If you want to argue agains pure stats (as everyone here in the alternate universe of LPSG is wont to do), lets rumble. From MSNBC African-American women and where they stand - The Daily Nightly - msnbc.com I will highlight this quote: >>> Monday's installment will discuss African-American women's progress in the education field. Nearly two-thirds of African-American undergraduates are women. At black colleges, the ratio of women to men is 7 to 1. And that is leading to a disparity in the number of African-American women who go on to own their own businesses. Rehema Ellis will talk to educators, students and businesswomen about why this disparity exists.<<< SEVEN TO ONE!!!! Over all 67/33!! Plenty of black men with degrees??!! Bullshit. Call me a racist, call me anything you want but try to refute cold hard stats. Slowly but relentlessly black men are being marginalized because they are less capable with their lack of education of competing in todays economic high tech world. Demographers get excited when differences in the sexes approach 51/49, but 7/1?! 67/33? If black men don't kick into gear here quick and start getting well educated, then all we will see is more young black men incarcerated as they find it more and more difficult to make their way in an increasingly high tech world. BTW this also holds for all males as a group. Degree ratios of W59/M41 spell demographic instability. Let me piss off more folks here. Young men in America are abandoning their responsibility to make the most of themselves by not getting well educated. If you aren't well on your way to your life goal career by age 26-30, you are fucking toast for realizing your potential. Women are taking your place. Women are more persistent and goal oriented apparently and it is now showing in cold hard stats.