriggle out of this. Speak plainly: If he is not a major draw, then is Chalamet or is he not a top male A-List star in Hollywood? And are A-List stars generally box office draws or box office poison? If he was in nothing but flops, if he was not a draw, if he was not highly regarded, would he still be A-List?

And if Timothee Chalamet is not the young male A-List star of the moment, who is? Who is getting more awards bait movies and more headlines in his age range and his gender? I'll wait.
 
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Goalposts? :p My man you are the one trying to wriggle out of this. Speak plainly: If he is not a major draw, then is Chalamet or is he not a top male A-List star in Hollywood? And are A-List stars generally box office draws or box office poison? If he was in nothing but flops, if he was not a draw, if he was not highly regarded, would he still be A-List?

And if Timothee Chalamet is not the young male A-List star of the moment, who is? Who is getting more awards bait movies and more headlines in his age range and his gender? I'll wait.
A-list can mean anything, and different things to different people. However, whether he is a draw or not is just factual - and he has no record of being one. That's simply a fact.

And once again, you're moving the goalposts, even as you deny doing it - you're now trying to change the argument from whether he is a big draw to awards buzz and headlines. Meanwhile my entire argument from the start has been he has no record of being a major draw at the box office. My argument has no changed a fraction.
 

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A list can mean anything, and different things to different people. However, whether he is a draw or not is just factual - and he has no record of being one. That's simply a fact.
It's simple: Is Timothee Chalamet the top young male star in Hollywood in his age range right now? Yes or no? Easy question. And if not, who is?

And if he is: Why? Why would he be the top young male star in Hollywood if he has no proven track record of being a draw for audiences? Why is he in demand for every top director and major film in Hollywood? Does that happen for actors who are not a draw? Is there a difference? This is a honest question.

This isn't one, though: Is it not that deep, and did you just come in here to troll people bc you look at box office receipts for arthouse movies about cannibals and nothing else and didn't think it through? The service exit is that way.
 
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It's simple: Is Timothee Chalamet the top young male star in Hollywood in his age range right now? Yes or no? Easy question. And if not, who is?

And if he is: Why? Why would he be the top young male star in Hollywood if he has no proven track record of being a draw for audiences? Why is he in demand for every top director and major film in Hollywood? Does that happen for actors who are not a draw? Is there a difference? This is a honest question.

This isn't one, though: Is it not that deep, and did you just come in here to troll people bc you look at box office receipts for arthouse movies about cannibals and nothing else and didn't think it through? The service exit is that way.
No, the actual question is whether or not he's a major draw - in fact the original comment was one of the biggest draws in the world. If he was, you or the person who made that claim could've posted box office data to prove it by now. Instead you keep dressing up distractions as counter-arguments and moving goalposts by blathering about a-lists and awards buzz.

And how is stating the truth trolling? I like him, I find him attractive. But I'm not going to pretend he's some kind of massive draw when he isn't. And the most ridiculous thing is you know he isn't either, because otherwise you would've actually presented some fact as counter-argument.
 

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No, the actual question is whether or not he's a major draw - in fact the original comment was one of the biggest draws in the world. If he was, you or the person who made that claim could've posted box office data to prove it by now. Instead you keep dressing up distractions as counter-arguments and moving goalposts by blathering about a-lists and awards buzz.

And how is stating the truth trolling? I like him, I find him attractive. But I'm not going to pretend he's some kind of massive draw when he isn't. And the most ridiculous thing is you know he isn't either, because otherwise you would've actually presented some fact as counter-argument.
Was Dune a hit? No? Were CMBYN and Little Women major critical successes and awards darlings? No?

Let's not pretend this is the '90s. The movie business is not what it was thanks to COVID and streaming. Very little out there is making gigantic money if it is not Marvel or an existing IP. So why is Chalamet a star? Why is he starring in Wonka, a major tentpole film that will make megabucks, as the lead character? Why would they put him in that movie if he was not considered a draw, or have him lead a gigantic multi-movie production like Dune (where, yes, sorry, the young stars were the main draw for a general audience that does not give two fucks about Dune) if he was not considered a draw? Just answer one of those questions and I'm good. So far you have run from any question I have posed.

You find Chalamet attractive but are annoyed at people being complimentary of him so you want to bring them down to earth because you think you are providing them with the brutal truth. That's cute. Wrong, but cute. But you did it by replying to a silly suggestion that he should go be on The White Lotus, a TV show he is too big a celebrity for, by laughing at the idea that he was. And then you got yourself in a hole. It happens.
 

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How do you mute a thread so you only get notifications when pics are uploaded?

Unfortunately, there's not one. I wish there was one, because a lot of threads have too much of annoyed posts with non-sense debates (if u wanna to consider them as such as debates lol)... Should had a way to choose only pics and videos.