To females have the uncanny ability to make a man gay?

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i write this post not to stir up controversy with the female gender or with males of any orientation, but to share my observances of a number of women i have dated recently and some very dissapointing situations I have found myself in with females lately. i consider myself "10%" gay going no further than light touching really, but almost wonder if the situations i explain below are part of the reason i am 10% gay. that is, the lack of sexual satisfaction some women provide.

my last relationship was with a 24 year old female who was very fun but also very immature. we began dating and hit it off quite well. by the third or fourth date she decided to spend the night. i began undressing her and she was fine with it. i am good with foreplay and began taking care of her. when it came her turn to reciprocate she touched me and then said that she could not do it. i respected her desicion and told her we could stop where we were at and the foreplay was just fine. but then she continued to touch, and stop, and touch, and stop, and say that she just didnt think she could do it. ok, fine i say. then she starts sucking my dick, and starts, and stops etc. needless to say i didnt get off, and dropped her off later with an incredible case of blue balls. we meet again and hook up and its the same story. eventually i learn i need to get really aroused quickly and ejaculate in 3 minutes or less or else im not going to get my end of the deal. later in the relationship we get to sex, and its the same story, i penetrate her and she decides she cant do it. finally, sick of it all, i end it. three weeks of dates and theres good chemistry, attraction, and good times, but the lack of ability to please me results in our eventual split.

previous to her was a 32 year old female who i dated for almost six weeks before we decided to hop in the sack. our first time, she took her clothes off an almost immediately put them back on. she was almost afraid of her body and what she had to offer which was ridiculous because she was beautiful. i kept explaining to her there was nothing to be afraid of and she peeled off her clothing. we began to touch and play. i went down on her and she started giggling. she asked me to stop and i said ok fine. i played with her a little bit with my hands and she was giving me a hand job but stopped before i cam. ok, no problem, lets make more progress in our relationship and try again and things will be better, right? well, wrong. the pattern continues where she does not want to take off her clothing. when we do get her clothing off and begin on foreplay, she continues to laugh and giggle. she isnt even focused on whats going on sexually. talking with her later, i learn she has never had an orgasm. she doesnt relax when shes on her back and it all makes perfect sense. i try to direct her a little bit, but its worthless. she cant focus. when she gives me head, she goes less than one minute and stops. again, i end the relationship, and move on.

my longest relationship was almost two years with a young lady who was a friend first and lover second. we began making love a month into our relationship. we did it 4-5 days a week. two months later, it was twice a week. i began to explain to her my needs and it would help temporarily but a week or two after our conversation things would be back to twice a week or less. by one year in, it was once a week. she thought everything was fine, i obviously, didnt. and it was during this relationship that i sort of realized, maybe i am 10% gay. because we were in a relationship, i felt uncomfortable actually having sex with another girl, i felt like that was cheating. but getting together with another guy and maybe switching hands while watching porn, thats not so bad right? so i hopped on craigslist one day, sent a couple emails, and just like that i was jerking off with another guy. to completion, i was completely drained. and then i zipped up, and left.

these are three examples of relationships ive been in, where, more or less, ive actually found jacking off with a man more enjoyable than some of the sex i had with women. theres a lot of other factors involved independent of me and the women involved. for one i think men are more sexual, we obviously know what spots get us off, we typically are less damaged by one night things or stuff like that. and most women i think are typically a little more emotional than men. ive also had other relationships with very healthy sex.

but when you read about the above stories, i cant help but think of a whole generation of men living nowadays with an unhealthy sex life with their female partners, and the alternative outlets we have today for our sexual experimentation by way of the internet. its such a wonderful thing that i can go out and get the satisfaction i need. with the click of my mouse, i can connect with a new friend regardless of orientation and get mutual benefit from it. its amazing that really because of the internet i have been able to explore with another man and see a different side of my sexuality than ever before. and while my preferred sexual partner will always be female, i have discovered that watching a little porn with a guy and jerking off is kinda fun.
 

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Speak for yourself, most of the guys I've ended up dating have been very vanilla whereas I've wanted to go further/do more. I always end up with the guys who have a virgin/whore complex and can't respect me once they've come on my face, or who think that if I play with their butt it means they're gay, or who won't indulge my mild kinks (road head, for instance).
 

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while i do agree i am kinkier than most i think what i am describing is nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to compatible partnership is it? i mean, sex, and oral sex and foreplay is really all i mentioned. its number of times having sex with a partner, insecurities, maturity that i seem to have been blessed with in my last few relationships. i suppose the title of my thread may be incorrect, but i find my homosexual encounters to be in a way the product of unsuccessful relationships i have with females. the internet opens up a whole new arena for sexual satisfaction that is easy and discreet and safe if screened right.
 

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It is true that men are more sexual than women. American Society has been the ultimate cockblocker where a man cannot get his sexual tension released. Prostitution is illegal in most states, women who give up sex are deemed as sluts so that makes women less receptive towards open sexual advance, and too much religion prevents advances in medical science for cures to most sexually transmitted diseases because their answer is always abstinence (like that works). Look at craigslist and you'll see in the men seeking men or women that they want sex or a cock sucking versus the women seeking men where they are seeking a platonic relationship or some of them are fake or cam-whores. It seems American women are trained not to want sex so I seek it in the porn industry or my foreign travels to South America, Europe, or Asia where they are more open to sex and believe it or not, sex is more accepted and tolerated for women. If you want sexual release, try travelling out of the USA. Or if you are statebound go to Las Vegas or become a porn actor or producer. Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in vegas.
 

