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OK, I've had a fucked up day, and this thread is really testing my BS limits but good.

From what I've inferred here, "tina" is known as crystal meth, right?
And you claim this made your dick bigger but not necessarily harder?It sounds to me like you've just gotten a side effect of using it, IE possible ED, or very quite possibly the 1st stages of loss of sexual drive.

And bigger? More than likely, you're seeing things from using this shit.

you ought to stop using it before you lose your sex drive all together.
 
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Let me tell you a little story.

I had a friend named Brent. He was one of those rare individuals with the gift of extreme intellect. A computer geek since well before computers became household items, Brent was sought out by major corporations to create solutions to their programming problems and made quite a lot of money in the process. Brent, like myself, abhorred crystal meth and the men who use it. But one day Brent met a man who was a meth user / addict, and fell in love with him during one of this guy's more sober periods. When Guy started using again, Brent tried to help steer him toward sobriety. His best efforts weren't helping, and so Brent felt the need to do something more drastic.

In order to understand the mindset of the tweaker, Brent started using meth. He'd never been addicted to any drug (including nicotine or alcohol) and he felt certain he could walk away from meth as he had done with other drugs in the past. But Brent was wrong, and in his effort to help Guy, became an addict himself. Then Guy died, and Brent tried to quit. Up til then he had snorted crystal and smoked it. And he found out that he was no match for Tina. Eventually, though he would be sober for a week or two at a time, he began slamming it (shooting up).

Brent's relationship with the real world ended there, as did the life of the Brent I came to know. He became delusional, seeing aliens peeking in his 2nd story windows at night, hearing conversations in restaurants and being convinced he was planting the conversations in the other patrons' heads (and freaking out over it), becoming horribly paranoid and believing mysterious people were out to get him. He drove out to the desert once to videotape the aliens. He brought back content that showed a dark sky and a lot of low level light distortion, but you couldn't convince him that it wasn't proof that aliens were indeed out in the sky (and on this tape).

He was unable to hold a job anymore. He holed up into his house and had most of the utilities cut off, only going out occasionally to use the neighbor's phone if they'd let him. He cut himself off from almost all of his friends. And then one day he reappeared. Brent sent out a mass email to his friends saying he was selling his house to buy a motor home so he could travel the country. Shortly thereafter his email account was cut off. And several months later this man, who once was sought out as a programming genius was found dead in his RV of an apparent cardiac arrest. He never left LA.

Crystal sucks the life out of the people who use it. It causes hallucinations. It is frightfully addictive. It causes severe malnutrition and body wasting. It causes hair loss. It causes tooth decay. It causes ruptures in the skin as the body tries in vain to eliminate the toxins. People who use it are 4-6 times more likelt to acquire HIV than those who don't. Brent suffered all these side effects, and is now dead because of it.

Is it worth using just so you can have the delusion your penis is bigger? I should hope not.
 

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i read it's hard to get an erection with meth, so some gay guys get together and do meth and cialis or viagra together. i also heard it makes you want to do the dirtiest, nastiest, unsafest sex you can. sounds scary.
 

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i know from firsthand experience, BarebackJack said it all.
sadly that sort of thing doesnt mean anything unless youre ready to hear it.
the only reason im not dead or insane right now is that im a big pussy whos terribly afraid of such things... i guess i must have a fairly decent grip on reality as well.. when i started hearing people say things that i knew they wouldnt be saying.. and believing things that couldnt possibly be true.. that was the end of it.. almost. least its over now.. for over a year.. and ive noticed changes because of it.. none of them good... im way more stoic now.. like.. someone will tell a joke.. and where i would have laughed out loud before... now i just cant.. hardly anything is truely funny anymore.

blah.
 
