With JSZ permission I would like to post his PM to me, as I think it was far more concise than the vlog, or defensive as the last post of his in the locked thread.
Zombie? Would that be ok?
By all means, post away. I'll finalize this (my participation in this thread that it is) by saying this;
I never intend to offend anyone on a personal level. And my opinions and thoughts on things are as fluid as it gets when it comes to esoteric topics of discussion where lots and lots of valid view points can be established. If you've ever read something I've written and been personally hurt by it or offended by it to the level you carry some vitriol for me, I am truly and honestly sorry. I never mean for anything to go that far. I'm a fairly nice guy and as a Libra I like peace and harmony far more than I enjoy the alternatives.
With love,
JSZ
So I have the OP of the PM's persmision to post said PM here.
Just wanted to show that I was not violating trust, TOS, or any other thing that may be lobbed my way like an over-ripe stinky diaper.
JustSomeZombie said:
Good day,
I think you were there in that Bi-Ain't a Lie thread a few weeks ago, yeah? Man alive, I would never have wandered into that hornets nest if I'd known what I had to say was going to be ingested in the fashion it was. Truthfully, that's one of those things I don't really have an opinion on until I decided to write about it or am forced to talk about it. At all other points along the way it is as irrelevant an opinion for me personally to have as an opinion on the capital gains tax. So... there's that, that's where this business with Dragon started. It should never have gotten that far and I should have known when to exit stage left (but I didn't.)
Anyway, as you no doubt know, I was in stern disapproval of the banning of VinylBoy. I really liked him even though he didn't know me (we never got a chance to talk really.) I've been on a sort of rampage about it ever since it happened, to no avail. The Political forum is basically the only place I post regularly. Well, as a last ditch effort, I decided the next time someone came in said something wildly offensive (or that could be construed as wildly offensive) I would demand to know if it was okay. I would demand to know why that was okay and the things VinylBoy said wasn't okay.
So I've been waiting for a few weeks for it to happen. And... it wasn't happening. So when I saw Dragon post, I decided I would respond. It worked out because I so happened to think the contribution on that subject was bunk (and I do.) I said so in a way that was slightly argumentative but topical and in no way against the rules just to cover my own ass. Unfortunately, she walked right into it with guns ablazin'.
She gave me exactly what I needed- something to cite as evidence of someone getting away with something that Vinyl couldn't/didn't. "God damned stupid" and "strident little runt" in an off topic reply? Perfect. And for a while they didn't act. They didn't do anything. I had to call attention to it in an open post before anything happened and then someone PM'd me and I assumed that would be the end of it. That she'd get one of those heads-up (which, lets face it, was earned... you can't attack people like that, even I know that.)
But they banned her... for two weeks. That seems pretty harsh and reactionary. If it really was just that incident, they're appeasing a new member who is relatively unknown and might not be here next month for a veteran? It just doesn't make sense... and it certainly wasn't what I had in mind. And even though she really doesn't like me I'm going to write the moderating staff and appeal this (or at least my part in it) because this didn't do anybody any good.
So my favor? Pass that along for me. (You said in that thread you could contact her outside the site, yes?) Tell her the strident little runt thinks a two week ban is BS too and will put his strident little fingers to work in her advocacy. And tell her... I apologize if I offended her. That was never my goal. I would really appreciate it. Thanks for your time. I've no doubt we'll see one another out there some time soon.
JSZ
Now I of course disagree with his opinion that she should have received a heads up for the name calling (if she had persisted over weeks and he had put her on ignore, fine then, but whatever)
So his saying she deserved it (a heads up) is his opinion alone (or well, who ever else agrees with that)
Now, should he have made a case about it, in an attempt to prove his point with VB? Meh, the smart answer would be "No! Of course not!" But i have done likewise when i see a perceived injustice, or favoritism, or misuse of power. Again note perceived. Sometimes it's not such. Or might not be such. Sometimes, as MickeyLee would say, "we just have bad introwebz days, and need to log off, cool down, and rub one out."
Sage advice, that. Miss Lee gives much wisdom to us.
I have done the whole pointing out things. i have become,I have the feeling, a not to fond feeling person with some of the Mod teams. Not hated, but not fuzzy feelings towards me. Maybe I am wrong, but I have a sneaky suspicion. And that's fine.
I did lose a friendship over one incident where I pointed out what i felt was a BS blatant misuse of power and popularity, equally condemning (I thought at least) the OP as well as the people of the forum for allowing it. Oh well, I felt it needed to be said. We are still fond of each other, so there is that.