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because we were in a relationship, i felt uncomfortable actually having sex with another girl, i felt like that was cheating. but getting together with another guy and maybe switching hands while watching porn, thats not so bad right?

for one i think men are more sexual, we obviously know what spots get us off, we typically are less damaged by one night things or stuff like that.

but when you read about the above stories, i cant help but think of a whole generation of men living nowadays with an unhealthy sex life with their female partners

Wow, ok. First off, no, giving/recieving a handjob from a guy IS bad. I don't understand why or how you could think that's NOT cheating. Why should the gender matter? It's a sexual act you're engaging in with someone other then your girlfriend, it's cheating, and it's wrong. Second, it's OBVIOUS you think men are more sexual. That seems to be the problem here. I find most fault with YOU, not these three girls you've told us about. Basically the problem is you want more sex, or they aren't as into the sex as you, so you bail. And I doubt many men will agree with you on much of this. For one thing, only the sex life the 32 year old offered you sounds unhealthy or abnormal. The rest most men would be able or willing to work through. I highly doubt there's a whole generation of men nowadays turning to gay sex because women won't provide them with the large amount of easy, uncomplicated, no problem sex they NEED. Your comment here is absurd.

As for your girlfriends, it sounds like the 24 year old was just VERY inexperienced. Maybe you were her first even? At the very least however she definitely didn't seem like the type that was comfortable with having sex with someone she didn't know real well. Yeah, I know she TRIED lots of things, and ended up frustrating you by quitting in the middle. But maybe all that means is that she actually cared a lot about YOUR feelings. Here's a girl that was incredibly uneasy about going all the way with a guy so soon, yet she was still willing to make attempts. I understand why you broke things off, but still, there's nothing sexually unhealthy about needing to REALLY get to know someone before you feel comfortable screwin em. Hopefully this broad grows up a bit and stops leadin dudes on, when she knows damn well that she's not the easy type.

The 32 year old does sound like a major pain. It's annoying when a girl is not willing to really let loose cuz she's self conscious, when you honestly, genuinely think she looks damn fine. Sex should be fun and enjoyable, not some weird thing a person is incredibly uncomfortable with, at least when we're talking mature adults(again, the 24 year old seems like a different story to me).

The third one though, that's YOUR fault in my book. Oh no, sex only once a week! What was her schedule like? How busy was she? Might she have had good reason to be tired, not caring to screw? Again, this one makes me suspect a lack of understanding on your part. Not to mention, sex once a week isn't THAT bad. I highly doubt many guys will agree with you that sex once a week equals an unhealthy sex life, and good luck finding women who do.

It also troubles me that you would cheat on a girl you've been with for a year(well, that you'd cheat at all), just cuz she isn't giving you enough sex. Instead of talking about things with her, you go out and find a handjob buddy. Throw away a year long relationship cuz the amount of sex dropped off a bit? Jeeze. You may want to establish from the getgo with any women you date that you will be requiring LOTS of sex throughout the relationship, and if she thinks she ever will be unable to provide it, that she better be comfortable with you getting your fill elsewhere.

Ridiculous.
 

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I completely get your point OP. It sounds like a run of bad luck, but also very similar to the gal I was married to once. At twenty-eight she had never explored her own body. Like hiding, moving away, can we really do that type stuff. I suppose some guys would interpret it as a challenge. I interpreted it as starting from less than zero.

I have often thought that when women get dowdy in their thirties and forties is when a lot of guys come out of the closet. I guess couples have to get dowdy together. If the dowdiness timeline is out of sync, you may be on to something.

Go with the handjobs for now. So much less work. Good luck in your future search mate.
 

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boohoo! those evil women made me gay!!

can i point out that YOU chose those women.
so maybe you're drawn to women who'll never satisfy you, or maybe you just fail to turn them on enough to want more, more more.
 

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umm... I doubt your attraction to MEN is the result of anything a WOMAN could do, though I could be wrong.

Sounds like you've been dating some real goofballs. Of course you sound like a bit of a goofball yourself, no offense.

Sex 5 days a week with the same chick sounds pretty excessive though. After a couple months of dating one woman, I can pretty much do sex once a month with her and I'm ok with it.

I don't get guys who can do the same sex with the same chick over and over and over and not get bored with the situation. That's like eating the same thing for dinner every night, IMHO. No matter how tasty it is in the beginning, you're sure to get sick of it, right? :?:
 

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I don't get guys who can do the same sex with the same chick over and over and over and not get bored with the situation. That's like eating the same thing for dinner every night, IMHO.
You don't get sick of jerking yourself off do you? It is like eating. It's a body appetite.
 

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ah, but I watch a new girl having sex on my computer screen each time. That's the beautiful variety that porn provides.

If I were to stand the shower and do it more or less the same way each time, yes I'd get bored.
 

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I had the poodle perm in high school. Someone said I looked like Roger Daltrey [of The Who].
i like my own hair too much, so i bought the genuine poodle.
now i can humiliate his hair to my heart's content,
and nobody laughs at me in the street.


...unless i'm walking the dog.