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Tina won't make your dick bigger. It will cause you to get sucked up enough in one run to make you think so but the drug induced weight loss is fleeting. The price of the eventual mind blowing orgasm is your Seratonin being drained dry after doing this regularly.. It can return to normal levels in a few years. This means the inability to feel pleasure...the reason it takes more Tina and nastier sex to get off. Even many straight guys end up sticking gigantic objects in themselves in pursuit of the ever more illusive orgasm. The mindless drug driven taffy pull seems endless.I experimented a few times and thought it was no big deal. In less than year I lost my home and car. In another few months my sanity. There is much more to my story. My dealer cut his shit with heroin and never told us. When I finally came down for the last time...I had to kick heroin too. I got clean in the mid nineties after it ruined my life...and for the first couple of years was incapable of feeling pleasure or any train of thought longer than a few seconds. I'm one of the lucky ones. I've lost many friends to this drug. I know this all sounds heavy but I was once where you are. Don't listen to your friends. Take it from a recovered addict and former Substance Abuse Counselor. This shit is a nightmare and won't make your dick any bigger.
 

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I applaud your recovery with gusto, Sorcerer! Bravo! And bravo as well to notsmallmatt!

For Bijo's benefit, and to reinforce both of your statements, here are a few more considerations:

Approximately 97% of those addicted never completely recover and become repeatedly re-addicted.

It is usually easier to quit smoking than to quit meth.

The false sense of invincibility is a common effect of using crystal. It is this false sense that often leads to behaviors that result in HIV and Hepatitis infections.

Because of the side effect called "crystal dick", it is not uncommon for men who are normally tops to switch to bottoming, and thereby put themselves at greater risk for becoming infected with any number of sexually transmitted diseases, including the incurable ones.

The user almost always believes he is stronger than the drug, and that he is also immune to these negative effects and after-effects.

The loss of sensitivity to humor and the inability to form lasting relationships after quitting the drug are extremely common after-effects. The user becomes emotionally flat.

The losses of one's job, home, car, immediate family, friends, health, and worldly possessions are extremely common end-results of crystal addiction.

The stuff meth is made of consists of chemicals you wouldn't put in your body under any other circumstances. Cooking them down alters, but does not take away, their toxicity.

Addiction is too easy just from snorting crystal. When you advance to smoking meth you should know you're in too deep... but chances are you won't care. I'd say advancing to slamming (injecting with a needle) or doing butt rockets (injecting liquified crystal into your anus with a plastic syringe) is a sure sign you're extremely addicted. Recovery becomes harder with each of these stages.

Has any of this hit home, Bijo?

Personally speaking, I would much rather be jerking a rock hard cock than a perpetually limp one? Where's the fun in that?
 
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Oops... 2 more items to consider:

Crystal users are statistically less likely to get tested for HIV and Hepatitis C, and just as unlikely to be honest about their status with their partners.

I haven't seen any data on this yet, but it seems quite likely that straight men who PNP (party and play... code lingo for use meth and have sex) and then explore gay sex with other "partiers" will not only run a much higher risk of becoming infected with HIV, but will in turn pass the virus on to their spouses or girlfriends whether they know they have it or not.

Really, Bijo, quit it now. Wak away from it and the people you know who use it. That would be the absolute best thing you could do for yourself at this stage of the game.

BBJ
 
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YES. In the past 2 years (since the inception of my bi-monthly party and porn fest) I have grown just under 3 inches. The first 6 months or so my penis was VERY sore after the celebrations... It eventually got more accustomed to the 18-30 hours of (nearly) non-stop masturbation, edging, pulling, tugging, and kegels, and that is when the growth really started to take place. I used to be a grower, and now I hang about 8" soft on a cold day after working out.

To the comment that there would be tons of 15" addicts running around, I say this: the majority of the tweakers (all but 2, in fact) I have met and seen their endowments have been over 7". And trust me, speed makes everyone ok with whipping it out.

As for my method of choice for "hanging out with Tina"... I would say smoking (though arguably more addictive than insufflation or ingestion) is the "safest" way to partake.... It allows you a lee-way with evaporating off any residual solvents and you can burn or evaporate away most common "cuts" (MSM or methylsulfonyl-methane, rock salt, epsoms, and sugar), as well as recrystalizing what you bought to purify (yes, crystalization is one of the preferred methods of purification, second only to a solvent column).

(Yeah, I know some chemistry too)

Have a nice "day".
 

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DC_DEEP said:
Time for the chemist to put in $0.03 worth...

Tina is methamphetamine hydrochloride. Also known as crystal (more on that later). In the drug circles, crystal methamphetamine became know as "cris", then "christina,", then shortened to "tina" so that only those who understood the code would know what they were talking about.

Methamphetamine is still a pharmaceutical drug. If you have it prescribed by a doctor, and get it from a pharmacist, that's one thing. The street drug is a different story entirely. Even if you got well-manufactured, well-refined meth, long-term use is really hell on your body. The stuff you get from a friend of a friend of a friend has no quality controls. You don't have a clue exactly what they have put in it.

Almost all drugs are made with some pretty nasty chemicals, but the manufacturing and refining processes ensure that they are (at least moderately) safe to take. With the law cracking down on illicit manufacturers, these "basement factories" use substitute chemicals and shortcut processes. If they are lax about extraction procedures, or don't completely dry a product before the next step, or whatever reason, you can end up with traces in there that you really really do not want to put into your body. Add to that the fact that most street drugs are "cut", or diluted, and the dangers are compounded. Dealers really don't care what they use to cut drugs. For those who don't know, cutting involves taking (for instance) 100 grams of a drug, keeping a little (5 or 10 grams or so) for himself, and making up the difference by adding something else to make up the difference before selling it as 100 grams. (Like a bartender who waters down the liquor to make more profit). If you are extremely lucky, your dealer uses powdered sugar to cut. It is more likely that he uses whatever he can find.

Back to the crystal terminology. Many drugs, in their pure form, are not water soluble, so are of little use. React those drugs with certain kinds of acid, and you have a soluble salt of the drug, which is very useful (look at the chemical name for almost any over-the-counter drug, and it will have "hydrochloride", or "citrate" or "bromide" or something similar after the name of the active ingredient.) Benadryl, for example, is "diphenhydramine hydrochloride" or just "diphenhydramine HCl." Pure methamphetamine is a kind of gooey, oily liquid. Treat it with hydrochloric acid, and voila, it turns into a water-soluble, crystalline solid. The base materials used by street drug manufacturers are also in salt form. The process involves using lye to convert to pure form, several other chemicals to do a few substitution and addition reactions, extracting the product with a solvent (highly explosive ether works best), evaporating off the solvent, then treating the product with HCl again to get the final result. If any of these ingredients is not COMPLETELY purified out, then you get to consume them with your drug. "MMMmmmm, yummy, a little additional paint thinner in my lungs because the drug factory didn't want to use ether!"

Whether you eat it, snort it, inject it, or smoke it, you are playing russian roulette. Your luck will eventually run out and you'll get the chamber with a round in it.

Thank you DC_DEEP.

I'm a burn nurse - have been for years. Meth is some scary stuff. If you ever get a chance to see someone who takes the "cheap route" and cooks it from the shit you can get anywhere, blows himself up almost and winds up with big 2nd and 3rd degree burns - I'm talking like 50% of his body - then maybe you'll think twice about getting that high to increase your dick size. It surely wouldn't matter if you burnt your dick off in the long run - then it wouldn't be much good to anyone.

Just my two cents. Cheers :smile:
 
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goliathlives said:
YES. In the past 2 years (since the inception of my bi-monthly party and porn fest) I have grown just under 3 inches. The first 6 months or so my penis was VERY sore after the celebrations... It eventually got more accustomed to the 18-30 hours of (nearly) non-stop masturbation, edging, pulling, tugging, and kegels, and that is when the growth really started to take place. I used to be a grower, and now I hang about 8" soft on a cold day after working out.

To the comment that there would be tons of 15" addicts running around, I say this: the majority of the tweakers (all but 2, in fact) I have met and seen their endowments have been over 7". And trust me, speed makes everyone ok with whipping it out.

As for my method of choice for "hanging out with Tina"... I would say smoking (though arguably more addictive than insufflation or ingestion) is the "safest" way to partake.... It allows you a lee-way with evaporating off any residual solvents and you can burn or evaporate away most common "cuts" (MSM or methylsulfonyl-methane, rock salt, epsoms, and sugar), as well as recrystalizing what you bought to purify (yes, crystalization is one of the preferred methods of purification, second only to a solvent column).

(Yeah, I know some chemistry too)

Have a nice "day".

Crazy, crazy, crazy. Listen to the advice in this thread. Maybe I should put it this way - is there someone out there who loves you? Would they want to see you anorexic, burned, coughing up a lung because you have cancer, or dead because your heart gave out because of some stupid chemical? I'd think twice if I were you.

Cheers :smile:
 

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wi_sugargrl said:
Crazy, crazy, crazy. Listen to the advice in this thread. Maybe I should put it this way - is there someone out there who loves you? Would they want to see you anorexic, burned, coughing up a lung because you have cancer, or dead because your heart gave out because of some stupid chemical? I'd think twice if I were you.

Cheers :smile:

i have a very loving family, many friends (some tweakers, some not), i eat, sleep, and drink water on the stuff (i.e. take care of myself). i don't cook it, and even if i did, i'm not stupid enough to light a cigarette where i'm doing it (the cause of 99% of meth-lab explosions--hydrogen gas sparked by a cigarette), and i'm technically more likely to get cancer from the sun, cigarettes, or diet soda than i am from a stimulant that's less acidic than L-Butyrol (asthma inhaler).


just because most people can't handle the shit doesn't make IT bad. it means the people who end up crack thin, paranoid that the aliens are stealing their meth, and covered in scabs probably had severe latent mental issues. i mean for god's sake... who would seriously not shower for that long, or brush their teeth, or rest their bodies? (and don't tell me you cant sleep... it's b.s.) mind over matter, people. be bigger than the drug, realize it's just that--a drug, and fuckin' take care of yourselves.... a lot less would be illegal in this country if that had happened to begin with.
 

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goliathlives said:
i have a very loving family, many friends (some tweakers, some not), i eat, sleep, and drink water on the stuff (i.e. take care of myself). i don't cook it, and even if i did, i'm not stupid enough to light a cigarette where i'm doing it (the cause of 99% of meth-lab explosions--hydrogen gas sparked by a cigarette), and i'm technically more likely to get cancer from the sun, cigarettes, or diet soda than i am from a stimulant that's less acidic than L-Butyrol (asthma inhaler).


just because most people can't handle the shit doesn't make IT bad. it means the people who end up crack thin, paranoid that the aliens are stealing their meth, and covered in scabs probably had severe latent mental issues. i mean for god's sake... who would seriously not shower for that long, or brush their teeth, or rest their bodies? (and don't tell me you cant sleep... it's b.s.) mind over matter, people. be bigger than the drug, realize it's just that--a drug, and fuckin' take care of yourselves.... a lot less would be illegal in this country if that had happened to begin with.


wow goliath,are you really that stupid,you have read other personal experiences,but what..no that wont happen to you because your"not stupid" hay wake up or before long you gonna be an addict then dead!!!! but hay your not stupid?!so good luck with it all and enjoy your short life!!!!!
 

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goliathlives said:
just because most people can't handle the shit doesn't make IT bad. it means the people who end up crack thin, paranoid that the aliens are stealing their meth, and covered in scabs probably had severe latent mental issues. i mean for god's sake... who would seriously not shower for that long, or brush their teeth, or rest their bodies? (and don't tell me you cant sleep... it's b.s.) mind over matter, people. be bigger than the drug, realize it's just that--a drug, and fuckin' take care of yourselves.... a lot less would be illegal in this country if that had happened to begin with.
My experience
with meth was better than most.
That said, I still quit.

It need not kill you,
but even if it doesn't,
it still holds you back.
 
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Some people CAN be totally recreational drug users, and have it be a mostly positive experience. Most people can not. Addictive personalities are addictive personalities, no matter what the addiction. Add an addictive personality to the physical addiction of most of this stuff, and you have a recipe for s destroyed life, or multiple lives. We always think we are smarter that we actually are, until we finally discover just HOW stupid we are--if we get to live long enough to realize it. I'm not going to judge someone for how they fuck up their lives--I'm too busy fucking up my own...:rolleyes: , but don't forget, while you are "handling" your drug habit, or addiction, or whatever, you are also fucking up the lives of those around you, whether you want to admit it or not. For you to get your high, someone else has to lose something---time, money, effort, whatever. If you have absolutely nobody else in your life, and you have no moral values about how you affect those around you, I guess enjoy yourself, until someone brings you down for screwing them over. Nobody is invicible. And we all have to pay the piper eventually for any "fun" we indulge in. Make sure you are willing and able to pay the price when the bills come due...
 
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Actually, Tina or Meth, Porn, Poppers, and Viagra is the best for me anyway. The edging is incredible. Then add to that like people and it's a party. Even if there's just two is already awesome at the very least.

Hi nice community by the way.
 

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Let me tell you a little story.

I had a friend named Brent. He was one of those rare individuals with the gift of extreme intellect. A computer geek since well before computers became household items, Brent was sought out by major corporations to create solutions to their programming problems and made quite a lot of money in the process. Brent, like myself, abhorred crystal meth and the men who use it. But one day Brent met a man who was a meth user / addict, and fell in love with him during one of this guy's more sober periods. When Guy started using again, Brent tried to help steer him toward sobriety. His best efforts weren't helping, and so Brent felt the need to do something more drastic.

In order to understand the mindset of the tweaker, Brent started using meth. He'd never been addicted to any drug (including nicotine or alcohol) and he felt certain he could walk away from meth as he had done with other drugs in the past. But Brent was wrong, and in his effort to help Guy, became an addict himself. Then Guy died, and Brent tried to quit. Up til then he had snorted crystal and smoked it. And he found out that he was no match for Tina. Eventually, though he would be sober for a week or two at a time, he began slamming it (shooting up).

Brent's relationship with the real world ended there, as did the life of the Brent I came to know. He became delusional, seeing aliens peeking in his 2nd story windows at night, hearing conversations in restaurants and being convinced he was planting the conversations in the other patrons' heads (and freaking out over it), becoming horribly paranoid and believing mysterious people were out to get him. He drove out to the desert once to videotape the aliens. He brought back content that showed a dark sky and a lot of low level light distortion, but you couldn't convince him that it wasn't proof that aliens were indeed out in the sky (and on this tape).

He was unable to hold a job anymore. He holed up into his house and had most of the utilities cut off, only going out occasionally to use the neighbor's phone if they'd let him. He cut himself off from almost all of his friends. And then one day he reappeared. Brent sent out a mass email to his friends saying he was selling his house to buy a motor home so he could travel the country. Shortly thereafter his email account was cut off. And several months later this man, who once was sought out as a programming genius was found dead in his RV of an apparent cardiac arrest. He never left LA.

Crystal sucks the life out of the people who use it. It causes hallucinations. It is frightfully addictive. It causes severe malnutrition and body wasting. It causes hair loss. It causes tooth decay. It causes ruptures in the skin as the body tries in vain to eliminate the toxins. People who use it are 4-6 times more likelt to acquire HIV than those who don't. Brent suffered all these side effects, and is now dead because of it.

Is it worth using just so you can have the delusion your penis is bigger? I should hope not.
I feel for you and your friends for what you've lost.
I have never seemed to matter much to others. I used to believe that if I was a good person, I would attract good people. Life doesn't work that way. So I step off into a world of Crystal Meth and life hhas just gotten worse. Nobody has ever loved me, I don't in the World. But i keep muddling through life. And when I can't take the fact that I'm just a waste of space. I go back to using Meth, because for a short time I don't hurt, because I don't feel. Eventually I'm going to kill myself, because there's just no other way. Meth destroys everything and will even allow you to watch as it does. Life sucks and die. But Meth keeps you around so you can suffer.
 
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I feel for you and your friends for what you've lost.
I have never seemed to matter much to others. I used to believe that if I was a good person, I would attract good people. Life doesn't work that way. So I step off into a world of Crystal Meth and life hhas just gotten worse. Nobody has ever loved me, I don't in the World. But i keep muddling through life. And when I can't take the fact that I'm just a waste of space. I go back to using Meth, because for a short time I don't hurt, because I don't feel. Eventually I'm going to kill myself, because there's just no other way. Meth destroys everything and will even allow you to watch as it does. Life sucks and die. But Meth keeps you around so you can suffer.

There's more to life than what others think of you, and your sense of worth needn't depend on others (ultimately it actually can't, because we cannot control what others think of us). You can learn to appreciate yourself, to appreciate certain facets of life, and to live for the sake of what matters to you. But allowing meth to dominate your life isn't going to do you any favors (to put it mildly), if that is what you want.